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Re: balon (bakal-calon) 1st car

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andy1800 wrote:
aspsilver wrote:liftback dan sedan setahu saya, cuma perbedaan model.
liftback lebih jarang, masalah kalo harus mengganti kaca lampu, bumper kalau rusak.

ic :off_good_job:

soalnya selisih harganya kayanya cukup signifikan jg.
tp mgkin mmg yg sedan jauh lbh liquid klo mau dijual kembali ya?

bukan sedan lebih liquid, tapi corolla liftback itu kurang disenangi sama masyarakat kita jadi gak laku, jadi murah.
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kalo ngerti mobil boleh beli lancer dan gan, kalo gak twin cam aja, aman.
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klu mobil pertama ada bagusnya mobil tua jepang. secara mesin ga rewel. trus klu sedikit2 ada perbaikan ringan gpp, biar ngerti cara ngerawat mobil. yg ringan2 kyk gini ya jepang. klu eropa bisa stress.

klu mobil baru malah ga pinter2. soalnya umumnya perawatan dilakukan masih di beres, yg serba taunya beres... beda ma bengkel umum yg bisa macem2....
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y_anjasrana wrote:klu mobil pertama ada bagusnya mobil tua jepang. secara mesin ga rewel. trus klu sedikit2 ada perbaikan ringan gpp, biar ngerti cara ngerawat mobil. yg ringan2 kyk gini ya jepang. klu eropa bisa stress.

klu mobil baru malah ga pinter2. soalnya umumnya perawatan dilakukan masih di beres, yg serba taunya beres... beda ma bengkel umum yg bisa macem2....

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Gak kok aku gak komen masalah 405 STI. Secara saya gak punya dan gak kepingin punya juga.

Mending ambil saudaranya CITROEN BX. Harganya cuma 25 juta udah tinggal pakai.

Kalau Dangan dan Twincam, saya jarang lihat yg masih baik. Ntar mogokan lho. Tapi kalau dapat mobil yg bagus, boleh juga sih
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ok pilihan mengerucut nih jadi Corolla twincam (apalagi kalo dapet yg se saloon ya..)
tapi masih nunggu review yg pernah miara 323 / 323 interplay, secara kan produksi Jepang juga..karena bodynya enak diliat dan abadi sama kaya corolla twincam..
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the_fridge wrote:ok pilihan mengerucut nih jadi Corolla twincam (apalagi kalo dapet yg se saloon ya..)
tapi masih nunggu review yg pernah miara 323 / 323 interplay, secara kan produksi Jepang juga..karena bodynya enak diliat dan abadi sama kaya corolla twincam..

mazda susah spare part dan bengkelnya kalau toyota udah pasti lebih nyaman
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VanzMatic wrote:
andy1800 wrote:
Alice Cullen wrote:Kalo lancer dan ga gmn oom ? dibandingin sama twin cam ?
*saya newbie yg jg ingin beli mobil pertama* :big_peace:
salam kenal semuanya...
salam kenal jg


lancer dan ga? ga tu apa? keknya maksudnya galant ya?
klo utk yg setara taunnya sm corola twincam, ane pikir lbh aman pilihannya twincam deh utk sebagai mobil pertama.
lain cerita jika sbg bukan mobil pertama, aplg mobil hobi.
Dan Gan kali mbah..... :mky_04:
o iya. dan gan tu lancer ya... liupa :big_peace:




the_fridge wrote:ok pilihan mengerucut nih jadi Corolla twincam (apalagi kalo dapet yg se saloon ya..)
tapi masih nunggu review yg pernah miara 323 / 323 interplay, secara kan produksi Jepang juga..karena bodynya enak diliat dan abadi sama kaya corolla twincam..
323/interplay lbh memerlukan perhatian khusus. semacam: nyari2 toko sparepartnya yg lengkap. bengkel yg lbh terbiasa.
ada baiknya mengorbankan keinginan tampil beda dulu. "belajar" ngerawat mobil dg cortwincam dulu. toh ntarnya semoga rezeki lebih akan bs miara mitsu/mazda/pug sbg mobil hobi.

tp mmg "nasehat" smcam ini biasanya sulit diterima oleh yg blm ngalami snendri.
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andy1800 wrote: -cut-

323/interplay lbh memerlukan perhatian khusus. semacam: nyari2 toko sparepartnya yg lengkap. bengkel yg lbh terbiasa.
ada baiknya mengorbankan keinginan tampil beda dulu. "belajar" ngerawat mobil dg cortwincam dulu. toh ntarnya semoga rezeki lebih akan bs miara mitsu/mazda/pug sbg mobil hobi.

tp mmg "nasehat" smcam ini biasanya sulit diterima oleh yg blm ngalami snendri.
Nasehat bijak simbah... :mky_06:
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coba inget pesen kang bro mas Risol....kalo rencana membeli mobil lawas kunci utamanya adalah ketersediaan sp part, faktor reliabilitas memang penting jg tapi bagaimanapun handal mbl tsb faktor tsb sudah menyusut krn dimakan waktu...bedanya mbl yg lbh reliabel cuma perlu sedikit jajan part dibanding yg less reliable...
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ok deh om..manut saya..kayanya emg corolla twincam lawas yg paling best value ya...sip deh..udh tegar nih hati..bismillah..
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the_fridge wrote:ok deh om..manut saya..kayanya emg corolla twincam lawas yg paling best value ya...sip deh..udh tegar nih hati..bismillah..
Oh iya, kebetulan keinged pesen master2 SM disini...

Katanya, kalo cari mobil seken, mending cari yang bodynya masih bagus! Kalau body udh berkarat2, alamat deh, ongkos perbaikan bodynya bakal melebihi biaya perbaikan mesin..

Ibaratnya, mesin kurang sehat pun, biaya perbaikannya tidak melebihi biaya perbaikan body yg udh dimakan karat dan rusak2 penyok, apalagi cat yg udh teroksidasi..


Just share lo ya,..

Mudah2an dapet yang sehat luar dalem deh.,.. :mky_01:
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biaya perbaikan body mungkin msh bisa diupayakan...yang jadi masalah utama adalah waktu yg diperlukan untuk perbaikan body itu jauuuuuuuhh lbh lama dibanding overhaul mesin,hehehehe....
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bukannya bodi tinggal diketok sama didempul terus di cat lagian benda mati coba penggerak kaya transmisi dan mesin gak semua orang bisa bongkar
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solar_kerosen wrote:bukannya bodi tinggal diketok sama didempul terus di cat lagian benda mati coba penggerak kaya transmisi dan mesin gak semua orang bisa bongkar
Memang sih, kalau keliatannya, ya keliatan "tinggal" doang.....
Ketok, dempul, itu kan setelah membersihkan karat2 nya dulu, ngelas2 plat dulu...itu kan juga banyak makan waktu yg luamaaaa gitu... belom ngetok nya... lama tuh... Blom lagi biaya catnya.

Cat seluruh body, berapa coba sekarang? itu belum termasuk ongkos mulai dari ngerok cat, ngilangin karat, ngetok, ndempul, dsb...

Udah makan waktu lama, mahal pula...

Ada nih contoh riil, sodara temen kantor ane, beli Carry 1000. Yg jelas, udh lama, jd ane agak lupa, jadi ternyata yang beli itu ketipu, body bawah Carry itu banyak kroposnya.. So, biaya perbaikannya itu sampai 1/3 dari harga beli mobilnya. Itu baru betulin body loh ya... belum cek mesinnya..
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hehehe...pengerjaan cat mobil kan tidak sesederhana mengecat tembok..... :D
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apalagi kalo ada body part yang harus diganti??? :big_weee:
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maskopat wrote:apalagi kalo ada body part yang harus diganti??? :big_weee:
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om VM lagi seneng manjang2in posting... :big_weee:
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maskopat wrote:om VM lagi seneng manjang2in posting... :big_weee:
ane emang demen yang panjang, om.....


























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VanzMatic wrote:
maskopat wrote:om VM lagi seneng manjang2in posting... :big_weee:
ane emang demen yang panjang, om.....


























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ak4ng wrote:revo??? :mky_04:
REvo belum sepanjang Kijang atau papanjah, k4ng... dia hanya belalang tempur ane di jalanan rimba Jakarta... :mky_03:
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VanzMatic wrote:
ak4ng wrote:revo??? :mky_04:
REvo belum sepanjang Kijang atau papanjah, k4ng... dia hanya belalang tempur ane di jalanan rimba Jakarta... :mky_03:
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ehm ehm..iseng iseng...ada yg mau jual corolla twincam-nya ?
barangkali adek/saudara/kawannya..hehe..

senior2 disini ada yg pernah miara twincam lawas? penyakit utamanya apaan sih om kalo boleh tau?

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ngeliat2 esteem nemu yg ini http://mobil.tokobagus.com/suzuki/suzuk ... rettyPhoto

cakep bgt kayanya, mulus, dan matic kayanya, emg ada ya esteem matic?

jadi penasaran kalo matic kelebihan dan kekurangannya apa ya rekan2 senior?

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