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V8turbocharged wrote:oh filter udara toh.. kirain kalau bener filter oli, mahal bener 325rbu.. hehe...
Filter oli chevy captiva 684rb an.. Emang chevy gak iat jualan di indo. Hehe
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DOHC wrote:
kompresorz wrote:@mod dohc...

busi tau mati gimana mod?
pas idling dan pas lg aksel nya agak aneh om.. agak ga smooth... tp yg plg berasa biasanya geter2 mesin aneh... nahh kalo dari penampakan busi biasanya ujung tip si iridium itu uda aus banget...

cmiiw dan imaly dari pengalaman bongkar2 lipina ane dl...

terus klo iridium sampe brp kilometer mod..
di w204 sudah 50ribuan belum ganti(dl ganti 50ribu)..di all new citi sudah 80ribu...katanya sampe 100ribu...benar gak mod?

trims mod...
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utk chevy cptiva emangnya ga ad yg KW yahh utk parts2 fast moving yg mencekik leher tsb ?? smisal s@kura dkk ?? :e-think: :e-think:
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blunder om... ane lupa di tret mana, tp ada user yg pake freed dgn busi iridium... baru dipake 20 rebu km aja uda modar... itu di XR ane, dipaksa ampe 70 rebu km pas baru tewas...

kayanya lebi tergantung ke arah pemakaian dan bensin nya sehh om... perna dpt primbon dari montir bengkel... busi iridium itu lebi cocok nya buat pemakaian yg less traffic... krn kalo kebanyakan idling alias macet malah bkin busi nya cepet tewas.. premium yg bkin mesin glitik pun jg turut serta katanya...


kompresorz wrote:
DOHC wrote:
kompresorz wrote:@mod dohc...

busi tau mati gimana mod?
pas idling dan pas lg aksel nya agak aneh om.. agak ga smooth... tp yg plg berasa biasanya geter2 mesin aneh... nahh kalo dari penampakan busi biasanya ujung tip si iridium itu uda aus banget...

cmiiw dan imaly dari pengalaman bongkar2 lipina ane dl...

terus klo iridium sampe brp kilometer mod..
di w204 sudah 50ribuan belum ganti(dl ganti 50ribu)..di all new citi sudah 80ribu...katanya sampe 100ribu...benar gak mod?

trims mod...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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twa wrote:
erwinstwn wrote: satu lagi om, busi NGKnya yang udh iridium,150rb. kl udah nginjek tahun ke 5 busi mesti ganti tiap 3 bulan :off_no:
masa sih om ? punya gw udh mau 6 thn masih bagus.

pengalaman di bengkel toyota dan nissan biarpun bawa olie sendiri + cabin filter ngak pernah dicharge biaya pasang tambahan. kata Sa nya udh inc service kelipatan 10rb atau 40rb.
3 bulan dapat berapa km, pak?
Busi "biasa" saja kadang sampai 10.000an km masih baik, kalau iridium mestinya jauh lebih awet
Coba dijembreng penampakannya, mungkin salah heat range, jadi busi-nya cepat tewas :D
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meneer..

kalo busi iridium memangnya kalo tewas penampakan nya kaya apa sehh.... kalo ujung tip nya aus ga merata, berwarna keputihan itu termasuk uda tewas atau belum yah ??
imsus2c wrote:
twa wrote:
erwinstwn wrote: satu lagi om, busi NGKnya yang udh iridium,150rb. kl udah nginjek tahun ke 5 busi mesti ganti tiap 3 bulan :off_no:
masa sih om ? punya gw udh mau 6 thn masih bagus.

pengalaman di bengkel toyota dan nissan biarpun bawa olie sendiri + cabin filter ngak pernah dicharge biaya pasang tambahan. kata Sa nya udh inc service kelipatan 10rb atau 40rb.
3 bulan dapat berapa km, pak?
Busi "biasa" saja kadang sampai 10.000an km masih baik, kalau iridium mestinya jauh lebih awet
Coba dijembreng penampakannya, mungkin salah heat range, jadi busi-nya cepat tewas :D
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kompresorz wrote:
DOHC wrote:
kompresorz wrote:@mod dohc...

busi tau mati gimana mod?
pas idling dan pas lg aksel nya agak aneh om.. agak ga smooth... tp yg plg berasa biasanya geter2 mesin aneh... nahh kalo dari penampakan busi biasanya ujung tip si iridium itu uda aus banget...

cmiiw dan imaly dari pengalaman bongkar2 lipina ane dl...

terus klo iridium sampe brp kilometer mod..
di w204 sudah 50ribuan belum ganti(dl ganti 50ribu)..di all new citi sudah 80ribu...katanya sampe 100ribu...benar gak mod?

trims mod...
Klaim dari Denso Iridium FAQ
Q. How long will Iridium Last?
A. Iridium use represents the most significant technological advance in automotive spark plug manufacturing, since platinum was introduced in the early eighties. As vehicle manufacturers produce increasingly complex and efficient automobiles, there is a greater need for long-life plugs that can tolerate leaner fuel mixtures and improved combustion processes. DENSO has responded to this need by developing its Iridium alloy, originally for OE applications. For example, many newer Lexus? and Toyota models carry an ultra long-life Iridium plug variation (.7mm with platinum tipped ground) that is capable of up to 120,000 miles of service. DENSO Iridium Power plugs, with their .4mm center electrode, have been developed for performance applications. Because gradual wear will ?round-off? firing points over time, the concentrated firing power and voltage requirement benefits will be reduced. For this reason, DENSO advises replacement after 30,000 miles.
Kalau busi cepet rusak, padahal mesin sehat dan businya (waktu baru) bagus/tdk cacat produksi, coba dicek ulang heat range -nya.
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DOHC wrote:meneer..

kalo busi iridium memangnya kalo tewas penampakan nya kaya apa sehh.... kalo ujung tip nya aus ga merata, berwarna keputihan itu termasuk uda tewas atau belum yah ??
Mesti dicek pakai avo-meter dulu, kalau perlu bawa ke bengkel, di test apakah masih bisa pancarkan api.
Kalau iridium aus dan warnanya keputihan, ada kemungkinan pembakaran terlalu lean, atau heat range tidak cocok dengan mesin (busi terlalu panas)
Coba naik 1 step lebih dingin.
Sebaliknya juga kalau hitam berkerak, kemungkinan pembakaran terlalu rich, atau heat range busi terlalu dingin
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nahh itu dulu masalah nya mobil ane ga bsa di stel CO meter nya meneer (HR15DE livina)... dan busi yg ane pake itu busi yg sesuai buku manual nya... beli nya pun di beres...

tp by default, memang enjin livina itu lean burn enjin meneer...
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kalau subaru gimana?
partnya mahal ga?
imsus2c wrote:
DOHC wrote:meneer..

kalo busi iridium memangnya kalo tewas penampakan nya kaya apa sehh.... kalo ujung tip nya aus ga merata, berwarna keputihan itu termasuk uda tewas atau belum yah ??
Mesti dicek pakai avo-meter dulu, kalau perlu bawa ke bengkel, di test apakah masih bisa pancarkan api.
Kalau iridium aus dan warnanya keputihan, ada kemungkinan pembakaran terlalu lean, atau heat range tidak cocok dengan mesin (busi terlalu panas)
Coba naik 1 step lebih dingin.
Sebaliknya juga kalau hitam berkerak, kemungkinan pembakaran terlalu rich, atau heat range busi terlalu dingin
kalau ganti kabel aki racing + ferrite yang ngaruh ke performa busi gimana om?
worth kah? atau sama kaya filter 3rd party, sembarangan make ada efek samping jelek
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kenapa di kepala gua sijuki ini paling murah ya biaya servis nya??
selama ini pegang sijuki jarang banget ganti spare-part, yg ada cuman oli2 yg emg harus rutin ganti..
makanya terakhir ambil sijuki kembaran M8 nya om madcat. dan seinget ane kmrn servis 20k di beres kena 6xx ribu (uda total semua itu) - info dari adik gua yg servis di dealer Sby.
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xtr40rd1n4rym4n wrote:kenapa di kepala gua sijuki ini paling murah ya biaya servis nya??
selama ini pegang sijuki jarang banget ganti spare-part, yg ada cuman oli2 yg emg harus rutin ganti..
makanya terakhir ambil sijuki kembaran M8 nya om madcat. dan seinget ane kmrn servis 20k di beres kena 6xx ribu (uda total semua itu) - info dari adik gua yg servis di dealer Sby.
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xtr40rd1n4rym4n wrote:kenapa di kepala gua sijuki ini paling murah ya biaya servis nya??
selama ini pegang sijuki jarang banget ganti spare-part, yg ada cuman oli2 yg emg harus rutin ganti..
makanya terakhir ambil sijuki kembaran M8 nya om madcat. dan seinget ane kmrn servis 20k di beres kena 6xx ribu (uda total semua itu) - info dari adik gua yg servis di dealer Sby.
:mky_02:
Mungkin sijuki untuk tipe2 tertentu emang murah om
Tapi kalo swift ga bisa dibilang murah sih part2nya :ngacir:
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Jambangan wrote:
xtr40rd1n4rym4n wrote:kenapa di kepala gua sijuki ini paling murah ya biaya servis nya??
selama ini pegang sijuki jarang banget ganti spare-part, yg ada cuman oli2 yg emg harus rutin ganti..
makanya terakhir ambil sijuki kembaran M8 nya om madcat. dan seinget ane kmrn servis 20k di beres kena 6xx ribu (uda total semua itu) - info dari adik gua yg servis di dealer Sby.
:mky_02:
Mungkin sijuki untuk tipe2 tertentu emang murah om
Tapi kalo swift ga bisa dibilang murah sih part2nya :ngacir:
2nd that
beberapa type mungkin emang murah oom......tapi type sijuki lain nya ga bisa dibilang begitu cmiiw
yaaaaa sebener nya ga jauh beda sama merk lain lah, cuman aja yg jd mindset kebanyakan orang sini khan miara sijuki itu cost nya semurah miara angkot :big_slap:
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imsus2c wrote:
twa wrote:
erwinstwn wrote: satu lagi om, busi NGKnya yang udh iridium,150rb. kl udah nginjek tahun ke 5 busi mesti ganti tiap 3 bulan :off_no:
masa sih om ? punya gw udh mau 6 thn masih bagus.

pengalaman di bengkel toyota dan nissan biarpun bawa olie sendiri + cabin filter ngak pernah dicharge biaya pasang tambahan. kata Sa nya udh inc service kelipatan 10rb atau 40rb.
3 bulan dapat berapa km, pak?
Busi "biasa" saja kadang sampai 10.000an km masih baik, kalau iridium mestinya jauh lebih awet
Coba dijembreng penampakannya, mungkin salah heat range, jadi busi-nya cepat tewas :D
dapet sekitar 6000an km om :mrgreen:
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doq wrote: 2nd that
beberapa type mungkin emang murah oom......tapi type sijuki lain nya ga bisa dibilang begitu cmiiw
yaaaaa sebener nya ga jauh beda sama merk lain lah, cuman aja yg jd mindset kebanyakan orang sini khan miara sijuki itu cost nya semurah miara angkot :big_slap:
nah ini mantan momod SM pakarnya sijuki telah bersabda :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote:nahh itu dulu masalah nya mobil ane ga bsa di stel CO meter nya meneer (HR15DE livina)... dan busi yg ane pake itu busi yg sesuai buku manual nya... beli nya pun di beres...

tp by default, memang enjin livina itu lean burn enjin meneer...
Makanya, coba trial pakai busi 1 step lebih dingin :D
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Salvanost wrote:kalau subaru gimana?
partnya mahal ga?
imsus2c wrote:
DOHC wrote:meneer..

kalo busi iridium memangnya kalo tewas penampakan nya kaya apa sehh.... kalo ujung tip nya aus ga merata, berwarna keputihan itu termasuk uda tewas atau belum yah ??
Mesti dicek pakai avo-meter dulu, kalau perlu bawa ke bengkel, di test apakah masih bisa pancarkan api.
Kalau iridium aus dan warnanya keputihan, ada kemungkinan pembakaran terlalu lean, atau heat range tidak cocok dengan mesin (busi terlalu panas)
Coba naik 1 step lebih dingin.
Sebaliknya juga kalau hitam berkerak, kemungkinan pembakaran terlalu rich, atau heat range busi terlalu dingin
kalau ganti kabel aki racing + ferrite yang ngaruh ke performa busi gimana om?
worth kah? atau sama kaya filter 3rd party, sembarangan make ada efek samping jelek
Mestinya lebih baik, secara perbaikan di sistem elektrik, tujuannya kan mengoptimalkan arus listrik yang salah satunya untuk nyetrum busi biar mantik api.
Untuk filter aftermarket (asumsi saya filter udara) yg kurang bagus, saya malah lebih khawatir efek negatifnya ke ruang bakar, terutama untuk sensor2 (misalnya sensor airflow)
Ada teman pernah cerita, pakai filter aftermarket yg pakai semacam cairan/oli untuk membantu daya filtrasinya.
Yang terjadi malah sensor airflow nya error (dan rusak), karena sensor dan kawatnya clogging terkena paparan uap oli tadi.
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erwinstwn wrote:
dapet sekitar 6000an km om :mrgreen:
Wah,
Kalau 6000 km busi sudah mati, itu pasti ada yg salah
Entah mesinnya atau salah milih businya
Busi biasa saja, mestinya kalau cuma 6000km sih masih kuat, apalagi iridium :e-think:
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Subaru Impreza 2012 (4th gen)

filter oli: Rp 106.000
oli Shell Helix7 5W-30 (oli mesin, 6 liter): kalo nggak salah inget per liternya Rp 160.000an
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Beli F30 lagi om kompre... *kompor mode : ON :mky_03:

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temen ngomong katanya kalau make premium siap2 busi cepat mati
apa benar?
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ricz wrote:Beli F30 lagi om kompre... *kompor mode : ON :mky_03:
kompornya ngeri...jual bekasnya richz...hahaha