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bushkntl wrote:
doq wrote: simple nya gini oom;
subsidi premium dihapus, hanya utk plat kuning, motor dan kendaraan niaga (box,pick-up dll)
sebagai ganti nya, klo isi bbm non-premium dapet discount (misal nya) 20% dr harga pasaran minyak saat ini, misal nya itu tadi; pertamax Rp.8800,- menjadi Rp.7100,-

nah discount (subsidi) itu besaran prosentase nya tetap, walaupun harga minyak dunia fluktuatif. imho dg cara begini ga bakal ada lagi berita di media "anggaran APBN nombokin subsidi" karena lebih mudah perhitungan nya. selain itu jg ikut mendidik masyarakat (kita2 ini) agar menggunakan bbm dg lebih bijak.
just imho sih
boleh juga solusinya bro setidaknya beban bbm subsidi mobil pribadi berkurang 80% or berapa lah tergantung % nya
yup......
imho cara begini ga bakal bikin jebol apbn, terutama saat harga minyak melambung......
ga seperti system subsidi pada premium yg besaran prosentase nya berubah2 utk mengejar harga perliter Rp.4500,-
atau bisa jg cara itu diterapkan pada premium; tidak usah ada pembatasan namun tetap disubsidi model "discount"

btw ngeliat pengalaman kemaren2, saya sih skeptis klo wacana pembatasan bbm bakal diberlakukan tahun depan.........lagu lama :shrug:
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doq wrote: yup......
imho cara begini ga bakal bikin jebol apbn, terutama saat harga minyak melambung......
ga seperti system subsidi pada premium yg besaran prosentase nya berubah2 utk mengejar harga perliter Rp.4500,-
atau bisa jg cara itu diterapkan pada premium; tidak usah ada pembatasan namun tetap disubsidi model "discount"

btw ngeliat pengalaman kemaren2, saya sih skeptis klo wacana pembatasan bbm bakal diberlakukan tahun depan.........lagu lama :shrug:
setuju bro, saya udah bolak balik keluar masuk indo tiap kali pas balik selalu dengar wacana ini tapi gak jadi melulu :mrgreen:
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kalopun tetap dibatasi, ada baiknya pemerintah jangan langsung saklek...
mungkin bs dicoba sosialisasi senin - jumat premium dibatasi, sabtu - minggu atau hari libur bebas beli premium.

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wkwkwk
wacana ya tinggal wacana, sementara yg berwenang bulak-balik rapat merumuskan ketentuan2 dan tetek bengek nya---->ngabisin duid lagi........cepe deeeeee :wkkk:
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doq wrote:wkwkwk
wacana ya tinggal wacana, sementara yg berwenang bulak-balik rapat merumuskan ketentuan2 dan tetek bengek nya---->ngabisin duid lagi........cepe deeeeee :wkkk:
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knapa ngak di naikin aja harga premium...trus pajak di kurangi ...pengurangannya di buat senilai dg subsidi yg katanya buat premium...
turnkan harga harga...BUBARKAN pki.... :big_peace: :big_peace: : :mky_08:
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bushkntl wrote:
berarti kalau makin besar subsidinya artinya ada kemungkinan besar pajak2 juga ikut naik juga? dan pajak beban langsungnya ke masyarakat.
itu salah satu cara, carai lain bisa jg ngutang bro :mrgreen:
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akang mana yah.. cepetan ganti panther, pajero, atau innova diesel..
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ilhami wrote:akang mana yah.. cepetan ganti panther, pajero, atau innova diesel..
Gak bakalan om, paling juga dia lagi guling2 cari harga mesin buat swap engine ke Habanja dia... :mky_04:
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bener bener vote 42ner kalo gini mah... :big_peace: :big_peace: :mky_01: :mky_01:
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evolution21 wrote:
bushkntl wrote:
berarti kalau makin besar subsidinya artinya ada kemungkinan besar pajak2 juga ikut naik juga? dan pajak beban langsungnya ke masyarakat.
itu salah satu cara, carai lain bisa jg ngutang bro :mrgreen:
utang juga di bayar balik lewat pajak juga kan? kanan kiri rakyat lagi yg bayar :mrgreen:
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http://nasional.kontan.co.id/v2/read/13 ... lasi-05-06
intinya taun depan ati2
soalnya bbm subsidi mau dikurangin lagi jatahnya
padahal tiap tahun dah pasti pemakaian bbm selalu meningkat
hati2 kalo baru awal2 diterapkan jatahnya dah mepet, ntar bisa keluar jurus2 "khusus" nya
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jurus2 "khusus" itu apa ya bro?
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evolution21 wrote:<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://nasional.kontan.co.id/v2/read/13 ... v2/read/13 ... lasi-05-06</a><!-- m -->
intinya taun depan ati2
soalnya bbm subsidi mau dikurangin lagi jatahnya
padahal tiap tahun dah pasti pemakaian bbm selalu meningkat
hati2 kalo baru awal2 diterapkan jatahnya dah mepet, ntar bisa keluar jurus2 "khusus" nya
Jurus "khusus" gelap membahayakan dan gak jelas....uwkwkwkw
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wakakaka bener, makanya mobil murah aja deh yg pake bbm subsidi
kalo kena fuel pump jg harganya cuman berapa ratus ribu :ngacir:
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Tapi kalo 2 minggu sekali ganti fuel pump mah, sama aja bo'ong...
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tapi feeling ane si jurus khususnya hanya bisa dilakukan sesekali dan ga bisa lama2
karena tiap ada kasusnya muncul
ampir semua media, koran, majalah membahasnya
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jurus khusus????
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evolution21 wrote:wakakaka bener, makanya mobil murah aja deh yg pake bbm subsidi
kalo kena fuel pump jg harganya cuman berapa ratus ribu :ngacir:
gak pake lama spare part Imitasinya langsung keluar dalam setahun ,harga bisa lebih ditekan :mky_03:
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sabar sabar aja bro paling 2 tahun ini pertamina gak bakalan kuat deh nahan gempuran Xenia avanza makin hari makin banyak , subsidi makin menyempit secara gak main main Yunani di eropa sudah dikatakan bangkrut artinya negara siap siap inflasi
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kembali ke judul topic, "kuat beli mobil gak kuat bayar bbm non subsidi"

kenapa sampe gak kuat ?? apakah :

1. meski secara keuangan mampu beli bbm non subsidi tp karena masih ada bbm yg lebih murah (premium sbg produk alternatif dr pertamax, seperti contoh DVD ori vs DVD bajakan) ?
2. uang ops bulanan menipis krn habis buat bayar cicilan mobilnya itu sendiri ? (ini juga saya rasakan sewaktu mobil blm lunas :mrgreen: )
3. beli bbm non subsidi dianggap cuma pemborosan krn jalanan macet ?
4. merasa sudah bayar pajak sehingga merasa berhak menikmati bbm subsidi ?
5. karena mobil gak pernah masalah meski terus2an pake bbm subsidi ? (sejak kejadian FP pada jebol banyak yg beralih ke pertamax krn kapok pake premium lagi)
6. atau...karena blm ada bbm alternatif yg lebih murah dr bbm subsidi ? :mrgreen:

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Ane milih nomor satu saja deh..‎​‎​Ђεђεђε :D Ђεђεђε™
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No 3 deh..hehehe