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Hayoooo..

BTT.. 2 tak masuk OHV, SOHC, ato DOHC??

Qqqqqqqqqqqqq.... wonk cam nya aja kaga adah.. :p
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Nightster Guy wrote:Hayoooo..

BTT.. 2 tak masuk OHV, SOHC, ato DOHC??

Qqqqqqqqqqqqq.... wonk cam nya aja kaga adah.. :p
kalo mesin diesel 2-tak tetap ada valvenya pak :D

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Om Jaluuu..

Camshaftnya mana? :big_peace:
Kalo ada klep mestinya sih ada cam y?
Pnasaran nih, thanx infonya, saya guling2 deh nyari letak cam nya..
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Nightster Guy wrote:Hayoooo..

BTT.. 2 tak masuk OHV, SOHC, ato DOHC??

Qqqqqqqqqqqqq.... wonk cam nya aja kaga adah.. :p
jeli juga... hehehe.... :upss:
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Nightster Guy wrote:Om Jaluuu..

Camshaftnya mana? :big_peace:
Kalo ada klep mestinya sih ada cam y?
Pnasaran nih, thanx infonya, saya guling2 deh nyari letak cam nya..
nih ada diagramnya

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jalu wrote: nih ada diagramnya

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Duh, sayank, diagramnya setengah gitu.... jadi engga bisa keliatan diagram seluruhnya. Nampaknya sih pake sistem pushrod...? :e-think: :e-think:
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VanzMatic wrote:- CUT -

Duh, sayank, diagramnya setengah gitu.... jadi engga bisa keliatan diagram seluruhnya. Nampaknya sih pake sistem pushrod...? :e-think: :e-think:
Iya om VM, nih cam nya di sisi kiri bawah.. Yang saya kotakin. Pushrod yang tanda panah.. Mesin OHV..

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Kalo saya ngga salah nebak, diesel yang make sistem pushrod (4stroke maupun 2stroke), torsinya sangat besar, en rpm tertingginya engga lebih dari 3000 rpm, redline nya di 2.500 rpm...

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guys...ada yang punya literatur ttg spherical rotary valve....? pls share ya :e-pray:
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bro........... knp diesel g ad yg ukuran kecil macam bensin ya??????
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ak4ng wrote:bro........... knp diesel g ad yg ukuran kecil macam bensin ya??????
ga jg kang... waktu jaman nt masi TK kali... ada tuh taksi namanya holden gemini... itu mesin nya cuman 1500cc disel loh... CMIIW...
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mksd sy...... seukuran motor bebek... 100cc...... blm ketemu sm diesel yg segede gitu.....
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DOHC wrote:
ak4ng wrote:bro........... knp diesel g ad yg ukuran kecil macam bensin ya??????
ga jg kang... waktu jaman nt masi TK kali... ada tuh taksi namanya holden gemini... itu mesin nya cuman 1500cc disel loh... CMIIW...
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ak4ng wrote:mksd sy...... seukuran motor bebek... 100cc...... blm ketemu sm diesel yg segede gitu.....
menurut sepengetahuan ane yg masi ijo royo royo ini, rasanya pernah ada satu penemuan mesin mongtor dengan menggunakan mesin diesel. Kayaknya jaman2 ane SMA dulu th 92 atw 93 gitu lah, baca di tabloid otomot. Nampaknya, mesin diesel itu kodratnya diciptakan untuk torsi rendah di putaran bawah, sedangkan sepeda motor itu rev normalnya antara 4000 - 6000 rpm, 2x lipat dibanding mesin bensin mobil, yang rev rata2nya 2000-3000 rpm.

Yang sampai sekarang ane kurang mengerti:
1. Kenapa mesin motor itu kodratnya bergasing di rpm 2x mesin bensin mobil?
2. Kalau mesin diesel tu diciptakan hanya efisien di putaran bawah, lha pesawat turboprop bergasing di rpm lebih rendah, sekira 1000-2000rpm maksimalnya, dengan bahan bakar avtur.

Kenapa yahh...?? :e-think: :e-think:

Ada yg bisa memberi pencerahan...??

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jalu wrote:guys...ada yang punya literatur ttg spherical rotary valve....? pls share ya :e-pray:
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VanzMatic wrote:menurut sepengetahuan ane yg masi ijo royo royo ini, rasanya pernah ada satu penemuan mesin mongtor dengan menggunakan mesin diesel. Kayaknya jaman2 ane SMA dulu th 92 atw 93 gitu lah, baca di tabloid otomot. Nampaknya, mesin diesel itu kodratnya diciptakan untuk torsi rendah di putaran bawah, sedangkan sepeda motor itu rev normalnya antara 4000 - 6000 rpm, 2x lipat dibanding mesin bensin mobil, yang rev rata2nya 2000-3000 rpm.
masalah berapa max rev dr mesinnya, masih bs diambil solusinya dengan merancang gear ratio yg cocok.
AFAIK, mesin diesel kurang populer untuk sepeda motor karena sepeda motor dengan mesin bensin saja konsumsi BBM nya sudah sangat hemat, selain itu getarannya mesin diesel lbh kuat...bisa dibayangkan kalo sepeda motor bergetar kuat tentu gak nyaman
VanzMatic wrote:Yang sampai sekarang ane kurang mengerti:
1. Kenapa mesin motor itu kodratnya bergasing di rpm 2x mesin bensin mobil?
2. Kalau mesin diesel tu diciptakan hanya efisien di putaran bawah, lha pesawat turboprop bergasing di rpm lebih rendah, sekira 1000-2000rpm maksimalnya, dengan bahan bakar avtur.

Kenapa yahh...?? :e-think: :e-think:

Ada yg bisa memberi pencerahan...??

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Nongkrong ah..

Keknya bakal bisa mempertebal ilmu dimari. Asal jangan om BADAK ma ak4ng timpe2an lagi wkwkwkwkw jamin ancur dah.. :p

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Nightster Guy wrote:Nongkrong ah..

Keknya bakal bisa mempertebal ilmu dimari. Asal jangan om BADAK ma ak4ng timpe2an lagi wkwkwkwkw jamin ancur dah.. :p

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Oooo... Sy lg bongkar digi cam koq jal..
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BTT yuk..

Survei kecil2an donk, mobil2 terlaku priode Januari-Juni di trid sbelah, brapa yang pake DOHC brapa yang SOHC y? OHV sih jelas uda kaga ada.. Keknya yang bensin uda DOHC smua y? Yang disel gimana?

Ane kaga hapal spek mesin2 skarang maklum orang kolot.. :)

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nah menarik tuh....semoga momod bersedia mencopas list dr tret itu kemari.... :e-pray: :e-pray:
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