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Re: Dengan cc yg sama mengapa torsi dan power bisa beda?

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andy1800 wrote:^ mari kita pakai prosedur "troubleshooting" ala londo, yaitu dari basic dulu: ada kemungkinan juga terjadi kesesatan tulis, meskipun website resmi....cukup sering jg begitu, apalagi di indonesia. ..entah disengaja atau cm typo. :mrgreen:

jd, perlu sangat diyakinkan dulu, benar2 specs nya itu benar...soalnya, kalau statement specnya udah keliru dari awal, kasian laah yg menganalisisnya...titik pijak awal yg tidak tepat (dan diasumsikan 100% benar), jd membuat tiada tepat pula runutan logika analisisnya kan ? :mrgreen:

yg paling mantap (utk dianalisis) ttg urusan spec dari torsi dan power ini, ya sebisa mgkin yg berbentuk grafik torque-power itu...semoga ada yg bisa mendptkannya.
nah lho....

siapa yg sudah test dyno kedua species ini (dalam kondisi standard tentunya)? :mrgreen:
musti ditunjukkan kesini grafik reportnya biar tambah mantap...

bukan begitu, meneer?

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Bukankah torsi lebih besar di tokinov diesel A/T daripada M/T karena beda setting ECU sudah menjadi rahasia umum? :e-think:
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imsus2c wrote:
andy1800 wrote:^ mari kita pakai prosedur "troubleshooting" ala londo, yaitu dari basic dulu: ada kemungkinan juga terjadi kesesatan tulis, meskipun website resmi....cukup sering jg begitu, apalagi di indonesia. ..entah disengaja atau cm typo. :mrgreen:

jd, perlu sangat diyakinkan dulu, benar2 specs nya itu benar...soalnya, kalau statement specnya udah keliru dari awal, kasian laah yg menganalisisnya...titik pijak awal yg tidak tepat (dan diasumsikan 100% benar), jd membuat tiada tepat pula runutan logika analisisnya kan ? :mrgreen:

yg paling mantap (utk dianalisis) ttg urusan spec dari torsi dan power ini, ya sebisa mgkin yg berbentuk grafik torque-power itu...semoga ada yg bisa mendptkannya.
nah lho....

siapa yg sudah test dyno kedua species ini (dalam kondisi standard tentunya)? :mrgreen:
musti ditunjukkan kesini grafik reportnya biar tambah mantap...

bukan begitu, meneer?

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hehee, yoi meneer....dynometer on wheel mmg lbh menggambarkan (utk diproyeksikan ke arah) realitas lapangan..... tp maksud ik, grafik yg (keluaran) dari pabrik gitu looh..itu jg akan udah cukup utk kita pakai sbg titik pijak analisis ...
dan mmg dalm kasus tsb, justru yg bisa diperbandingkan adalah engine nya only.... dynometer on engine, sblm ada pengaruh2 of the drivetrain.

jadi sohib-sohib....tolonglah kami, berburulah grafik torque-power yg kami maksudkan itu... :mrgreen:
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esh wrote:Bukankah torsi lebih besar di tokinov diesel A/T daripada M/T karena beda setting ECU sudah menjadi rahasia umum? :e-think:
ooo.... :frm_salut:
jd M/T nya pun akan mampu kita "maximize" utk menjadi spt performansi/spec-nya mesin A/T dong ya ?....dg remapping.
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andy1800 wrote:
esh wrote:Bukankah torsi lebih besar di tokinov diesel A/T daripada M/T karena beda setting ECU sudah menjadi rahasia umum? :e-think:
ooo.... :frm_salut:
jd M/T nya pun akan mampu kita "maximize" utk menjadi spt performansi/spec-nya mesin A/T dong ya ?....dg remapping.
...atau pasang modul tambahan :D
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imsus2c wrote:
andy1800 wrote:
esh wrote:Bukankah torsi lebih besar di tokinov diesel A/T daripada M/T karena beda setting ECU sudah menjadi rahasia umum? :e-think:
ooo.... :frm_salut:
jd M/T nya pun akan mampu kita "maximize" utk menjadi spt performansi/spec-nya mesin A/T dong ya ?....dg remapping.
...atau pasang modul tambahan :D
atau swap engine... :upss:
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Mumpung bahas diesel, sekalian tanya Everest.
Kl menurut master2 bagusan mana antara everest non tdci& Fortuner tahun yg sama 2004 & minta tolong riview untuk Everest nya. Blom pernah coba neeh jangan2 berisik di interiornya sama kayak Panther wkwkwkwk
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neo300400 wrote:Mumpung bahas diesel, sekalian tanya Everest.
Kl menurut master2 bagusan mana antara everest non tdci& Fortuner tahun yg sama 2004 & minta tolong riview untuk Everest nya. Blom pernah coba neeh jangan2 berisik di interiornya sama kayak Panther wkwkwkwk
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ak4ng wrote:
neo300400 wrote:Mumpung bahas diesel, sekalian tanya Everest.
Kl menurut master2 bagusan mana antara everest non tdci& Fortuner tahun yg sama 2004 & minta tolong riview untuk Everest nya. Blom pernah coba neeh jangan2 berisik di interiornya sama kayak Panther wkwkwkwk
everest bro!!!!!!
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namanya juga boyota for-tune-er..... :ngacir:
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nah kang kan ente di ksh tantangan ma oom maskopat drag race SLny ma si irit nan kenchang kan???hayooo gmn??? :upss:
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henz155 wrote:nah kang kan ente di ksh tantangan ma oom maskopat drag race SLny ma si irit nan kenchang kan???hayooo gmn??? :upss:
aaaahh... habanja nan kencang cuman cerita dongeng pengantar bobok doang.... :big_weee:
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maskopat wrote:
henz155 wrote:nah kang kan ente di ksh tantangan ma oom maskopat drag race SLny ma si irit nan kenchang kan???hayooo gmn??? :upss:
aaaahh... habanja nan kencang cuman cerita dongeng pengantar bobok doang.... :big_weee:
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oom ane maw nanya klo torsi gede bearti tarikan awal mbl itu bgs y???klo HP gede bearti putaran atasny??bnr kaga?? :ungg: :ungg:
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henz155 wrote:
maskopat wrote:
henz155 wrote:nah kang kan ente di ksh tantangan ma oom maskopat drag race SLny ma si irit nan kenchang kan???hayooo gmn??? :upss:
aaaahh... habanja nan kencang cuman cerita dongeng pengantar bobok doang.... :big_weee:
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oom ane maw nanya klo torsi gede bearti tarikan awal mbl itu bgs y???klo HP gede bearti putaran atasny??bnr kaga?? :ungg: :ungg:
torsi gede tarikan awal emang lebih enak om... torsi di sini bukan hanya output torsi dari mesin, tapi ada faktor gear ratio
kalo ngomong tarikan dan top speed, harus memperhatikan gear ratio dan bobot juga om... :big_peace:
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owww.bearti dr ratio klo panjang y sama z y klo torsi gede,soalny T31 awalny berat apa lg dr 0,
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henz155 wrote:owww.bearti dr ratio klo panjang y sama z y klo torsi gede,soalny T31 awalny berat apa lg dr 0,
kemungkinan ratio gear 1 nya agak halus om... bisa jadi torsi di putaran 1000-1500 RPM relatif kecil om..
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mungkin oom.tp wkt ane paksain itu gigik 1 ampe 80km/hr jd rasa aneini yg jd berat tarikan awalny,kecuali di ksh mesin v12 kyk lamborgihini kali y???hahhaha
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knp kang kok :big_smoking: ???maw tantangin SL om kopat??? :upss:
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Wah....gigi 1 sampe 80kph henz?
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maskopat wrote:
henz155 wrote:
maskopat wrote:
aaaahh... habanja nan kencang cuman cerita dongeng pengantar bobok doang.... :big_weee:
:wkkk: :wkkk: :wkkk: :wkkk:




oom ane maw nanya klo torsi gede bearti tarikan awal mbl itu bgs y???klo HP gede bearti putaran atasny??bnr kaga?? :ungg: :ungg:
torsi gede tarikan awal emang lebih enak om... torsi di sini bukan hanya output torsi dari mesin, tapi ada faktor gear ratio
kalo ngomong tarikan dan top speed, harus memperhatikan gear ratio dan bobot juga om... :big_peace:
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ZombiEE wrote:Wah....gigi 1 sampe 80kph henz?
iya jem.gigi2 klo g salah 100kph klo 3 120kph jom.
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