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immobilizer, maling proof kah?

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just curious, di negeri ini, immobilizer OEM yg katanya sakti mandraguna ini udah ada yg kecolongan belum ya?
mohon share ya yang tau infonya ato malah udah pengalaman pribadi...hehehe
buat nambah2 pengetahuan juga, soalnya kendaraan suka bobo di luar...
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krn ane pribadi blm pernah denger berita yg meyakinkan ttg terjadi kecolongan immob yg dlm arti pake metoda melumpuhkan sistem immob, maka sejauh ini ane menyimpulkan/menganggapnya aman.
klopun ada maling yg ingin menspesialisasikan diri nyolong mobil yg berimmob, tentulah lbh mudah ditelusuri. krn maling kelas begitu tentulah individu2 yg berbekal intelektual memadai. dr database maling, difilter aja dg pertanyaan: ada brp byk sih maling fisik yg cukup intelek?

masalh keamanan kendaraan bobo di luar tu yg lbh menglhawatirkan adlh maling vandal as usual: pecah kaca, ambil sesuatu yg ada dlm mobil. yeah manusia tempatnya lupa, siapa tau sekali waktu kita kelupaan ninggalin tas/laptop/gadget di dlm mobil.

tp klo dah diasuransikan full coverage, ya tenang aja. dicover segadget2nya.
klo utk unit mobilnya mau lbh yakin aman lg. dlm arti nambah ketenangan, bs jg ditambah gps tracker.

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Kalau immob yang dari pabrik, biasanya tidak bisa dioprek, karena menjadi syarat ECU berfungsi
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asudarsono wrote:Kalau immob yang dari pabrik, biasanya tidak bisa dioprek, karena menjadi syarat ECU berfungsi
Termasuk immob di skuter piaggio baru ya om?
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asudarsono wrote:Kalau immob yang dari pabrik, biasanya tidak bisa dioprek, karena menjadi syarat ECU berfungsi
jadi dia receivernya built in ke ECU ya om, ga bisa di bypass ala alarm gt?
kalo gt knp ga brand2 sejuta umat aplikasi ini ya, soalnya mobil2 kelas entry level juga udah banyak make immob ini sbg OEM nya...
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biar klu hilang nanti beli lagi..... :ngacir:
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Sepeda motor Eropa yang fuel injection rata2 sudah pakai immobilizer.

Sepeda motor Piaggio karburator seperti Zip belum pakai immobilizer. Untuk Piaggio yang berimmobilizer, code kuncinya malah tidak disimpan di pabriknya. Jadi kalau mau programkan kunci, perlu mengambil kode yang hanya ada di master key yang di tangan pemiliknya. Kalau master keynya hilang ya selamatlah anda, punya pajangan berbentuk sepeda motor.

Hehehehe, just kidding, kalau master keynya hilang tinggal beli ECU baru.

Kalau immobilizer mobil Jepang, aku gak tahu om.

Ada sih cara yg pasti bisa untuk mengalahkan immobilizer, tapi gak bisa disebut di sini. Itu pun, biayanya bisa lebih mahal dari mobilnya dan waktu opreknya bisa bulanan.
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Maaf numpang nimbrung nanya, immobilizer bisa nambah sendiri ga sih?
Mobil yg diincer ga ada immobilizernya soalnya, dan jafi ragu gara2 fitur ini
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kadang immobilizer ini nyusahin juga.. W204 tahun 2009 punya bos gue tiba2 ga mau idup.. bawa ke beres..... kena 14 juta buat ganti modul immobilizernya.....
tp mobil immobilizer dari factory biasanya jg susah buat di bypass. klo aftermarket masih ada kemungkinan di bypass sama maling.. (kecuali alarm super canggih, dengan installasi yg canggih juga tentunya).

klo diluar negri sih premi asuransi bisa berkurang kalau pakai alarm canggih atau mobil ada immobizernya.. klo disini sepertinya sama aja yak mau pake alarm canggih sama ngga......
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Ternyata Immobilizer masih rawan pencurian juga..

http://oto.detik.com/read/2013/11/13/05 ... d771104bcj :big_dunno: :mky_03:
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klo sekalian nyuri kuncinya ya jelas lah....
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narji wrote:Ternyata Immobilizer masih rawan pencurian juga..

http://oto.detik.com/read/2013/11/13/05 ... d771104bcj :big_dunno: :mky_03:
ya kalo kuncinya yang dicuri sih itu no comment :big_think:
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asudarsono wrote: Ada sih cara yg pasti bisa untuk mengalahkan immobilizer, tapi gak bisa disebut di sini. Itu pun, biayanya bisa lebih mahal dari mobilnya dan waktu opreknya bisa bulanan.
gak sampe semahal mobilnya, tapi teknologinya gak semua punya.. dan pastinya immo bawaan pabrik juga diinovasi terus sistemnya.
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Rausya wrote:Maaf numpang nimbrung nanya, immobilizer bisa nambah sendiri ga sih?
Mobil yg diincer ga ada immobilizernya soalnya, dan jafi ragu gara2 fitur ini
kayaknya kalau yang canggih juga ada immonya juga, tapi key ke immo nya gak di ECU tapi di modul bawaan alarmnya -cmiiw..
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Rausya wrote:
narji wrote:Ternyata Immobilizer masih rawan pencurian juga..

http://oto.detik.com/read/2013/11/13/05 ... d771104bcj :big_dunno: :mky_03:
ya kalo kuncinya yang dicuri sih itu no comment :big_think:
Kalau mau lebih aman, tambahi modul untuk input password/pin, atau sekalian sidik jari.
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sirahngelu wrote: Kalau mau lebih aman, tambahi modul untuk input password/pin, atau sekalian sidik jari.
:mky_01:
ia nih biometric sekarang jadi banyak yang jual kalau di sebrang sono, kenapa ya?

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Jadi kesimpulannya sejauh ini maling blum sanggup bobol mobil berimmob ya?
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y_anjasrana wrote:Jadi kesimpulannya sejauh ini maling blum sanggup bobol mobil berimmob ya?
belum,
* simpan baik2 kunci serepnya jangan sampai tercuri atau ditukar dengan kunci serep gadungan..
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immobilizer masalahnya hanya di drivernya itu. Banyak yg waktu nyetir ditaro dideket console box dsb dan kadang pas keluar, mereka lupa ninggalin kuncinya. Itu yg bahaya sih baisanya.
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Itu sih kecerobohan drivernya om montirangin yg mobilnya udh dilengkapi Start/Stop Engine,kalo msh pakai kunci buat stater mobil gk ada cerita ditaro di dashboard,lupa ninggalin kunci...
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bangrosi wrote:Itu sih kecerobohan drivernya om montirangin yg mobilnya udh dilengkapi Start/Stop Engine,kalo msh pakai kunci buat stater mobil gk ada cerita ditaro di dashboard,lupa ninggalin kunci...
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Lihat aja di yt

Kunci immobilizer bisa diganti
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Err, pernah ditawarin Captiva curian...well...entah bisa dapet kunci, atau memang immobilizernya bisa dikutik :ungg:
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waduh..barang curian mah mending kaga..banyak jaman skrg mental aparat yg sengaja..
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g1ng2 wrote:
sirahngelu wrote: Kalau mau lebih aman, tambahi modul untuk input password/pin, atau sekalian sidik jari.
:mky_01:
ia nih biometric sekarang jadi banyak yang jual kalau di sebrang sono, kenapa ya?

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cukup immobilelizer aja deh, ditodong pistol antara kasih kunci atau lempar ke sungai / genteng rumah orang :big_slap: