Toyota sedang mengalami ujian berat - PART 01

[toyotaman]

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Toyota Giving Drivers "False Reassurances" Congressman Says
60+ Drivers Tell NHTSA Cars Keep Surging Out of Control After Being Fixed

By BRIAN ROSS, JOSEPH RHEE, ANGELA M. HILL and MEGAN CHUCHMACH
Mar. 4, 2010

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said tonight is has received more than 60 complaints from Toyota drivers whose vehicles are still experiencing sudden unintended acceleration, even though the cars have already been recalled and supposedly fixed.


Some drivers say the company's recall fix has not solved accelerator problem."Officials are contacting each and every consumer to learn more about what they say is happening," NHTSA said in a statement.


The federal safety agency has also "asked Toyota to provide information about any complaints it has received from customers," NHTSA said. "If it appears that a remedy provided by Toyota is not addressing the problem it was intended to fix, NHTSA has the authority to order Toyota to provide a different solution."


The chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee said today that Toyota still hasn't proved its giant recall is solving potentially fatal safety problems.


"They are false reassurances that people are getting from Toyota if, after the recall, after their car is supposed to be fixed, there is still this problem of sudden acceleration," Rep. Henry Waxman, D-C.A., told ABC News.


In Whitesville, Kentucky, Toyota driver Carolyn Kimbrell said her 2006 Toyota Avalon continues to surge unexpectedly, even after the dealer made sure it complied with the accelerator pedal recall.


"It's a pretty scary feeling when you're trying to stop your car and it won't stop," Kimbrell said.


Waxman said Toyota still hasn't proved that the sudden acceleration problems are not caused by an electronic glitch with its vehicles.


"Cars are being recalled to be fixed and they're not being fixed," said Waxman. "That means that they haven't found out why this problem is occurring. And they insist that it's not the electronics. But they haven't shown us the evidence upon which they base their conclusion."


The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says it has received more than 15 similar post-recall complaints from Toyota owners in the last week.


Among the complaints is a driver who said that even though her 2009 Toyota Matrix had its brakes and gas pedal serviced Feb. 10, the car was still uncontrollable Feb. 26.


"I was driving about 5 MPH in a parking area with my son," the woman wrote to NHTSA. "I put my foot on the brake and I felt the car push forward… My son said "It's doing it again Mom!"


A 2008 Toyota Avalon owner said the car was backing out of a driveway a few days after being serviced "when it accelerated on its own and the car did about 3 loops around the garage area of the home causing damage to the car, benches, tree, bushes, lamp post, etc."


Another complaint says a 2010 Toyota Camry surged suddenly just five days after having its recall work done.


The new post-recall complaints were first noted in a report by Safety Research & Strategies (SRS), a private research firm based in Rehoboth, Mass.


According to SRS, "Toyota executives are confident that their recalls will end the SUA complaints - they've said that into every microphone that's been put in front of them. Some consumers who have taken their recalled vehicles in for the fix have a different story."


In response to the new complaints, Toyota said it has "found no evidence in these investigations of a failure of either vehicle electronics or of the recent remedies that Toyota has announced for floor mat entrapment and sticking accelerator pedals."


As soon as we received these new reports, our new on-site inspection "SWAT team" moved quickly to investigate them," the Toyota statement continues. "We have submitted the results of this initial review to NHTSA. Though these reports involve a tiny fraction of the more than one million vehicles our dealers have repaired to date, we take them extremely seriously."


Former ABC News producer Stewart Stogel said the newly-installed failsafe system, which cuts off power when the brake is pressed, in his 2009 Toyota Camry is not working at moderate speed.


Even though a Toyota dealer performed all the recall procedures, "the car has lurched out of control on at least one occasion since the fix," Stogel said.

[doq]

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[FortunerMan]

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayTo ... 747&page=1

Toyota Giving Drivers "False Reassurances" Congressman Says
60+ Drivers Tell NHTSA Cars Keep Surging Out of Control After Being Fixed

By BRIAN ROSS, JOSEPH RHEE, ANGELA M. HILL and MEGAN CHUCHMACH
Mar. 4, 2010

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said tonight is has received more than 60 complaints from Toyota drivers whose vehicles are still experiencing sudden unintended acceleration, even though the cars have already been recalled and supposedly fixed.


Some drivers say the company's recall fix has not solved accelerator problem."Officials are contacting each and every consumer to learn more about what they say is happening," NHTSA said in a statement.


The federal safety agency has also "asked Toyota to provide information about any complaints it has received from customers," NHTSA said. "If it appears that a remedy provided by Toyota is not addressing the problem it was intended to fix, NHTSA has the authority to order Toyota to provide a different solution."

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

ABC admits tinkering with Toyota story

NEW YORK, March 13 (AP) - (Kyodo)—ABC News has acknowledged it used visuals in its story on sudden acceleration problems with Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles that did not show what was actually happening, U.S. media reported.

The network's Feb. 22 story illustrated a report by David Gilbert, a Southern Illinois University professor who suggested that a design flaw in Toyotas might trigger a short circuit that would go undetected by the car's computer system, causing sudden unintended acceleration.

ABC correspondent Brian Ross's report showed him driving a Toyota with Gilbert that was rigged to quickly accelerate. Even though he knew it was coming, Ross said the incident left him shaken, and that he had a hard time getting the car to come to a stop, U.S. media said.

Credibility level of zero

[roadtrain99]

Threadnya mau ditutup?

[FortunerMan]

om risol, jadi gimana nih lanjutan dari si tole? udah kelar recall berjuta2 mobilnya? trus, apa bener dugaan mobil2 belasan tahun lalu juga bermasalah?

Kalo yg ane baca sih, toyota udah recall 1.7 juta mobilnya sampe sekarang, yg pasti sih belom kelar karena mereka masih terima recall kalo ada customer yg dateng.

Kalo ttg mobil toyota jadul yg bermasalah ya ane engga tau pasti. Tapi yg pasti ane udah pernah punya mobil2 jadul toyota dan semuanya itu engga ada yg nyelonong sendiri hehehe, malah sebaliknya, yg ane rasain mobil2 toyota yg pernah ane punya semuanya top reliabilitynya......bunyi2an pun kaga ada tuh, juga kenyaman yg diatas rata2 mobil2 sekelasnya.

TAPI yg seperti ane bilang kemaren2 bahwa banyak banget orang2 yg mao ambil kesempatan dalam kesempitan, jadilah setiap hari ada aja yg komplain toyotanya nyelonong sendiri, TERMASUK produk2 toyota yg tidak di identified sbg produk defect.

Orang2 spt itu memang banyak banget sekarang, tapi orang2 spt ane (yg udah ngerasain atoyot) juga gak kalah banyak, sehingga sales toyota tidak seanjlok yg dibayangkan orang.

Kata "dibayangkan" kadang bisa diganti dengan "diinginkan"...

Setuju, yg udah ngerasain Toyota reliability gak kalah banyaknya, malah berlipat-lipat-pat ganda banyaknya.
Reputasi tidak datang dalam sekejap, tidak juga hilang sekejap

[ZombiEE]

lanjoottt

[FortunerMan]

Situasi dr Jepun...

Toyota: What, Me Worry?

March 29, 2010 - If you, dear reader, had expected (or, perish the thought, hoped) that SUA hype and rapid fire recalls would bring Toyota down, then stop reading immediately. What follows will not be good for your circulatory system.

Ok, you have been duly warned: The Nikkei reports that Toyota’s domestic output in Japan rose 119.6 percent on the year to 309,933 units in February, up for the fourth straight month. Toyota’s exports increased 106.9 percent to 150,232 units, the second straight monthly improvement. Sales in Japan grew 49.9 percent from the previous year to 149,604 units last month, up for the seventh month in a row. Toyota’s overseas output was likewise unimpressed by the avalanche of auto-accelerating autos. It improved 58.8 percent to 345,247 units, marking the seventh consecutive month of growth.

man.tab. Maap lupa SOURCE nye...edit ye.. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-what-me-worry/

[Dogies]

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[Abu2]

disini gunung disana gunung
ditengah tengah hutan cemara
diriku bingung, entah yang lain bingung
kapan ini menjadi part dua..........

[toyotaman]

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[Captivated]

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LANJUTGAN !

[Captivated]

SS itu cuma program pemerintah (engga ada hub nya dengan pension nya GM)
Semua US citizens dan permanent residents yg memenuhi kewajibannya, bisa claim SS di masa tuanya (karena ini program pemerintah), sedangkan kalo pension itu cuma kebijakan dari perusahaan tempat kita bekerja aja, dan sekarang2 ini udah jarang banget profit orinted company yg kasi pension ke karyawannya.

Sistem SS: Kita bayar pajak SS setiap kita gajian, lalu setelah kita pensiun kita bisa dapet uang SS tsb per bulan sampe kita modar , yg besarnya tergantung dari:
1. berapa lama kita kerja: makin sebentar kita kerja, makin dikit kita bisa claim di hari tua (Ya karena kita bayar pajaknya jg dikit sih hehehe)
2. Pada umur berapa kita claim tu SS: makin tua kita claim SS, makin gede jumlah per bulannya (misal: u/ orang yg sama2 kerja selama 30 tahun, kalo dia mulai claim SS pada usia 60 tahun, dia bakaln dapet lebih dikit perbulannya dibanding kalo dia claim Ss pada waktu dia 65 tahun, gitu lah kira2.......)

Nah balik lagi ke GM, GM itu bukan hanya kasi pension ke karyawannya, tapi juga kasi health benefit buat manula-nya. Bayangin aja, semua manula di US itu entitle buat program "medicare" alias gratis dari pemerintah, eehh sama si GM para seniornya bukan disuruh masuk ke medicare aja, malahan dibyarin dari kantong sendiri, ya jebol lah.....
Kemaren2 lebih gila lagi, karena terikat kontrak, semua karyawan union yg di rumahkan, tetep dibayar gajinya sebesar 95%

Tapi perlu diingat semua itu bukan karena GM baik hati (gak ada profit oriented company yg baik hati sampe mao rugi), tapi karena kontrak yg dibuat dengan union (UAW) sejak jaman jadul. Jaman dulu detroit masih menguasai 80% domestik market, jadi engga masalah buat mereka untuk setuju dengan kontrak yg absurd spt itu.
Nah pas jaman sekarang kompetisi makin ketat ya susah lah bersaing dengan cost yg gede spt itu.

thx
brarti mirip2 lah ama di indo, ada jamsostek (oleh pemerintah) n ada asuransi hari tua/pensiun (oleh perusahaan)

hehehe... pantas Ford jauh2 hari udh mutusin kontrak gendenk kyk gini (GM n Chrysler terlambat... oh kasian dikau)
masa kontrak begini mau dipertahankan di jaman persaingan gila spt skrg?

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Betul, cuman angka2 (ID) aja di MAKE & MODEL, mesti cari table "kunci" nya ...tapi yg jelas ADA datanya, all the way to 1975 (waktu FARS di mulai).

bisa bantu tunjukin "tabel kuncinya" ?

thx

[Captivated]

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turut berduka cita sedalam-dalamnya buat korban & keluarga

jgn sampe terulang lagi

[buatandi]

om" sama mod" smua newbie mau saran ini thread kayakny kurang oot jadi ny pada ga enak omongan wakakkakakka


om noken as saatt ny beroperasii

abseeennnnnnn 1

ane mahh uda beraksi dari kmaren2 di tret sebelah brooo....

btw ini mesin absen ada brapa sehhh.... koq banyak amat....

aihhh thread detailing aj di obok"

[mandala1]

Gak ada yg berantem, skr pada OOT!!! Haiyaaa.....

[toyotaman]

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-1963 ... auto-sales


Toyota offers strong incentives during March 2010 after dramatic drop in auto sales

March 2, 4:35

Toyota announced Monday that for the month of March 2010 they will offer aggressive incentives on the sale of certain Toyota models. The incentives include 0% interest for 60 months, free maintenance for two years, and rebates.


After several massive recalls over the past few months, Toyota has had a dramatic drop in sales, and as a result the incentives are now being offered.


According to Reuters:

Toyota will offer zero-percent financing for 60 months on some 2010 model year vehicles, including its most popular Camry and Corolla sedans and other vehicles involved in safety recalls.


Returning Toyota customers will also receive a complimentary two-year "Toyota Auto Care Premium Package" that includes oil changes and other maintenance services, the source said. Cash rebates ranging from $500 to $3,000 will also be offered depending on vehicles.


Toyota sales fell 47% from December to January 2010 after the recall announcment. Toyota sales fell 16% from one year ago in January, according to Edmonds.com. Toyota was estimated to drop 12% year-over-year. The drop in sales came immediately after Toyota announced a recall in early January.


CNN reported that 19 people have died from problems with the Toyota floor mat and gas pedal problems. In January, Toyota recalled three million Toyota vehicles because the gas pedal problems caused sudden, uncontrolled acceleration that may end in a crash.


Toyota announced several weeks ago that the dealerships are ready to begin fixing the recalled vehicles, for more information on that story, click here.


The problems with Toyota and the recalls over the past few months creates an opportunity for other dealerships. "Every dog has his day," said Jerry Seiner who owns several General Motors dealerships in Salt Lake City. "Maybe they'll take a second look at us instead of Toyota...when Toyota stumbles it's our opportunity."

[maskopat]

Gak ada yg berantem, skr pada OOT!!! Haiyaaa.....

wakakakaka.... enakan berantem sih... tapi jangan personal attack...

btw nih om dal, kayaknya lebih oke mitsu yah.... soalnya mitsu bisa bikin ente beli mobil... kalo toyota, kayaknya gak bisa bikin ente beli mobil deh... bener gak om???

[FortunerMan]

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-1963 ... auto-sales


Toyota offers strong incentives during March 2010 after dramatic drop in auto sales

March 2, 4:35

Toyota announced Monday that for the month of March 2010 they will offer aggressive incentives on the sale of certain Toyota models. The incentives include 0% interest for 60 months, free maintenance for two years, and rebates.


After several massive recalls over the past few months, Toyota has had a dramatic drop in sales, and as a result the incentives are now being offered.

Telat banget sih toyotaman

Party Time At Toyota: March Sales Way Up

While others have a bit prematurely called for a Toyota death-watch, we’ve been following the story of comeback kid Toyota for a while. In Japan, ToMoCo’s production, domestic sales, and exports are solidly up. In the U.S.A., where Toyota had taken the biggest recall-pummeling, Edmunds predicted a 37.1 percent rise over March 2009. Looks like their crystal ball is in fine shape. Expect Toyota to surprise when March numbers come out.

Jim Lentz, president of Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A., told Automotive News [sub] that Toyota expects March sales to be up 30 to 35 percent over year-ago figures, outpacing industry gains. As far as industry gains go, Edmunds expects those to be 31 percent, we’ll hear a big sigh of relief when March numbers will be announced in a few days.

[FortunerMan]

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turut berduka cita sedalam-dalamnya buat korban & keluarga

jgn sampe terulang lagi

Untungnya udah di recall mobilnya, jangan kaya GM gak di recall mobil udah bunuh 725 orang Ntar bangkrut lagi, kaya GM

[mandala1]

wakakakaka.... enakan berantem sih... tapi jangan personal attack...

btw nih om dal, kayaknya lebih oke mitsu yah.... soalnya mitsu bisa bikin ente beli mobil... kalo toyota, kayaknya gak bisa bikin ente beli mobil deh... bener gak om???

Huuusssh.....kalo itu laen lagi ceritanya....
(jgn bilang2 yah....) *sambil bisik2....

[Captivated]

Untungnya udah di recall mobilnya, jangan kaya GM gak di recall mobil udah bunuh 725 orang Ntar bangkrut lagi, kaya GM

apa coba bawa2 GM? ane minta tabel kunci, ini malah oot

LAME?
CHILDISH?

[FortunerMan]

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayTo ... as-8978778

turut berduka cita sedalam-dalamnya buat korban & keluarga

jgn sampe terulang lagi

Untungnya udah di recall mobilnya, jangan kaya GM gak di recall mobil udah bunuh 725 orang Ntar bangkrut lagi, kaya GM

Nggak OOT kok, lessons learned from other automakers - jangan gak direcall mobilnya kaya GM...ntar reputasi rusak, trus bangkrut deh

[Captivated]

oh jd Toyota itu berguru ama GM yak? baru tau ane

busway, mana tabel kuncinya?

[FortunerMan]

Bukan...liat2 pengalaman perusahaan malang

Tabel kunci? ya cari sendiri lah Ane cuman mau tau ada nggak datanya, dan dari tahun berapa. Soalnya ADA (bukan ente) yg bilang datanya gak ada, dan cuman dr thn 2000 :p. Lagian tuh dah diajarin ama Risol cara liatnya dr VIN number. Kurang jelas kah?