2012 Honda CR-V - PART 01

Segala mobil tipe SUV (2WD/4WD). (Cherokee, Terios, Rush, dll).

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weh itumah mungkin lagi hoki dia om :wkkk: :wkkk:
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Go...sapa bilang kuatan xtrail dibanding crv?sama2 aja lah...palagi nyang 2wd nya....
Kalau GC iya..tinggian xtrail dikit...:)

*balik ke sudut ngopi*...
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FortunerMan wrote:Liatnya G Class yg lama kali thn 80an 90an...ini mobil kan udah dr tahun kuda gigit besi adanya. Trus di tempel emblem G550 wkwkwkwk...kaya seri 5 ditempel logo M5
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AD74YA wrote:- CUT -

Wooden panel tetap pada tempatnya, begitu juga dengan navigasi, tapi kursinya bukan kulit, melainkan fabric, dan doortrimnya juga... warnanya abu2 dashboard... Nuansanya sangat kaku dan tidak ergonomis.. Celah panel nggak rapi, pintu untuk nutup harus dibanting dengan kekuatan ekstra... dan audio Harman Kardon yang suaranya kalah besar sama suara mesin.. :big_weee:

Sayang ane cuman liat dengan kondisi diam.. Sekilas penilaian ane, G class adalah real SUV... Mature, dan diciptakan khusus melahan medan berat.. tapi dengan harga seharga Escalade, would I buy one?... Buat ane pribadi yang maenannya wilayah perkotaan... uang segitu banyak mendingan dihabiskan ke luxury... maybe better ambil Escalade atau Lincoln Navigator....

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Mmmmmm..

Keknya yang W463 jadul yang diliat, mods.. Dari ciri fabric itu :big_peace:
Tapi setuju, memang beda (banget, mungkin) kapabilitas G klasse versus Caddy Lincoln kalo harus ngelahap medan oprud.
FortunerMan wrote:Liatnya G Class yg lama kali thn 80an 90an...ini mobil kan udah dr tahun kuda gigit besi adanya. Trus di tempel emblem G550 wkwkwkwk...kaya seri 5 ditempel logo M5
W463 G550 = versi standar, bro, bukan versi kompetisinya. So, bila dianalogikan dengan seri 5 (versi standar) ditempelin logo M5 (versi kompetisi) bagi newbie agak kurang pas.. :)
kalau dari ilmu yang ane terima, 463 yang keluar dari tahun 2010 yang standard wooden panelnya.. Sedangkan leather itu optional... Untuk jenis pelapis interior and upholdstery nya ada tingkatan, basic (fabric), leather, leather with special trimming untuk doortrimnya (ada motif)...

cMIIW... Pengetahuan ane dangkal... Karena unit yg ane lihat G550 463 rangka 2010..
ZombiEE wrote:Go...sapa bilang kuatan xtrail dibanding crv?sama2 aja lah...palagi nyang 2wd nya....
Kalau GC iya..tinggian xtrail dikit...:)

*balik ke sudut ngopi*...
ya jem... Kalau berdasar jenis chassis yang diajarkan pak psikopat, logic nya lebih kuat.. But as I say.. Sama2 useless uwakakakakak.... Cmiiw
Anda sudah TEST DRIVE belum?...
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AD74YA wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Go...sapa bilang kuatan xtrail dibanding crv?sama2 aja lah...palagi nyang 2wd nya....
Kalau GC iya..tinggian xtrail dikit...:)

*balik ke sudut ngopi*...
ya jem... Kalau berdasar jenis chassis yang diajarkan pak psikopat, logic nya lebih kuat.. But as I say.. Sama2 useless uwakakakakak.... Cmiiw
maksudnya apa nih? xtrail lebih kuat daripada CRV? koq ane lupa ya? :e-think:
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Kayanya ane salah tempat posting tadi..uwkwkwkw...
Saya rasa 11-12 pat....kuat apa ngak jg ga bisa tau...tpi kalo sistem 4wd emg lebih ampuh punya xtrail.....cmiiw
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maskopat wrote:
AD74YA wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Go...sapa bilang kuatan xtrail dibanding crv?sama2 aja lah...palagi nyang 2wd nya....
Kalau GC iya..tinggian xtrail dikit...:)

*balik ke sudut ngopi*...
ya jem... Kalau berdasar jenis chassis yang diajarkan pak psikopat, logic nya lebih kuat.. But as I say.. Sama2 useless uwakakakakak.... Cmiiw
maksudnya apa nih? xtrail lebih kuat daripada CRV? koq ane lupa ya? :e-think:
Itu lhor.... Pelajaran ente tentang sub frame...... Hehehehe
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ow... sub frame itu bukan bikin jadi lebih kuat om... tapi lebih nyaman dan tidak berisik di body... cmiiw... :ungg:
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Nanya....

Rada bawel.. Maklum setres gak kawin2.. (gan curcol jangan disini! :big_peace: )..
Subframe itu apa yang contoh pnerapan kek gini y, ini di mobil jadul 70an, Holden, yang terkenal super nyaman.. (sepotong chassis ditempelin ke body monocoque..)

Subframe = warna oranye, sepotong doang dari depan sampe tengah.. Body monocoque..

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@mahluk malam: ada gambar lengkapnya gak om? itu keterangan yang orange ke potong... :e-think:
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maskopat wrote:@mahluk malam: ada gambar lengkapnya gak om? itu keterangan yang orange ke potong... :e-think:
Siap!

Gak ngerti cara merging foto hehe.. Nih cutout pantat si Holden..

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mungkin yang orange itu sub frame nya om.. :e-think:
tapi ane kurang jelas, yang orange itu nempel ke mana? :e-think:
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maskopat wrote:mungkin yang orange itu sub frame nya om.. :e-think:
tapi ane kurang jelas, yang orange itu nempel ke mana? :e-think:
Persis mobil berladder yang lain, bro, nempel ke floorpan/lantai juga via perantaraan bushing2 juga, persis dah.. bedanya dia cuman sepotong dri depan ke tengah..

Gak da yang punya cutout X-Trail y? Pengen compare.. :)
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ZombiEE wrote:G-klasse pernah ditabrak kereta api dr samping di kota ane.....kejadiannya 10 tahun yg lalu klo ndak salah ingat....hasilnya cuman pintu saja reot...tp masih bisa dibuka......gila dah...ntah nasib penumpangnya lg hoki atau mobilnya yang kuat....
Mungkin kl apanja uda terbang ya jemb......... :big_slap: :big_weee: :big_weee:
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ak4ng wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:G-klasse pernah ditabrak kereta api dr samping di kota ane.....kejadiannya 10 tahun yg lalu klo ndak salah ingat....hasilnya cuman pintu saja reot...tp masih bisa dibuka......gila dah...ntah nasib penumpangnya lg hoki atau mobilnya yang kuat....
Mungkin kl apanja uda terbang ya jemb......... :big_slap: :big_weee: :big_weee:

G class produk spesial kang , 30 % robot 70 % hand made makanya harganya mahal karena rakitnya lebih lama dari yg 90 % robot :ungg:
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solar_kerosen wrote:
ak4ng wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:G-klasse pernah ditabrak kereta api dr samping di kota ane.....kejadiannya 10 tahun yg lalu klo ndak salah ingat....hasilnya cuman pintu saja reot...tp masih bisa dibuka......gila dah...ntah nasib penumpangnya lg hoki atau mobilnya yang kuat....
Mungkin kl apanja uda terbang ya jemb......... :big_slap: :big_weee: :big_weee:

G class produk spesial kang , 30 % robot 70 % hand made makanya harganya mahal karena rakitnya lebih lama dari yg 90 % robot :ungg:
Ea ya... Tp Angkot indonesia 80% hand made lho... Price by order...... Lbih mewah ya.....
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Nightster Guy wrote:Dasar si ak4ng.. :p
Gapapa, SUV versi si Honda lah k4ng.. :big_peace:
Bagi pengexplore sjati SUV, palagi yang kolot kayak saya (baca: kuno, orang jadul gak ngerti kmajuan jaman, etc.) jelas sama skali gak masuk hitungan si CRV ini.. :)
'Coz ni merk memang sama skali gak pernah bikin mobil macho.. Imagenya jauuuuuuuuuuuuh dari sgala yang berbau medan tanah.

'SUV' kota lah k4ng, skedar untuk ngelewatin lubang2 ala jalanan Jakarta tanpa takut mentok. Selera masing2lah.. Scara engineering, Honda (pernah) wan of de bes di dunia.. Saya objective.
subjektif pribadi : kalo suruh memilih antara Daihatsu Hiline SW 4x4 (SUV Tulen) dng CRV......jelas2 memilih CRV.... :big_weee: :big_weee:
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Nightster Guy wrote:Bagi pengexplore sjati SUV, palagi yang kolot kayak saya (baca: kuno, orang jadul gak ngerti kmajuan jaman, etc.) jelas sama skali gak masuk hitungan si CRV ini.. :)
'Coz ni merk memang sama skali gak pernah bikin mobil macho.. Imagenya jauuuuuuuuuuuuh dari sgala yang berbau medan tanah.
Pernah kok, Honda Ridgeline

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Honda's 4WD traction system

The Ridgeline is powered by a transversely mounted J35A91, (2006–2008) J35Z5, (2009-present) 3.5 L V6 with a five speed automatic transmission.

The all-wheel drive system operates in front-wheel drive mode under normal conditions and automatically transfers power to either rear wheel via a locking differential when it senses a loss of traction in the front. The VTM-4 system can be locked in first, second or reverse gears at speeds under 18 mph (29 km/h).

The VTM-4 lock (rear diff lock) works in full rear power mode up until 6 mph (9.7 km/h) then it gradually transitions to power to the front and releases the VTM-4 lock at 18 mph (29 km/h)

The all-wheel drive system has been tested on and has completed the following obstacle course by Honda engineers: 28-degree dirt hill, Sand hill, Water pit, Rock roads, Embedded log course, Step-up, step-down, Sand drag strip, Gully course, Ground contact course, Washboard road, Frame twister, Power hop hill (23-degree slope with rippled surface), Gravel road, Startable grade.

The Honda Ridgeline Won the Baja 1000 in the Stock Mini Class. All vehicles in the Stock Mini Class compete with a stock engine, transmission and 4WD system.

Awards
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Motor Trend truck of the year 2006
North American Truck of the year 2006
Detroit News truck of the year 2006
Consumer Reports top rated truck
J.D. Power & Associates 2005 APEAL award for the Honda Ridgeline
Autobytel 2006 Editors' Choice Award: Truck of the year 2006
Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) Best New Pickup 2006
On Wheels Incorporated: Ridgeline 2006 Urban Wheel Award for the Urban Truck of the Year
Strategic Vision's coveted "Most Delightful" compact pickup award
Best rollover resistance rating of any pickup tested by the National Highway Traffic Safety, Administration (NHTSA)
First-ever 4-door pickup to earn a 5-star safety rating for both front and side impact crash, test performance from the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Society of Plastic Engineers 2005 Grand Award (composite embed trunk)
Car And Driver Rates Honda Ridgeline #1 Pickup, AutoWeek Editors' Choice Award as the 'Most Significant' new vehicle in the show
Maxim Truck Of The Year 2006
2007 Automobile Magazine All Star award Top 10 cars for 2007
SUV nya ada juga Honda Pilot

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Off-road capability

The Honda Pilot has a capable off-road system which comprises three individual systems: the Variable Torque Management four-wheel drive system with locking differential, Hill Start Assist Control system and Grade Logic Control system.

The 4WD utilizes a unique Variable Torque Management four-wheel-drive system which automatically engages when the system senses loss of traction. The system has a manually locking rear differential which can also be engaged by the driver (when vehicle is in first, second, or reverse gears) and will stay engaged up to 18 MPH, or is shifted from aforementioned gears, then unlocks and reverts back to the automatic engaging.

The Pilot also has a Hill Start Assist system which maintains brake pressure when the brake pedal is released, giving the driver time to engage the accelerator. The Pilot also uses a Grade Logic System which holds the engine in a lower gear when on steep inclines for better hill-climbing torque and increased engine braking when going down steep inclines.

The Pilot also has a Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) which constantly monitors tire pressure and alerts the driver if there is any significant pressure loss in any tire and indicates which tire or tires has lower pressure.

The second-generation Pilot's four-wheel drive system enables it to wade through 19 inches of water
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jalu wrote:- CUT -

subjektif pribadi : kalo suruh memilih antara Daihatsu Hiline SW 4x4 (SUV Tulen) dng CRV......jelas2 memilih CRV.... :big_weee: :big_weee:
Hehehe....

Beri saya pilihan SUV sjati yang harganya di range CRV, bro.. :)
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FortunerMan wrote:
Nightster Guy wrote:Bagi pengexplore sjati SUV, palagi yang kolot kayak saya (baca: kuno, orang jadul gak ngerti kmajuan jaman, etc.) jelas sama skali gak masuk hitungan si CRV ini.. :)
'Coz ni merk memang sama skali gak pernah bikin mobil macho.. Imagenya jauuuuuuuuuuuuh dari sgala yang berbau medan tanah.
Pernah kok, Honda Ridgeline

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Ini yang saya tunggu2.. :)

Baru om FM yang 'nyamber' statement saya, bahwa Honda gak pernah bikin mobil macho..

Maaf bro, kita beda perspektif nampaknya.
Saya TAU PASTI bahwa Honda Ridgeline akan jadi 'contoh kasus' bagi pihak2 yang akan mengcounter statement saya :) , so saya udah lama siap dengan jawabannya, 'coz udah pernah menghadapi counter statement yang sama persis di tempat lain..

Beda perspektif gimana?
Ridgeline bukan mobil macho soalnya, bagi saya. Transverse, FWD pula kondisi normal. Berasa sedan banget. Monggo diliat postingan2 saya sblomnya (keknya di trid ini), yang nyatain bahwa saya stick ke 4x4 or RWD (otomatis enjinnya longitudinal mounted) yang berladder frame karena 'rasa JIP nya lebih dapet', bro.. Simply as that.

Gimana critanya bahwa mobil 4x4 (RWD dalam kondisi normal) pake ladder lalu 'rasa jip nya lebih dapet'?
Karena jip pada mulanya diciptakan demikian adanya. 4x4, RWD kondisi normal, enjin membujur, ladder frame, titik. Dan di mobil2 seperti itulah saya mengenal dunia mobil saat SD: CJ-7, Landy III dan 110, FJ40 dan F50RV.. :frm_tumbleft:

Good point, om FM.. :off_good_job:
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Memang beda perspektif - karena memang tidak ada aturan (kecuali preference masing2 individu aja alias bikin aturan sendiri) "mobil macho" itu apa :mrgreen: Tapi "jauuuuuuuuuuuuh" dari medan tanah kurang tepat - karena Ridgeline maupun Pilot mampu bermain tanah.

Honda Ridgeline in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2duqpnDBXg

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Lawakan aja - Jeep Wrangler yg di Indonesia dianggep macho abis...di Amerika malah jadi salah satu "simbol" kaum hombreng. Nothing against gays..tapi untuk ilustrasi aja :mrgreen:
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FortunerMan wrote:Memang beda perspektif - karena memang tidak ada aturan (kecuali preference masing2 individu aja alias bikin aturan sendiri) "mobil macho" itu apa :mrgreen: Tapi "jauuuuuuuuuuuuh" dari medan tanah kurang tepat - karena Ridgeline maupun Pilot mampu bermain tanah.

- CUT -

Lawakan aja - Jeep Wrangler yg di Indonesia dianggep macho abis...di Amerika malah jadi salah satu "simbol" kaum hombreng. Nothing against gays..tapi untuk ilustrasi aja :mrgreen:
Wetzzzz....

Statement utuh saya jangan dipotong, om. Saya bilang 'IMAGENYA (means Honda) jauuuuuuuuh dari yang berbau tanah. IMAGE HONDA = scara kseluruhan donk, ngerti kan om? :big_peace:

JELAS, tidak ada yang brani mengasosiasikan Honda dengan kegiatan off-roading. :mrgreen:
Perkara Ridgeline mampu main tanah, yup, so what, no big deal. Hanya karena dia bikin sebiji dua biji SUV tidak serta merta bikin Honda jadi merk jaminan jagoan medan tanah.

Sama kasus, karena bikin sebiji dua biji mobil 'mewah', apa Hyundai (maaf..) jadi icon mobil mewah? TIDAK.

Image dan status legenda hanya bisa didapat dan dibayar via reputasi DAN RENTANG WAKTU LAMA. Itu yang udah dibuktikan dan didapat oleh Jeep, Landy, Toyota LC series, Mercs G klasse, Mitsu Pajero, dll sbagian kecil merk/tipe jip sejati, but, ABSOLUTELY NOT HONDA hehehehe.... hanya karena uda bikin Ridgeline dan hanya karena Ridgeline mampu 'main tanah', oms.. IMAGE nya Honda tetap mobil buat jalan muyussss..

Soal Wrangler, udah lama denger, dan yah, joke hanya tinggal sbatas joke.. :mrgreen:
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Setuju...... Bgt sm om NG.... G ad jip yg basicnya fwd..... HHaha...
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FortunerMan wrote:Memang beda perspektif - karena memang tidak ada aturan (kecuali preference masing2 individu aja alias bikin aturan sendiri) "mobil macho" itu apa :mrgreen: Tapi "jauuuuuuuuuuuuh" dari medan tanah kurang tepat - karena Ridgeline maupun Pilot mampu bermain tanah.

Honda Ridgeline in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2duqpnDBXg

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Lawakan aja - Jeep Wrangler yg di Indonesia dianggep macho abis...di Amerika malah jadi salah satu "simbol" kaum hombreng. Nothing against gays..tapi untuk ilustrasi aja :mrgreen:
Yupp, setuju om.

Pada akhirnya semua juga kembali ke selera & fanatisme merk tertentu.
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Tadi katanya gak pernah bikin mobil macho...kok ganti jadi image legenda :mrgreen: Yg anda bilang Honda tidak pernah bikin mobil "macho". Image macho setiap orang bisa berbeda, tidak harus 4x4 ladder frame RWD. Kenceng dan jagoan balapan bisa juga diartikan image macho.
Nightster Guy wrote:'Coz ni merk memang sama skali gak pernah bikin mobil macho..
Harusnya statement anda "Honda tidak pernah bikin mobil macho menurut kriteria khusus saya" :mrgreen: Kalo "Honda sama skali gak pernah bikin mobil macho (titik)"...berarti pake kriteria umum aja. Macho = punya karakter tough/tahan banting/gahar. Honda pernah bikin mobil tough/tahan banting/gahar.

Kalo cuman pake kriteria "macho" anda yg sempit ya silahkan saja. Mau anda bilang macho = tampangnya kaya Hello Kitty, silahkan :mrgreen:

Tapi kalo mobil "macho" dalam arti umum, Honda pernah dan cukup jago bikinnya.
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FortunerMan wrote:Tadi katanya image macho...kok ganti jadi image legenda :mrgreen: Yg anda bilang Honda tidak pernah bikin mobil "macho". Image macho setiap orang bisa berbeda, tidak harus 4x4 ladder frame. Kenceng dan jagoan balapan bisa juga diartikan image macho. Sama aja bilang - Toyota gak pernah bikin mobil "keren". Keren menurut siapa?
Image DAN status legenda, oms.. :mrgreen:
Yup berbeda bagi tiap orang, kan saya udah jelasin.... :p
Bagi saya untuk dapet 'rasa jip nya' baru bisa didapet dengan 4x4 RWD bukan FWD (ala sedan kompak), mesin membujur bukan melintang (ala sedan kompak), gearbox di bawah kabin, berladder frame. Titik hehehe..
FortunerMan wrote:Harusnya statement anda "Honda tidak pernah bikin mobil macho kriteria khusus saya" :mrgreen: Kalo "Honda tidak pernah bikin mobil macho (titik)"...berarti pake kriteria umum aja. Macho = punya karakter tough/tahan banting/gahar. Honda pernah bikin mobil tough/tahan banting/gahar.
Klupaan deh, tar tiap statement saya bubuhin 'IMO' dan IMHO'.. :mrgreen:
Yang tough/tahan banting/'gahar' yang mana y om? Ridgeline? Ow, pembuktian reputasinya via sebiji dua biji video at Utube tadi? :mrgreen:
FortunerMan wrote:Kalo cuman pake kriteria "macho" anda yg sempit ya silahkan saja. Mau anda bilang macho = tampangnya kaya Hello Kitty, silahkan :mrgreen:

Tapi kalo mobil "macho" dalam arti umum, Honda pernah dan bisa dan cukup jago bikinnya
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Pernah dan bisa, yup. Wonk ada ujudnya.
Cukup jago (bikin mobil 'macho'), errrrrrr, mungkin.. 'Coz sebiji dua biji video Ridgeline main tanah di Utube sama skali BELUM pembuktian.. :mrgreen:

Honda = macho dalam arti umum dan secara image, NOPE, BAGI SAYA.. :big_peace:

Honda = Jagoan balap F1 (dulu) = macho. Juga jagoan bikin mobil jalanan kenceng = macho. Silakan.. Opini personal masing2. :)
Das Beste oder nichts.