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http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Searc ... continued/
Maybach is dead - Zetsche closes Merc's upmarket wing
By Tim Pollard
Motor Industry
25 November 2011 17:20

Daimler is to announce the closure of Maybach, marking the failure of its upmarket division resurrected to battle BMW's Rolls-Royce and VW's Bentley subsidiaries.

Chief exec Dieter Zetsche will tomorrow (Saturday 26 November) announce he's lost patience with Maybach in an interview with a weekend newspaper in Germany. No more Maybachs will be developed and stocks will deplete by later in 2012.

So Maybach's not been a success?

Far from it. Daimler has sold just 180 Maybachs year to date worldwide in 2011. The brand never took off in the way Mercedes hoped. Maybach sales never rose anywhere near four figures.

As revealed by CAR, Daimler had talked to Britain's Aston Martin over possible collaborations to co-sponsor a next generation of Maybachs beyond today's 57 and 62.

But those talks came to nought. From this weekend, Maybach will officially be dead. The numbers simply didn't stack up to warrant investment in a new platform.

What next for posh Mercedes?

Sounds like Merc will develop a new suite of top-end models spun from the next S-class range. Our European editor Georg Kacher reports that Merc plans the following models:

. A LWB S-class
. An XLWB S-class aimed at US/China
. A hyper-smart Pullman rebodied S-class
. New CL coupe
. New CL four-seater convertible

Mid-cycle, it also plans a four-door coupe based on the S-class architecture, but this wouldn't land until 2016.

Georg Kacher on Maybach's failure

CAR's seasoned industry watcher said Maybach never stood a chance against the better known Rolls-Royce and Bentley brands.

'Maybach is by far the weakest brand in that segment and the 57 and 62 reflected Mercedes' design weaknesses at the time,' he said. 'They might have been aimed at Asia, but what about the rest of the world?

'They also used S-class underpinnings at least a generation out of date. It's no wonder they didn't sell - the modern Maybachs were never special enough.'
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Nggak selamanya orang kaya itu 'bodoh' :mrgreen: Asal brand lux mahal plus personal concierge services langsung disikat.

Terbuai legacy masa lalu yang uda terkubur puluhan taun. Resurrected. Judulnya ya versi upmarket dari S klasse. :mrgreen:

Yang ane heran, ada brand yang sama2 'antah-berantah' nya, sesama zombie bangkit dari kubur, dalam artian udah terputus ama heritage dan hegemoni masa lalunya, kok bisa sukses komersial ya?

Bugatti, yang ane maksud. Mungkin orang VW jauh lebih jago jualan ketimbang Mercs? Mungkin secara engineering dia nawarin sesuatu yang fresh? Kagak juga ya. :e-think:

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Maybach bukan brand antah berantah :p

Bugatti design kuat, teknis kuat (fastest supercar). Rolls Royce Phantom juga platform Seri 7 kok...tapi gak ketahuan dr luar...laku2 aja.

Ini sih salah MB, setengah2 main di segmen yg gak boleh setengah2...masa pake platform S Class uzur...yg bener aje...
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Menjelang bangkrut malah naikin harga (walaupun cuman 1%), :shrug:

modelnya itu2 aja.. harganya mahal.. :off_bored:

good bye! :mky_03:

...benernya sih pernah kpengen punya :big_slap:
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FortunerMan wrote:Maybach bukan brand antah berantah :p

Bugatti design kuat, teknis kuat (fastest supercar). Rolls Royce Phantom juga platform Seri 7 kok...tapi gak ketahuan dr luar...laku2 aja.

Ini sih salah MB, setengah2 main di segmen yg gak boleh setengah2...masa pake platform S Class uzur...yg bener aje...
kalau dari pandangan saya, Maybach 57 / 62 bentuk siluetnya mirip S-Class W221.
beda dengan RR yg pakai platform seri-7 tapi siluet bentuknya samasekali lain dgn 740iL misalnya.
atau Bentley Flying Spur yg berbasis platform VW Phaeton (dan komponen mesin bnyk kesamaan dg Audi A8) tapi bentuknya lain samasekali.
CMIIW.

bayar dobel dari S-Class (utk Maybach), tapi dapetnya mobil yg mirip (plus platform ketinggalan zaman).
jadi saya setuju, Daimler AG setengah2, dan harus dibayar mahal... :big_smoking:
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Betul....masih keliatan nyolong partnya dr mana...tapi harga selangit.
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FortunerMan wrote:Maybach bukan brand antah berantah :p

Bugatti design kuat, teknis kuat (fastest supercar). Rolls Royce Phantom juga platform Seri 7 kok...tapi gak ketahuan dr luar...laku2 aja.

Ini sih salah MB, setengah2 main di segmen yg gak boleh setengah2...masa pake platform S Class uzur...yg bener aje...
Soal 'antah-berantah', ya taulah ane bro hehe.. Kan ane cukup 'ngerti dikit' soal sejarah mobil2 klasik luxury jadul. Maksud ane, antah berantah karena tiba2 muncul bangkit lagi, 'resurrected' as I mentioned, setelah hiatus lama, persis Bugatti.

Kalo platform uzur tapi 'kulit dan mesinnya' dibagusin kan gakpapa bro? Ane susah ngerti sebenernya kok Maybach ini bisa gak laku.

Mungkin ya karena yang udah sedikit dijelasin ama rekan lain ya, tampangnya beti ama S klasse, tapi harga beda jauh, dapet S klasse versi lux. Kek gak niat gitu. :wkkk:
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Nightster Guy wrote:Nggak selamanya orang kaya itu 'bodoh' :mrgreen: Asal brand lux mahal plus personal concierge services langsung disikat.

Terbuai legacy masa lalu yang uda terkubur puluhan taun. Resurrected. Judulnya ya versi upmarket dari S klasse. :mrgreen:

Yang ane heran, ada brand yang sama2 'antah-berantah' nya, sesama zombie bangkit dari kubur, dalam artian udah terputus ama heritage dan hegemoni masa lalunya, kok bisa sukses komersial ya?

Bugatti, yang ane maksud. Mungkin orang VW jauh lebih jago jualan ketimbang Mercs? Mungkin secara engineering dia nawarin sesuatu yang fresh? Kagak juga ya. :e-think:

Any thoughts?
VW group itu jagoan dalam diversifikasi brand dia.
Kalo kita liat maybach, kesannya buatnya dibuat terburu2, kalo liat interiornya aja lgs keliatan itu adalah 'glorified mercedes'. Semuanya sampe ke mesin2 cuma mercedes yg dipermewah sedikit. Mesin juga plek punya mercy dikasih bi-turbo dan dituning doang. Masuk ke maybach aromanya ga jauh sama mercedes.
Kita liat Bugatti, vw gak main2 waktu research untuk buat veyron. Mesin W16, 1000ps, 400an km/h. It is engineering feat. Mau ntarnya disusul gak apa, yg penting udah pernah jadi mobil tercepat dan pasti diingat orang. Kata CEOnya juga mereka ga fokus cari profit dulu, yg penting mereka 'put the brand on the map first'.
Liat lagi Bentley, line up continental itu satu platform sama VW Phaeton, tapi kalo kita liat interiornya ga ada mirip2nya kecuali steering wheel (yg versi facelift udah dibedain juga) sama sat nav aja. Ini baru continental, kalo liat flagshipnya, mulsanne, bener2 jauh beda tuh sama vw-audi. Yg sama electricalnya aja, tapi masuk ke bentley ga ada kesan masuk ke audi a8 misalnya.
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Kemaren tes kebut Aventador vs Veyron....masih menang aja si Veyron....sakit jiwa...
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mklasse wrote:
Nightster Guy wrote:Nggak selamanya orang kaya itu 'bodoh' :mrgreen: Asal brand lux mahal plus personal concierge services langsung disikat.

Terbuai legacy masa lalu yang uda terkubur puluhan taun. Resurrected. Judulnya ya versi upmarket dari S klasse. :mrgreen:

Yang ane heran, ada brand yang sama2 'antah-berantah' nya, sesama zombie bangkit dari kubur, dalam artian udah terputus ama heritage dan hegemoni masa lalunya, kok bisa sukses komersial ya?

Bugatti, yang ane maksud. Mungkin orang VW jauh lebih jago jualan ketimbang Mercs? Mungkin secara engineering dia nawarin sesuatu yang fresh? Kagak juga ya. :e-think:

Any thoughts?
VW group itu jagoan dalam diversifikasi brand dia.
Kalo kita liat maybach, kesannya buatnya dibuat terburu2, kalo liat interiornya aja lgs keliatan itu adalah 'glorified mercedes'. Semuanya sampe ke mesin2 cuma mercedes yg dipermewah sedikit. Mesin juga plek punya mercy dikasih bi-turbo dan dituning doang. Masuk ke maybach aromanya ga jauh sama mercedes.
Kita liat Bugatti, vw gak main2 waktu research untuk buat veyron. Mesin W16, 1000ps, 400an km/h. It is engineering feat. Mau ntarnya disusul gak apa, yg penting udah pernah jadi mobil tercepat dan pasti diingat orang. Kata CEOnya juga mereka ga fokus cari profit dulu, yg penting mereka 'put the brand on the map first'.
Liat lagi Bentley, line up continental itu satu platform sama VW Phaeton, tapi kalo kita liat interiornya ga ada mirip2nya kecuali steering wheel (yg versi facelift udah dibedain juga) sama sat nav aja. Ini baru continental, kalo liat flagshipnya, mulsanne, bener2 jauh beda tuh sama vw-audi. Yg sama electricalnya aja, tapi masuk ke bentley ga ada kesan masuk ke audi a8 misalnya.
kalo kata orang bangladesh, mereka ngerti ngebuat mobil sesuai dengan sejarahnya.... gak kek mercy yang gak tahu sejarah... ckckckck.... :e-snooty:

*gear shift down... full throttle sebelum pantat ane dicipok mercy lover gay.... :ngacir:
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Ngebayangin naik Maybach Landaulet sambil atap belakangnya dibuka di jalanan pinggir pantai, tapi bukan di jalur pantura atau pantai selatan.....duuh....
Tapi klo di Jakarta pasti macet ama panasnya menyiksa....
Oh iya, pernah denger sih ada Rolls-Royce yang berbagi platform ama Bentley? Mereka kan beda grup ya?
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valentina_oye wrote:Ngebayangin naik Maybach Landaulet sambil atap belakangnya dibuka di jalanan pinggir pantai, tapi bukan di jalur pantura atau pantai selatan.....duuh....
Tapi klo di Jakarta pasti macet ama panasnya menyiksa....
Oh iya, pernah denger sih ada Rolls-Royce yang berbagi platform ama Bentley? Mereka kan beda grup ya?
Pernah dalam satu masa (yang panjang), Bentley dimiliki oleh Rolls Royce, jadi body2nya sama, cuma beda dikit2 di grille dan mesin. Rolls royce untuk versi mewah, Bentley untuk versi "sport".
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FortunerMan wrote:Maybach bukan brand antah berantah :p

Bugatti design kuat, teknis kuat (fastest supercar). Rolls Royce Phantom juga platform Seri 7 kok...tapi gak ketahuan dr luar...laku2 aja.

Ini sih salah MB, setengah2 main di segmen yg gak boleh setengah2...masa pake platform S Class uzur...yg bener aje...
kira2 knp ya kok wkt itu MB "memutuskan" utk setengah2 di MM ?
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mklasse wrote: Pernah dalam satu masa (yang panjang), Bentley dimiliki oleh Rolls Royce, jadi body2nya sama, cuma beda dikit2 di grille dan mesin. Rolls royce untuk versi mewah, Bentley untuk versi "sport".
Sejak ribut2 rebutan BMW vs VW berakir taun 2000an, setau ane mulai saat itulah RR vs Bentley menempuh jalan idup yang berbeda. RR ikut papa, Bentley ikut mama. cmiiw.

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andy1800 wrote:kira2 knp ya kok wkt itu MB "memutuskan" utk setengah2 di MM ?
Mungkin terlalu pede ama nama Mercedes dan terlalu overestimated pada hegemoni masa lalu Maybach, om. :)
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OOT:
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Setuju sama pendapat2 di atas. MB memang setengah2 dalam ikuttan pasar super mewah ini (platform S class lama, model mirip2 W220), maka kalah bersaing dengan RR dan Bentley.
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Nightster Guy wrote:
mklasse wrote: Pernah dalam satu masa (yang panjang), Bentley dimiliki oleh Rolls Royce, jadi body2nya sama, cuma beda dikit2 di grille dan mesin. Rolls royce untuk versi mewah, Bentley untuk versi "sport".
Sejak ribut2 rebutan BMW vs VW berakir taun 2000an, setau ane mulai saat itulah RR vs Bentley menempuh jalan idup yang berbeda. RR ikut papa, Bentley ikut mama. cmiiw.
Yg papah mana, yg mama mana Om.... :mky_02:
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finally Maybach game over :e-snooty:
sudah denger rumor nya sejak tahun 2010, apalagi sales nya memang terus drop dari tahun ke tahun
kalah telak dengan Rolls Royce dan Bentley
memang lebih baik MB akuisisi salah satu dari brand itu, tapi sayangnya kalah tanggap dengan BMW dan VW saat industri otomotif Inggris pada megap megap di era 90 an.
BMW sendiri langsung borongan akuisisi RR + Bentley (1998 ditake over VW), MINI dan Rover (dijual lagi ke Ford taon 2000)
dimana untuk yang 2 terakhir itu BMW sempat gebuk gebukan dengan Honda :mky_03:
sementara MB akhirnya malah bangkitkan brand Maybach dari kubur dan sekarang masuk kubur lagi :mky_06:
Maybach Exelero, itu mobil paling mahal di dunia
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Maybach Exelero n Bugatti Veyron itu bentuknya ga begitu bagus menurut saya. Maybach depannya kayak mobil modifan, Bugatti bulet gendut...klo boleh milih sih lebih suka bentuknya Lamborghini atau Ferrari....
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ane paling demen porsche dah.... gak ada matinye.... :e-pray:
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maybach yes maybach no.... mobil ga jelas.. mw bikin mewah, tp mb sendiri ga mau tersaingi, jd serba salah.... :mky_03:
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Maybach is dead ... and who cares ???
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maskopat wrote:ane paling demen porsche dah.... gak ada matinye.... :e-pray:


second that :off_good_job:
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FortunerMan wrote:Kemaren tes kebut Aventador vs Veyron....masih menang aja si Veyron....sakit jiwa...
dari specnya aja udah jauh ketinggalan si aventador

Veyron: 8000cc, 16 silinder, 4 turbo, dual clutch AWD (radiatornya aja ada 10 hehe....)
Aventador: 6500cc, 12 silinder, naturally aspirated, single clutch AWD.