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Om ada yang tau ga harga sensor ABS honda city tahun 2004 (kiri depan)..??Kok cepet bgt ya rusaknya mobil ane jalan 96ribu KM..Kemaren rusaknya gara2 ganti bearing roda depan kiri tiba2 aja muncul tuh lampu peringatan ABS.. :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:
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aldy wrote:Om ada yang tau ga harga sensor ABS honda city tahun 2004 (kiri depan)..??Kok cepet bgt ya rusaknya mobil ane jalan 96ribu KM..Kemaren rusaknya gara2 ganti bearing roda depan kiri tiba2 aja muncul tuh lampu peringatan ABS.. :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:

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sebelom diganti... coba dicek dulu om... soket2 nya kenceng ga tuh pasang nya ?? atau bisa jg tuh sensor2 abs nya kotor ga, gara2 kena tangan montir yg belepotan gemuk pas masang bearing... coba aja di bersihin trus dipasang lagi tuh sensor abs nya....

dulu perna kejadian kaya gt soalnya di ipah ane... ternyata sensor abs di rem blakang kotor kena kotoran pas lagi bersihin rem blakang.... gt dibersihin, normal lagi koq...
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ini perlu dicek lagi apa krn cuma gara2 kekeliruan montir atau memang lifetime sensornya yg udah perlu diganti...

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mnurut kak rijal emang biasanya sensor ABS itu umurnya brapa lama kak ?? di ipah ane uda 5 taon trus jalan 106 rebu masi ok2 aja....

btw gmana kabar kak ?? trus gmana kabar asmirandah... :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee:
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sensor asmirandah baik2 saja chiong... :big_weee:
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perlu ane bersihin ga kak sensor2 nya dia.... siapa tau jarak tempuh nya si asmirandah uda tinggi gt... :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee:
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Cb bawa ke beres.biasany dapet tu masalahny lgsg pk komputer.
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Iya om didiagnosis tewas ama beres honda..Harganya 1 jeti (tapi sapa tau kalo beli diluar lebih murah :e-think: ) :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: ..Kemaren gara2 ane servis di bengkel S***KI kali ya ganti bearing terus sensornya ke "pukul" / terkasari jadi rusak.. sudah coba ane bersihin tetep aja nyala om.. :e-wall:
Dan gilanya buat "ngakalin" gara2 sensor ABS nyala..si bengkel S***KI nuker sensor sebelah kanan dituker sebelah kiri..akibatnya lampu peringatan rem ikut2an nyala pulak.. :mad: :mad: ..ampun deh cukup sekali aja pengalaman di bengkel S***KI.. emang lebih baik ke BERES biar mahal tapi "selamat" :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ..IMHO
*ngotot servis di S***KI soalnya deket rumah dan murah :upss: :upss: :big_peace:
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wahh...kalo udah beda bendera merek sih agak susah jg ya....sebab SOP kerja dr masing2 merek bs aja beda.... :ungg: :ungg: :ungg:
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iya oom soalnya ane ganti kampas rem..ampe tune up di non beres sebelomnya ga knapa2 ya dasar apes kemaren ganti bearing malah rusak sensornya ABS.. :frm_bang_head: padahal kata beres komponen yg jarang bgt rusaknya..belinya pun harus inden 1 minggu.. :shrug:
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btw...meski sensornya udah eror...tapi kinerja rem nya sendiri gmn mas...? maksudnya sewaktu pengereman panik dll apakah ada gejala yg aneh2... ? :e-think:
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Hati2 kalau sensor rusak nanti malah bisa ngerem sendiri lhorr
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Masih sih om stig bisa ngerem sndiri??soalnya ane pake ngerem kemarin normal2 aja n beres bilang rem normal cuma ABS aja ga jalan..jadi mobil aman dipake :e-think:
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ah gile juga nih Honda masa gak ready di jawa , masa sensor ABS harus pesan dari jepang [cencored] mah kampungan banget katanya after sales service dimana mana sensor kaya gitu aja gak ready :e-snooty:
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Klo menurut ane sensor ini jarang rusak oom.mkny sparepartny yidak rede oom.
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Ane pengen tau... Kl indikator ABS nyala apakah berpengaruh pd performa rem mbl tsb?.?
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henz155 wrote:Klo menurut ane sensor ini jarang rusak oom.mkny sparepartny yidak rede oom.
yup nih sensor jarang bgt rusak..Kalo rusak kyk ane apes2nya aja :e-wall:
Kalo performa rem ya tetep kayak mobil biasa tanpa sistem ABS..jadi kalo panic braking (injak pedal rem penuh) ada kemungkinan roda ngunci (lock)..
dan seumur2 ane kagak pernah merasakan manfaat ABS di jalan raya/tol ( hard braking sambil manuver mbelokkan setir ).. #jangan sampe kejadian lah :e-snooty:
Sekedar sharing info aja..ati2 kalo ganti bearing buat mobil ber ABS..ternyata bearing mobil ber ABS ada magnetnya..jadi kalo sampe salah pake bearing yg ga bermagnet dijamin sistem ABSnya ga jalan/malfunction..
Honda city 2004 4 roda udah ada sensor ABSnya semua..
Kutipan mbah wiki mengenai sistem sensor ABS.. :frm_tumbleft:

Anti-lock braking systems use different schemes depending on the type of brakes in use. They can be differentiated by the number of channels: that is, how many valves that are individually controlled—and the number of speed sensors.[10]

Four-channel, four-sensor ABS
This is the best scheme. There is a speed sensor on all four wheels and a separate valve for all four wheels. With this setup, the controller monitors each wheel individually to make sure it is achieving maximum braking force.
Three-channel, four-sensor ABS
There is a speed sensor on all four wheels and a separate valve for each of the front wheels, but only one valve for both of the rear wheels.
Three-channel, three-sensor ABS
This scheme, commonly found on pickup trucks with four-wheel ABS, has a speed sensor and a valve for each of the front wheels, with one valve and one sensor for both rear wheels. The speed sensor for the rear wheels is located in the rear axle. This sys­tem provides individual control of the front wheels, so they can both achieve maximum braking force. The rear wheels, however, are monitored together; they both have to start to lock up before the ABS will activate on the rear. With this system, it is possible that one of the rear wheels will lock during a stop, reducing brake effectiveness. This system is easy to identify, as there are no individual speed sensors for the rear wheels.
One-channel, one-sensor ABS
This system is commonly found on pickup trucks with rear-wheel ABS. It has one valve, which controls both rear wheels, and one speed sensor, located in the rear axle. This system operates the same as the rear end of a three-channel system. The rear wheels are monitored together and they both have to start to lock up before the ABS kicks in. In this system it is also possible that one of the rear wheels will lock, reducing brake effectiveness. This system is also easy to identify, as there are no individual speed sensors for any of the wheels.
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AD74YA wrote:Hati2 kalau sensor rusak nanti malah bisa ngerem sendiri lhorr
sepertinya gak mungkin deh...karena aktuasi pengereman kan tetap dr pedal
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solar_kerosen wrote:ah gile juga nih Honda masa gak ready di jawa , masa sensor ABS harus pesan dari jepang [cencored] mah kampungan banget katanya after sales service dimana mana sensor kaya gitu aja gak ready :e-snooty:


kalau di daerah tinggal saya mereka pesannya dr HPM karawang, kalau untuk area surabaya entah drmana datangnya..

emang kampungan apa enggak diliat dr ready apa enggaknya ya? :mrgreen: :e-whistle:
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Dasar peternak honda......
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AD74YA wrote:Hati2 kalau sensor rusak nanti malah bisa ngerem sendiri lhorr

Pengalaman temen saya sehh tdk berpengaruh sampai ngerem sendiri, cuma panic break jd kyk mbl biasa(kpn lg liat s class bs breaking pake bunyi citttt kyk station) n jg tuh lampu indikator kedap kedip sampe bosen liatnya. Ud hampir 6 bulan blm d betulin, fine2 saja tuh remnya, maklum msh berat d kantong. Serem jg denger dia crita. taun 2003 beli 2007 pake sampe skg 2011 maintenance cost ud dpt Terios 1 unit euy
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Klo part honda d sby coba k daerah karang menjangan(BG junction belok kiri), kiri jalan setelah dealer honda, ada toko spesialis sparepart honda cuma sy lupa namanya. Ato klo mau alternatif bengkel skalian tanya sapa tau bs lbh murah, bs k joshua d jalan raya kenjeran. Btw TS dr sby t? bs PM dunk bengkel yg tmp ts ganti bearing, yah sekedar knowledge saja buat sy n temen2 klo tanya2
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Iya om ane PM ntar..ane domisili surabaya tinggal di daerah ITS..
Wah om ane kali ini percayain ama BERES buat masalah penggantian sensor ABS termasuk spare partnya (jadi ane nanya harga sensor di luar BERES ini cuma buat perabandingan harga aja)..takutnya (jaga2 kemungkinan terburuk walau alat diagnosanya udah ngejudge sensor ABS rusak) udah diganti sensornya lampu peringatan ABS tetep nyala.. :e-wall: bisa2 tekor ane :e-doh: :e-doh: ..Soalnya dibengkel honda kalo spare part bawa sendiri si BERES kagak mau njamin apa2 ama pekerjaannya :e-snooty: So mahal dikit gpp yg penting hati tetep adem,,walau kantong kempes :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ..
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:frm_tumbright: MAntap om aldy :e-clap:
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