transmisi manual, ga bisa netral ga bisa mundur kenapa?

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transmisi manual, ga bisa netral ga bisa mundur kenapa?

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Hi bro2..
I need your help guys..
Mobilku charade 80 kok ga bisa netral ga bisa mundur ya..maunya maju terus
walopun giginya dah dinetralin tetep maju, gitu juga waktu giginya masuk mundur, mobilnya kok tetep maju
kenapa ya bro?

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Nah lo......
Aneh juga yah bro? :e-think:

Tapi kalo menurut analisa sy kemungkinan terkecil nya ada masalah di kabel persnelengnya, bisa jadi kabel select yg buat gigi mundur putus atau kabel select yg buat gigi maju telalu ketat atau hampir putus (tinggal beberapa lembar sling yg masih utuh) coba dicek kabel2 ini terlebih dahulu.....
Kalo ga ada masalah di kabel transmisi/operan berarti ada masalah di dalam gearbox persnelingnya........sebaiknya sih diperiksakan saja ke bengkel langganan supaya lebih aktual hasilnya,,

Semoga membantu..... :e-whistle:
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hmmm .... penyakitnya spt mbl panther teman ane nih........... penyebabnya plat kopling n teman2nya diganti.......... beres dahhh.......

Atau spt kata bro mandala, periksa dulu tali koplingnya............ mungkin dah putus, jadi ga bisa oper gigi..........

smoga bermanfaat........... :e-whistle:
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mandala1 wrote:Nah lo......
Aneh juga yah bro? :e-think:

Tapi kalo menurut analisa sy kemungkinan terkecil nya ada masalah di kabel persnelengnya, bisa jadi kabel select yg buat gigi mundur putus atau kabel select yg buat gigi maju telalu ketat atau hampir putus (tinggal beberapa lembar sling yg masih utuh) coba dicek kabel2 ini terlebih dahulu.....
Kalo ga ada masalah di kabel transmisi/operan berarti ada masalah di dalam gearbox persnelingnya........sebaiknya sih diperiksakan saja ke bengkel langganan supaya lebih aktual hasilnya,,

Semoga membantu..... :e-whistle:
Thanks bro.. dah 2 minggu di bengkel bukan langganan, msh ga beres juga
Sempet bisa netral/mundur tp akhirnya ga bisa lagi..
mo coba datengin montir langganan aja..
ntar kalo dah bener, aku share deh yg masalah apanya
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^^oke bro....siip deh,, semoga masalah nya cepat terselesaikan....
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yg bisa jadi penyebabnya al:
1. kabel/tuasnya.
2. matahari udah lemah. jadinya pegasnya nggak bisa main.akibatnya kopling lengket dan sulit pindah gigi.(berhubung gigi 2 sd 4 bisa masuk rasanya bukan poin penyebabnya).
3. sinchromeshnya rusak. sulit pindah gigi.
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iya bro..
sebelum rusak masuk gigi 1, 3 dan mundur agak susah..
trus dipake istri nerjang banjir.. tp masih bisa sampe rumah, besoknya baru rusak..
apa karena nerjang banjir ya?
aku lupa apa aja spare part yang udah diganti ma si bengkel, coba ntar aku liat catetannya

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Di ganti aja Bos ama yang lebih muda :mrgreen:
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mau nanya boss....kalo posisi mesin lg mati bisa pindah2 gigi gak ke semua posisi ?
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jalu wrote:mau nanya boss....kalo posisi mesin lg mati bisa pindah2 gigi gak ke semua posisi ?
harusnya sih bisa yah............... emangnye kenapa bro.... :e-think:
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sjamsul wrote:
jalu wrote:mau nanya boss....kalo posisi mesin lg mati bisa pindah2 gigi gak ke semua posisi ?
harusnya sih bisa yah............... emangnye kenapa bro.... :e-think:
(pura2 nya ane jadi bro jalu) ehehehe......kaga napa napa sih om, iseng ajah nanya.... :mrgreen: wekekek.......... :ngacir: :ngacir:


Mestinya di tanya dulu om.....mobilnya apaan? Merk apa, matic atau manual gitu...... :e-whistle:
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mandala1 wrote:
sjamsul wrote:
jalu wrote:mau nanya boss....kalo posisi mesin lg mati bisa pindah2 gigi gak ke semua posisi ?
harusnya sih bisa yah............... emangnye kenapa bro.... :e-think:
(pura2 nya ane jadi bro jalu) ehehehe......kaga napa napa sih om, iseng ajah nanya.... :mrgreen: wekekek.......... :ngacir: :ngacir:


Mestinya di tanya dulu om.....mobilnya apaan? Merk apa, matic atau manual gitu...... :e-whistle:
(ceritanye ane penasaran ama bro jalu neh)....
untuk lbh jelasnya silahkan dicoba sendiri bro....................... wakakaka.......... :big_weee:


ogahhhh................. :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Broken fork(s) ?
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weh...cuma pengen tau bos...kalo kondisi mesin mati masih bisa pindah2 ke setiap posisi gigi, mungkin tuas & linkagenya gak masalah. Kemungkinan problem ada di bagian lain

saya pernah ngalamin susah pindah gigi, waktu itu masalahnya ada di tuas & bushing sambungan2 kabel /link dr tuas ke girbox, bushing& karetnya dah aus, jadi gerakan dr tuas gak maksimal diteruskan oleh kabel/link ke girboks. akibatnya gigi susah masuk. Dan gejala ini baik kondisi mesin lg idup atu mati tetap sama, susah ngoper.

begitu lho oom.... :off_good:
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mesin mati masih bisa pindah2 gigi bos..
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kayaknya penyakit ada didalem girboks, bukan diluar girboks. asumsi saya mungkin shift fork (garpu pemindah) di dalem girboks dah aus. sebab setahu saya kalo sikngkromes yang aus itu malah kebalikan, suka balik sendiri ke netral.CMIIW
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Kalo sinchromesh rusak/aus, perpindahan giginya kasar/susah om..
Berhubung tiap gigi ada sincromeshnya, biasanya kerusakan sincromesh disalah satu gigi. Bukan semuanya.
Misal sulit pindah dari gigi 1 ke 2 , lainnya normal saja.

Kalau susah masuk di semua gigi, kemungkinan mataharinya udah lemah..

sedangkan Kerusakan di tuas...bisa saja menjadi penyebabnya...
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halo bro semua..
ini daftar spare part yg udah diganti:
1. 1 set sinkromes + per
2. dudukan transmisi
tapi transmisi masih blm bener lho.. lg nunggu montir langganan dateng ke rumah

terus terang aku buta masalah transmisi. bisa minta tolong di share foto2 sinkromesh, shift fork dll, biar aku tau barangnya kayak apa.

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di tunggu perkembangan berikutnya Bro..untuk pengetahua bersama,tanks :mrgreen:
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guys,
hari ini transmisi dibongkar lagi sama montir langganan..
part yang diganti: kampas kopling, dek laher (benera ga nulisnya??)
sempet bisa maju, mundur, netral.. tp ga berapa lama kumat lagi ga bisa mundur n ga bisa netral
penyakit ini kumat setiap habis masuk gigi mundur
analisa sementara dari si montir: pen gigi mundur nyantol di gigi maju..
besok mo dilanjut lagi benerinnya..

any comment guys?

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gonz wrote:guys,
hari ini transmisi dibongkar lagi sama montir langganan..
part yang diganti: kampas kopling, dek laher (benera ga nulisnya??)
sempet bisa maju, mundur, netral.. tp ga berapa lama kumat lagi ga bisa mundur n ga bisa netral
penyakit ini kumat setiap habis masuk gigi mundur
analisa sementara dari si montir: pen gigi mundur nyantol di gigi maju..
besok mo dilanjut lagi benerinnya..

any comment guys?

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klo dah ganti kampas koplingnya, sebaiknya satu set yaitu dek krup (tulisnya tolong dikoreksi) juga, klo bisa pilot bearingnya juga diganti.... jadi ga 2 kali kerja........... :e-whistle:
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sjamsul wrote: klo dah ganti kampas koplingnya, sebaiknya satu set yaitu dek krup (tulisnya tolong dikoreksi) juga, klo bisa pilot bearingnya juga diganti.... jadi ga 2 kali kerja........... :e-whistle:
Ada yg kurang om : kampas kopling(clutch disc) + matahari/dekrup(clutch cover) + dreklaher(realease bearing) + laher gendeng(pilot bearing) :)
Oiya buat bro gonz : sebisa mungkin ganti kopling dkk, pake yg ori bro....(minimal merk daikin exedy) karena kalo imitasi apalagi yg abal2 rentan bgt menimbulkan getaran,, btw kabel/tali tuas operan persneleng udah di cek bro? :e-think:
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mandala1 wrote:
sjamsul wrote: klo dah ganti kampas koplingnya, sebaiknya satu set yaitu dek krup (tulisnya tolong dikoreksi) juga, klo bisa pilot bearingnya juga diganti.... jadi ga 2 kali kerja........... :e-whistle:
Ada yg kurang om : kampas kopling(clutch disc) + matahari/dekrup(clutch cover) + dreklaher(realease bearing) + laher gendeng(pilot bearing) :)
Oiya buat bro gonz : sebisa mungkin ganti kopling dkk, pake yg ori bro....(minimal merk daikin exedy) karena kalo imitasi apalagi yg abal2 rentan bgt menimbulkan getaran,, btw kabel/tali tuas operan persneleng udah di cek bro? :e-think:
betul dal, tp khan ts nya dah tulis .......... jadi ane cuma melengkapi aja................ hehehe............. :big_peace:
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^^siiip om..... semoga permasalahan di mobil TS cepat selesai...... :frm_tumbright:
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mandala1 wrote:^^siiip om..... semoga permasalahan di mobil TS cepat selesai...... :frm_tumbright:
iya........ mudah2an cepat selesai........... tp yg ane binun, saat ganti plat kopling, kenapa dia ga ganti teman2nya sekalian yah.......... khan jadi 2 kali kerja............ :e-think: