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ehhh koreksi...........beda nya 20 kilo ding :upss: :upss:
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selaen soal berat... di city Z itu ada racikan special di suspensi nya om... depan blakang uda pake stabilizer... suspensi independen di 4 roda... blom lagi output mesin dll... makanya cityZ termasuk kategori yg "superior" di kelas nya waktu jaman tsb... harga nya pun jg plg "superior"... lah temen2 nya masi 140-160an jt... dia uda 170-180 jt... itu taon 2000an awal lohh....
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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kaki2 sama lahhhh..........
klo output mesin emang beda sih
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emang baenol om dog gmana suspensi depan blakangnya...

kalo output mesin emang seh om.. itu D15B kayanya uda mesin terakhir honda utk kelas 1500cc yg masi pure vtec... masi mempunyai gen enjin "honda" yg seharus nya.... yg skrg punya sehh ane liat vtec banci itu... sensasi vtec nya ga mantap...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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sama aja independen klep, depan-belakang...........cuman kalo yg belakang minus nya ga bisa setel camber aja :ungg:
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yaa meibi budget under 100.... makanya cari yg skitar 70-90an lah... stidak2nya bisa ada budget bwat kerjain PR.... tinggal menabung lagi bwt maenan modif ringan... sekedar bisa "good looking" ajah sih...


nah itu dia... kalo piara mobil yang manja banget agak repot...

emg piara clan Mitsu repot banget kah? soalnya dari dulu mobil jepun paling minat sama Mitsu sih... entah kenapa liat performa mesinya bikin jatuh hatiii :ungg:

tapi gara2 dikasih masukan tentang cityZ akirnya saya jadikan referensi juga... bnyk yg bilang tarikan enak handling enak... mesin pun enak

tp sbenernya msh prefer ke CK4 yg SEI yg taun 2000an kalo g salah... sama galant hiu...

cuman banyak yg kompor2in: buat apa? boros stengah mati... perawatannya susah... spare part mahal bla bla bla... karena saya nubie makanya cari review2 dari para senior agar lebih tau kepastianya...

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CK4 vs Galant Hiu
well, sebener nya ini mobil beda kelas........yg satu small sedan satu nya lg medium. Udah pasti perawatan juga berbeda, apalagi cc kedua nya jg beda jauh otomatis konsumsi bbm perpengaruh disini. Kenyamanan megang si hiu deh..........
*ini pakar2 mitsu pada ngilang kemana seh? :e-think:
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Menunggu titik terang dari para sesepuh.... :ungg:
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lbih bagus galant hiu lha............. v6 2.4L....... gas ditowel aja langsung ngacirrr........
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Numpang....

Imagenya kerenan Lancer lah gan kmana2 dibanding City. Ini kalo juga mentingin image y? Kalah taun, tapi level Lancer di stratanya Civic, above City.. :)
Plus 'bau wangi' legenda dinasti Evolution yang pnampakannya 11-13 masih mlekat pada Lancer era ini..

Palagi kalo imagenya Galant..
Cumaaaa, y banyak skalilah faktor lain di luar 'image' yang perlu dipertimbangkan seblom ekse, tul bro?

Monggo, pakar2 nambahin, seblom panta* ane ditendang dari panggung postingan ini..
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City pake double wishbone ya om DOHC? kalo ntu sih emang rasanya beda ama yang Mc pherson, walopun sama2 independen. Teorinya sih, lebih ngegrip ke jalan. nyari grip ke aspalnya lebih luwes. Mer-C E class kayanya juga pake model ntu deh..
Kaga enaknya, yaa itu.... Part suspensi lebih kompleks, banyak sambungan, dan banyak part. Kemungkinan kalo rusak lebih mahall.

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baidewei, L300 ama Kijang LGX juga pake suspensi Doble wishbone loh...
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satu lg yg perlu diinget, baik galant hiu-CK4-cityZ itu rata2 sekarang merupakan mobil "capek", maksud nya udah bukan rahasia lagi klo umum nya para pemakai sedan2 ini merupakan "speed lover" (maka nya banyak yg nyari khan?), udah modif ini-itu ganti bla bla bla..............

jadi sebaik nya lebih teliti lagi nyari nya dan super sabar saat hunting biar bisa nemu barang yg kedepan nya ga mengecewakan gara2 kebagian ga enak nya.
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Bener, mods..

Temen lagi nyari GTI (kodenya apa y? CB5? Maap buta kode2 Mitsu), rata2 uda diobok2, palagi di Surabaya sini gak banyak unit GTI for sale.. Uda 3 bulan nyari CB5 yang masih blom digrepe2, sampe capek..
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iya sih... saya termasuk speed lover meskipun belom pernah jajal nge "speed" pake mobil... slama ni obok2 motor satria ane doank... speedo udh mentok njedok 160 msh belom abis nafasnye... hahaha

tp kalo mobil yaaa tergantung mood lah... maen nyante ajah apalagi wkt bawa cewe... hahaha

pkknya cari mobil anak muda yg keren lah... makanya gw prefer mitsubishi... secara emang mobil jepun sukanya mitsu entah kenapa...

kurang tertarik sama CB5... ketuaan katanyaa hahaha... btw... CK4 itu kira2 bbmnya brapa bandin brp ya? kalo galant??

iya boss.... huntingnya nyante koq... target taon ini... kalo belom nemu yg cocok ya sampe taun depan gpp pkknya kan dapet yang pas Hati.. itung2 skalian nabung bwt tambah2 budget.... :ungg:
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ni... cocok bgt buat anak muda yg seneng speed..............
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ak4ng wrote:ni... cocok bgt buat anak muda yg seneng speed..............
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Astaga..

Saya salah liat, ato emang spionnya gaya Beemers M3 y (??), vernekel pula..
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copotan kali..... banyak tu di banceuy....... murah2 lg... asli bmw....
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ak4ng wrote:lbih bagus galant hiu lha............. v6 2.4L....... gas ditowel aja langsung ngacirrr........
2.5L.... :big_weee:
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kriterianya apa nih? cuman kenceng aja?
rute yang bakal sering dilalui seperti apa?
harus matik atau tidak?
budget eksekusi 70jt, spare 30jt... bagus nih...

bener yang om doq bilang, mitsu rata2 mobil cape om.. cari yang teliti. kalo emang niat cari bahan, ambil bener2 yang bahan. tawar habis2an. habis itu restorasi bangun lagi. ini kalo emang suka ngebangun mobil.
part body mungkin sudah rada susah carinya. part mesin emang mahal, susah cari KW murah..
kalo cari KW mahal yang di atas ori, banjir om.
mau modif kenceng, part2 kompetisi mitsu banyak banget.

ane sih gak pernah bawa CK.. ane pernah bawa CB5 om... GTI 1.8L DOHC 140bhp... gear 3 RPM 1500, towel gas agak dalem, kepala ane nempel di head rest... sereeemmm.....

lebih mantap lagi eterna GTi. mesin legendaris 4G63. sumpeh om, 170km/jam seperti bawa ferio 100km/jam om... :big_peace:
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maskopat wrote:
ak4ng wrote:lbih bagus galant hiu lha............. v6 2.4L....... gas ditowel aja langsung ngacirrr........
2.5L.... :big_weee:
tepatnya brp cc pat????????
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maskopat wrote:kriterianya apa nih? cuman kenceng aja?
rute yang bakal sering dilalui seperti apa?
harus matik atau tidak?
budget eksekusi 70jt, spare 30jt... bagus nih...

bener yang om doq bilang, mitsu rata2 mobil cape om.. cari yang teliti. kalo emang niat cari bahan, ambil bener2 yang bahan. tawar habis2an. habis itu restorasi bangun lagi. ini kalo emang suka ngebangun mobil.
part body mungkin sudah rada susah carinya. part mesin emang mahal, susah cari KW murah..
kalo cari KW mahal yang di atas ori, banjir om.
mau modif kenceng, part2 kompetisi mitsu banyak banget.

ane sih gak pernah bawa CK.. ane pernah bawa CB5 om... GTI 1.8L DOHC 140bhp... gear 3 RPM 1500, towel gas agak dalem, kepala ane nempel di head rest... sereeemmm.....

lebih mantap lagi eterna GTi. mesin legendaris 4G63. sumpeh om, 170km/jam seperti bawa ferio 100km/jam om... :big_peace:
yup setuju...........
lancer CB dan eterna/galant itu beneran mobil kenceng, tapi klo di eterna/galant ada tambahan dalam nilai kenyamanan dibanding lancer...........yaaaa trade off nya tentu di konsumsi bbm.
well imho klo lancer CK standar ga segarang image yg beredar selama ini sih, umum nya yg kenceng2 itu udah melakukan modif sana-sini........... :e-think:
maka nya menurut saya, klo emang tujuan nya utk kenceng sebaik nya pilihan antara CB-galant-cityZ dan ferio mungkin.
kecuali klo emang mau main modif2an kedepan nya yah :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Newbie Mitsu nanya, om2..

Pnasaran aja hehe..

1) Soal akselerasi, dalam keadaan standar full (asumsi mesin sama2 sehat, drivernya sama), si CB5 GTI dan Eterna DOHC cepetan mana akselerasinya? (bukan max speed loh y..)

2) Yang disebut 'hiu' yang diaplod om ak4ng, tul? Kl 'paus' brarti yg seblomnya hiu y, yang penggantinya Eterna, yang velg palang 5 nya sering dipake anak Kijang dulu.. CMIIW.. V6 brapa CC si paus?

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ane ada 2 mitsu tapi bukan CK4 dan hiu, jadi ngga bisa omong banyak.. pengen juga perlihara CK4 buat harian, tapi sisa garasi cukupnya cuma hatchback korea sepupu mitsu

pengalaman ane dengan mitsu, untuk harian dalam kota, ane akan lebih milih CK4, bensin lebih irit, tapi emang sih hiu jauuuh lebih keren.. ikutin kata hati aja, sebenernya lebih pengen CK4 atau hiu

ane juga ga tau apa keduanya bisa minum premium atau mesti RON92 minimal, ane agak nahan diri untuk nyari2 info mendalam tentang keduanya, takut malah jadi pengen ga bisa tidur malah kebawa mimpi bisa gawat..

yang pasti sih, nyari yang seger itu susaaaah.. bener kata om kopat, kalo nyari teliti di body part, karena ngurusin hunting bodypart akan lebih capek dan mahal dibanding mesin dan kaki..

btw, hiu udah lebih canggih daripada CK4, jadi part akan lebih mahal
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maskopat wrote:kriterianya apa nih? cuman kenceng aja?
rute yang bakal sering dilalui seperti apa?
harus matik atau tidak?
budget eksekusi 70jt, spare 30jt... bagus nih...

bener yang om doq bilang, mitsu rata2 mobil cape om.. cari yang teliti. kalo emang niat cari bahan, ambil bener2 yang bahan. tawar habis2an. habis itu restorasi bangun lagi. ini kalo emang suka ngebangun mobil.
part body mungkin sudah rada susah carinya. part mesin emang mahal, susah cari KW murah..
kalo cari KW mahal yang di atas ori, banjir om.
mau modif kenceng, part2 kompetisi mitsu banyak banget.

ane sih gak pernah bawa CK.. ane pernah bawa CB5 om... GTI 1.8L DOHC 140bhp... gear 3 RPM 1500, towel gas agak dalem, kepala ane nempel di head rest... sereeemmm.....

lebih mantap lagi eterna GTi. mesin legendaris 4G63. sumpeh om, 170km/jam seperti bawa ferio 100km/jam om... :big_peace:
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Nightster Guy wrote:Newbie Mitsu nanya, om2..

Pnasaran aja hehe..

1) Soal akselerasi, dalam keadaan standar full (asumsi mesin sama2 sehat, drivernya sama), si CB5 GTI dan Eterna DOHC cepetan mana akselerasinya? (bukan max speed loh y..)

2) Yang disebut 'hiu' yang diaplod om ak4ng, tul? Kl 'paus' brarti yg seblomnya hiu y, yang penggantinya Eterna, yang velg palang 5 nya sering dipake anak Kijang dulu.. CMIIW.. V6 brapa CC si paus?

Thanx.. :)
ane belum pernah test akselerasi dua-duanya om... ane dulu pernah nyoba dan gan GTi (C61) temen om.. kalo gak salah dan gan pake mesin 4G37 dengan power sekitar 130PS.. kabarnya CB sedikit di bawah dan gan tarikannya. mungkin ini karena gear ratio C61 sangat kasar om. denger2 pake gear ratio mpv..

eterna GTi pake mesin 4G63. 2.0L DOHC 16 valve... 145PS

paus (atau lele dumbo) V6 pake mesin 6A12. 2.0L DOHC 24 valve ... ane lupa tenaganya berapa...

berikutnya hiu V6 pake mesin 6A13. 2.5L SOHC 24 valve... 160PS....

cmiiw... :big_peace:
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