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ttg Toyota... TAM, Toyota Motor Corp & afiliasinya
unek2 tu tidak baik kalau dipendam...
kekaguman jg adlh baik jika dikemukakan...
silakan
kekaguman jg adlh baik jika dikemukakan...
silakan
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Berita ini bener gak ya bro....kok ada main tepu segala....
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2012/09 ... rnya.di.AS
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2012/09 ... rnya.di.AS
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nah loh !!
*menunggu konfirmasi lanjutan

*menunggu konfirmasi lanjutan
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ane ngumpet aja ah di atas pohon kelapa sambil makan kelapa muda... slurrrppp...
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Pak Sudarsono N kang Fortunerman biasanya lebih duluan tahu berita ginian bener gaknyaDeasegara wrote:Berita ini bener gak ya bro....kok ada main tepu segala....
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2012/09 ... rnya.di.AS

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Ane sependapat dgn Pak Andy aja:)
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sama, ane juga selalu olwez nurut apa kata Pak Zombie kaan...:]K
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nubie ikut sumbang pendapat
back to topic..menurut nubie kalaupun berita diatas benar, rasanya tidak perlu terlalu di expose media karena sebetulnya hal ini amat sangat wajar dimana prinsipal sebuah produk akan berjuang mati2an untuk selalu menjaga citra baik produk mereka (padahal mungkin tanpa trik2 seperti ini mereka sudah menjadi nomor 1, tapi yang namanya manusia, ga pernah ada rasa puasnya)
disclaimer : bukan sales atau fanboy tigaelips

menurut nubie ini hal yang umum kalo diliat dari sudut pandang marketing dimana team marketing sebuah merk akan berusaha membuat pencitraan terbaik buat produk mereka. salah satu cara yang paling efektif adalah dengan meng-expose hasil penjualan produk mereka, meskipun terkadang direkayasa. cara ini luar biasa hebat untuk "mencuci otak" konsumen agar berpikir sebuah produk dari merk tertentu adalah yang terbaik (ini sindrom kelemahan berpikir konsumen di negara manapun - produk terlaris adalah produk terbaik, yang padahal belum tentu demikian).Deasegara wrote:Berita ini bener gak ya bro....kok ada main tepu segala....
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2012/09 ... rnya.di.AS
back to topic..menurut nubie kalaupun berita diatas benar, rasanya tidak perlu terlalu di expose media karena sebetulnya hal ini amat sangat wajar dimana prinsipal sebuah produk akan berjuang mati2an untuk selalu menjaga citra baik produk mereka (padahal mungkin tanpa trik2 seperti ini mereka sudah menjadi nomor 1, tapi yang namanya manusia, ga pernah ada rasa puasnya)
disclaimer : bukan sales atau fanboy tigaelips

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bisa saja dibilang umum siih,
cuma klo di amerika sono kan klo pembohongan publik yg dilakukan oleh pejabat publik tu termasuk kriminal ya?
nah klo pembohongan publik tapi dilakukan oleh bukan pejabat publik spt itu, disono termasuk kriminal juga bukan? bisa dituntut oleh jaksa wilayah gak?
jd kepo,
pabrikan yg lain melakukan jg gak? klo pun melakukan, ketauan gak?
cuma klo di amerika sono kan klo pembohongan publik yg dilakukan oleh pejabat publik tu termasuk kriminal ya?
nah klo pembohongan publik tapi dilakukan oleh bukan pejabat publik spt itu, disono termasuk kriminal juga bukan? bisa dituntut oleh jaksa wilayah gak?
jd kepo,
pabrikan yg lain melakukan jg gak? klo pun melakukan, ketauan gak?
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nubie ga mau nuduh cm kayanya semua pasti pernah melakukanandy1800 wrote:bisa saja dibilang umum siih,
cuma klo di amerika sono kan klo pembohongan publik yg dilakukan oleh pejabat publik tu termasuk kriminal ya?
nah klo pembohongan publik tapi dilakukan oleh bukan pejabat publik spt itu, disono termasuk kriminal juga bukan? bisa dituntut oleh jaksa wilayah gak?
jd kepo,
pabrikan yg lain melakukan jg gak? klo pun melakukan, ketauan gak?

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kucing_garong wrote:nubie ga mau nuduh cm kayanya semua pasti pernah melakukanandy1800 wrote:bisa saja dibilang umum siih,
cuma klo di amerika sono kan klo pembohongan publik yg dilakukan oleh pejabat publik tu termasuk kriminal ya?
nah klo pembohongan publik tapi dilakukan oleh bukan pejabat publik spt itu, disono termasuk kriminal juga bukan? bisa dituntut oleh jaksa wilayah gak?
jd kepo,
pabrikan yg lain melakukan jg gak? klo pun melakukan, ketauan gak?

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provokator detectedDeasegara wrote:Pak Sudarsono N kang Fortunerman biasanya lebih duluan tahu berita ginian bener gaknyaDeasegara wrote:Berita ini bener gak ya bro....kok ada main tepu segala....
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2012/09 ... rnya.di.AS

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Gak tau bener apa nggak...tapi udah ente copas sana siniDeasegara wrote:Berita ini bener gak ya bro....kok ada main tepu segala....
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2012/09 ... rnya.di.AS

Oooo....jadi Toyota tukang bohong...tapi kok duitnya kenceng ya? Jangan2 Mitsubishi no.1....tapi kok mpot2an

http://green.autoblog.com/2012/09/20/fo ... -chevy-vo/
Forbes columnist takes stab at GM's 'scams' with Chevy Volt sales numbers
A Forbes piece is blasting the Chevrolet Volt as a failure again, calling General Motors out for what the magazine says is a manipulation of sales numbers for the extended-range electric vehicle.
The publication has published an editorial by contributor Patrick Michaels which accused the automaker of "giving away rent-a-Volts," saying the model's record-high sales of 2,831 units last month were artificially inflated because about two-thirds of the sales were leased (for as little as $199 a month). Michaels argues that true sales to the general public are closer to about 850 units a month. Further fueling the opinion piece's claims of a government "scam" are recent reports that the U.S. Department of Defense will buy 1,500 Volts. In Michaels' words, "The fact is that no one wants this car."
As you likely recall, Reuters recently reported that GM may be losing almost $50,000 on each Volt sold, a claim that was judged to not stand up to arithmetic scrutiny – a contention that was quickly refuted by former GM executive Bob Lutz (in the pages of Forbes, no less).
And just think, there are only 12 days until GM's monthly sales numbers for September to come out. We can only wonder what we'll hear about then.
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TAM sekarang jualan BB juga yaa 

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Abu2 wrote:TAM sekarang jualan BB juga yaa



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Yang paling tahu jawabanya kang
FM bro he....he...he....


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All we need now cuma si TOYOTA-MAN, and the game beginFortunerMan wrote:Gak tau bener apa nggak...tapi udah ente copas sana siniDeasegara wrote:Berita ini bener gak ya bro....kok ada main tepu segala....
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2012/09 ... rnya.di.AS![]()
Oooo....jadi Toyota tukang bohong...tapi kok duitnya kenceng ya? Jangan2 Mitsubishi no.1....tapi kok mpot2an
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/09/20/fo ... -chevy-vo/
Forbes columnist takes stab at GM's 'scams' with Chevy Volt sales numbers
A Forbes piece is blasting the Chevrolet Volt as a failure again, calling General Motors out for what the magazine says is a manipulation of sales numbers for the extended-range electric vehicle.
The publication has published an editorial by contributor Patrick Michaels which accused the automaker of "giving away rent-a-Volts," saying the model's record-high sales of 2,831 units last month were artificially inflated because about two-thirds of the sales were leased (for as little as $199 a month). Michaels argues that true sales to the general public are closer to about 850 units a month. Further fueling the opinion piece's claims of a government "scam" are recent reports that the U.S. Department of Defense will buy 1,500 Volts. In Michaels' words, "The fact is that no one wants this car."
As you likely recall, Reuters recently reported that GM may be losing almost $50,000 on each Volt sold, a claim that was judged to not stand up to arithmetic scrutiny – a contention that was quickly refuted by former GM executive Bob Lutz (in the pages of Forbes, no less).
And just think, there are only 12 days until GM's monthly sales numbers for September to come out. We can only wonder what we'll hear about then.


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villanova_7th wrote:All we need now cuma si TOYOTA-MAN, and the game beginFortunerMan wrote:Gak tau bener apa nggak...tapi udah ente copas sana siniDeasegara wrote:Berita ini bener gak ya bro....kok ada main tepu segala....
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2012/09 ... rnya.di.AS![]()
Oooo....jadi Toyota tukang bohong...tapi kok duitnya kenceng ya? Jangan2 Mitsubishi no.1....tapi kok mpot2an
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/09/20/fo ... -chevy-vo/
Forbes columnist takes stab at GM's 'scams' with Chevy Volt sales numbers
A Forbes piece is blasting the Chevrolet Volt as a failure again, calling General Motors out for what the magazine says is a manipulation of sales numbers for the extended-range electric vehicle.
The publication has published an editorial by contributor Patrick Michaels which accused the automaker of "giving away rent-a-Volts," saying the model's record-high sales of 2,831 units last month were artificially inflated because about two-thirds of the sales were leased (for as little as $199 a month). Michaels argues that true sales to the general public are closer to about 850 units a month. Further fueling the opinion piece's claims of a government "scam" are recent reports that the U.S. Department of Defense will buy 1,500 Volts. In Michaels' words, "The fact is that no one wants this car."
As you likely recall, Reuters recently reported that GM may be losing almost $50,000 on each Volt sold, a claim that was judged to not stand up to arithmetic scrutiny – a contention that was quickly refuted by former GM executive Bob Lutz (in the pages of Forbes, no less).
And just think, there are only 12 days until GM's monthly sales numbers for September to come out. We can only wonder what we'll hear about then.![]()
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Jadi kepikiran, mbah Andy bikin ni tret buat manggil si toyotaman yak....?

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wah wah wah ... bisa kualat sama Kakak Pembina nih .....................maskopat wrote:ane ngumpet aja ah di atas pohon kelapa sambil makan kelapa muda... slurrrppp...


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Toyotaman=Fortunerman ?.....TM=FM ?.... 

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Jadi sekarang kemana kang Toyota Fortunerman........biasanya langsung nyamber kalo ada pertanyaan.......he...he...he...



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huahahahahahaha....udah ada gantinya sekarang - tuh si oknum diatas udah copas kemana mana....berita jelek toyota langsung dia copas kemana manacampoeran wrote:ngawur

Lucu ya...banyak banget yg obsesi busuk ama toyota

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