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maskopat wrote:om, ada hino keren di IIMS... eh, dyna atau hino yah... 4x4 om... ada gardan di depannya... :big_peace:
:shrug: belon sempet ke IIMS :e-pray:
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Toyota May Have Earned Over $1b In Q1 Of Fiscal Year
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota ... scal-year/
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Toyota Motor Corp. is expected to report a group operating profit of about 100 billion yen ($1.14b)for the April-June period, The Nikkei [sub]. That would be a huge improvement over the same quarter loss of 194.8 billion yen ($2.23b) in 2009. In case you are wondering about the strange quarters: Japan goes by the fiscal year that ends on March 31. The April-June period is the first quarter of the new year, and times are good at TMC.
Daihatsu’s Profits Up Nearly Fivefold – Good Omen For Toyota
The market took note when little Daihatsu announced that its group net profit jumped 460 percent year on year to 19.9 billion yen ($227m) in the April-June quarter of the Japanese fiscal year. Daihatsu is a Toyota company, and the market is eagerly expecting Toyota’s results.
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FortunerMan wrote:
maskopat wrote:om, ada hino keren di IIMS... eh, dyna atau hino yah... 4x4 om... ada gardan di depannya... :big_peace:
:shrug: belon sempet ke IIMS :e-pray:
ayo om... disempetin.... sabtu yuk om.. ane pengen ke sana lagi.. udah dapet visa ke sono... :mrgreen:
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Udah dihajar ujian, penjualan malah naik...emang TOP nih perusahaan. Emang kemampuan branding, after sales service, quality perakitan, durability, dan niat baik utk perbaikan yg mantep aja dari Toyota bisa balikin isu image jelek jadi realisasi penjualan naek.. :frm_tumbleft:

Sorry, cm pendapat pribadi...secara rekayasa engineering Yaris berat lawan Fiesta, Jazz, ato mazda 2..tapi masih bisa digenjot lewat Promo abis2an ke kampus2, secara rekayasa engineering Fortuner kyknya di bawah Pajero Sport, T31, New CRV, ato Tucson baru... :big_peace:

Tapi kalo Innova, Camry, Altis Dual VVT-i plus CVT ini mah udah pas buat leading di pasaran

Innova technology model jadul ...tapi gak ada di harga segitu mobil selega ini, cukup empuk, tahan banting, double blower, ladder frame malah cucok buat jalan di indonesia, resale value bagus ..(agak boros ajah..hii)....lagian kalo gak nyetir sembalap jg udah cukup enak disupirin apalagi yg diesel disuntik piggy back..

Camry..wah pilihan optimal dari mazda 6 ato accord ato teana..(enak disupirin, lumayan lega dan nyaman, model ganteng..)

Altis..dual vvt-i dan cvt, waaah...buat bro2 senior..tolong mungkin ada yg bisa kasih review?
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hitutbaw wrote:Sorry, cm pendapat pribadi...secara rekayasa engineering Yaris berat lawan Fiesta, Jazz, ato mazda 2..tapi masih bisa digenjot lewat Promo abis2an ke kampus2, secara rekayasa engineering Fortuner kyknya di bawah Pajero Sport, T31, New CRV, ato Tucson baru... :big_peace:
Toyota memang selalu kalah handling, tapi Yaris jauh (serius, jauh banget) lebih lega dr Fiesta, mesin gak diragukan tangguhnya, fitur kenyamanan berlimpah.

Fortuner kalah engineering? Mana SUV baru di Indonesia yg real 4WD dgn Low gear, electric seat, Torsen LSD di harga segitu. X-Trail/CR-V/Tucon itu MUV...Mall Utility Vehicle :mrgreen: Jangan dong dibandingin dgn legendary Hilux toughness...
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Income or profit?

"With respect to earnings, the details of which Mr. Ijichi, a senior managing director, will explain
shortly, our operating income of 147.5 billion yen for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2010 was
achieved thanks to every person who has supported Toyota, and we are deeply grateful for this support"

http://www2.toyota.co.jp/en/news/10/05/0511_6.pdf

Pertanyaan selanjutnya : consolidated atau non-consolidated?
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asudarsono wrote:Income or profit?
Bad accounting knowledge or bad english? :mrgreen:
http://beginnersinvest.about.com/od/inc ... margin.htm
Operating income, or operating profit as it is sometimes called, is the total pre-tax profit a business generated from its operations. It is what is available to the owners before a few other items need to be paid such as preferred stock dividends and income taxes
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Innova technology model jadul ...tapi gak ada di harga segitu mobil selega ini, cukup empuk, tahan banting, double blower, ladder frame malah cucok buat jalan di indonesia, resale value bagus ..(agak boros ajah..hii)....lagian kalo gak nyetir sembalap jg udah cukup enak disupirin apalagi yg diesel disuntik piggy back..
teknologi dibilang jadul sehh kaga jg yahh...mesin uda vvt-i, EFI, kaga pake karburator sgala... individual coil, bahkan yg baru2 uda ampe catalyc converter dan oksigen sensor sgala... scara teknologi sehh uda lumayan tuh...

yg salah dari ini mobil mungkin cuman dari mesin doank kali... kekecilan tuh buat body seberat itu... bobot 1,5 ton lebih, RWD... pas2an banget dipakein mesin 2000cc... bandingin ama xtrail atau crv, bobot cuman 1400an kg... FWD pula... sama2 2000cc... otomatis lebi irit dan lebi enak tarikan nya scara power to weight ratio lebi bagus dari ipah...

tapi yah kalo dipakein mesin gede jg serba salah sehh... kena pajak ini itu, buntut2 nya bikin harga neh mobil makin mahal.. jadi ga laku dehh... serba salah emang...
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tereretetet..... bakal seru.... book ticket dulu ah.... :mrgreen:
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hitutbaw wrote:Innova technology model jadul ...tapi gak ada di harga segitu mobil selega ini, cukup empuk, tahan banting, double blower, ladder frame malah cucok buat jalan di indonesia, resale value bagus ..(agak boros ajah..hii)....lagian kalo gak nyetir sembalap jg udah cukup enak disupirin apalagi yg diesel disuntik piggy back..
contoh2 teknologi jadul yg ada di inova apa saja boss.....?? anda bisa berkomentar...tentu harus bisa jg menjelaskan..... :e-whistle:
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btw, pas jaman ipah baru kluar, bole dbilang dia termasuk pionir utk mengaplikasikan teknologi DBW utk kategori mobil kluarga yg dijual di atpm lohhh... temen2 sekelas nya yg buat angkut penumpang 7 orang sperti panther, kuda, apv, carry, dkk masi pake drive by kabel baja....
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Ayo jelaskan! :P Sebenernya gak ada yg jadul - mesin Innova memang mengutamakan durability no.1, soalnya di jajaran Toyota dipake di mobil2 pekerja/komersil seperti Hilux dan Hiace. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_TR_engine
The 1TR-FE is a 1,998 cc I4 gasoline engine. It features DOHC, 16 valves and VVT-i . Its power is 136 hp (101 kW) @ 5600 rpm, and 18.6 kg m (182 N·m) of torque @ 4000 rpm.
Applications
* Toyota Innova
* Toyota Hiace
* Toyota Hilux
Kalo di Singapura misalnya, untuk sebuah MPV...memang tidak cocok. Gak ada MPV modern yg kodratnya buat jalanan mulus pake ladder frame. Tapi di Indonesia tercinta yg jalanannya kadang semi-offroad, Innova cucok dah - dr Sabang sampe Merauke.

Setuju dah kata DOHC...dikasi cc gede pajak mahal. Dikasi Diesel canggih resiko semaput ama solar lokal...yg ada diesel seharusnya perawatan mudah malah repot purging melulu...
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FortunerMan wrote:
maskopat wrote:om, ada hino keren di IIMS... eh, dyna atau hino yah... 4x4 om... ada gardan di depannya... :big_peace:
:shrug: belon sempet ke IIMS :e-pray:
kyanya yg mereknya MAN juga keren deh oom... :roll:
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hmm...truk MAN yg dipamer itu tipe TGA, padahal saya ngarep2 mereka pajang tipe TGX..hiks..hiks...

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FortunerMan wrote:Ayo jelaskan! :P Sebenernya gak ada yg jadul - mesin Innova memang mengutamakan durability no.1, soalnya di jajaran Toyota dipake di mobil2 pekerja/komersil seperti Hilux dan Hiace. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_TR_engine
The 1TR-FE is a 1,998 cc I4 gasoline engine. It features DOHC, 16 valves and VVT-i . Its power is 136 hp (101 kW) @ 5600 rpm, and 18.6 kg m (182 N·m) of torque @ 4000 rpm.
Applications
* Toyota Innova
* Toyota Hiace
* Toyota Hilux
Kalo di Singapura misalnya, untuk sebuah MPV...memang tidak cocok. Gak ada MPV modern yg kodratnya buat jalanan mulus pake ladder frame. Tapi di Indonesia tercinta yg jalanannya kadang semi-offroad, Innova cucok dah - dr Sabang sampe Merauke.

Setuju dah kata DOHC...dikasi cc gede pajak mahal. Dikasi Diesel canggih resiko semaput ama solar lokal...yg ada diesel seharusnya perawatan mudah malah repot purging melulu...
btw diesel ipah jg uda termasuk canggih loh... commonrail, turbo pula... scara teknologi uda mirip ama pajero sport...
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jalu wrote:hmm...truk MAN yg dipamer itu tipe TGA, padahal saya ngarep2 mereka pajang tipe TGX..hiks..hiks...
Wah kalo bawa ini gak diragukan lagi ya kejantanannya...wong truknya aja mereknya MAN :mrgreen:
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FortunerMan wrote:
jalu wrote:hmm...truk MAN yg dipamer itu tipe TGA, padahal saya ngarep2 mereka pajang tipe TGX..hiks..hiks...
Wah kalo bawa ini gak diragukan lagi ya kejantanannya...wong truknya aja mereknya MAN :mrgreen:
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waduh maap kalo ada yg komplain jadul nyah..he kalo diliat lagi kan kalimatnya "model technology jadul" jadi model dan technologynya..he he nah kalo di masalah mesin innova jd kebayang jadul mungkin kemakan gymmick kali saya jg,..ditempat lain ada bahasa torque boost resonator, atau malah toyota lein udah dual vvt-i, terus ditempat laen jg udah i-vtec gt - bukan cuma lama bukaan tapi sudut katup jg diatur malah bisa beda katup masuk atau keluar, trs chasis masih ladder frame, ato tempat laen bilang intake udah plastik, ato kalo dr transmisi ada yg udah dual clutch ato cvt ato matic 5 speed - bisa triptonic, atau kalo captiva suspensi bisa selft levelling kalo ada beban, terus bandingin output commonrail captiva kok jauh sama D-4D dgn kapasitas mesin sama....he he saya sendiri penggemar berat innova kok, cuman mungkin salah komparasi ya..tp justeru dgn pemilihan teknologi seperti ini jadinya kok optimal sekali innova ini utk pasar Indonesia..gt aja, tapi kalo lawan karburator atau mesin tanpa pengaturan katup emang udah modern banget sih..

Nah, kalo dari model..ini juga jadi rasanya jadul mungkin ngeliat freed atau ngeliat model2 kayak crv, pajero sport...he he gt aja..
ampun..deh..tapi kalo suruh milih freed atau livina atau grandis atau touran atau panther atau pajero atau captiva atau fortuner..dgn harga seperti skrg dan faktor utilitasnya (maaf ini mah pilihan pribadi)..sy lebih prefer innova..he..
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kalo ane sehh dikasi pilihan inova, grandis, lipina, panther, pajero, fortuner, captiva sehhhh... scara aklamasi dan spontan lgs ane pilih pajero sport... walaupun skrg ane ada beberapa mobil diatas... :upss: :upss: :upss:

tapi kalo mengenai bentuk sehh emang inopa ini uda rada jadul, sperti serena yg dijual nmi skrg... uda jadul pisan jek... cuman beda nya inopa ini masi ada sisi jual nya... makanya masi laku dan worth to buy... tapi who knows beberapa taon ke depan... apalagi kalo pembatasan bbm bener2 terjadi...
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yah... gak asik.... gak seru nih....
ane aja deh yang ngelawan....

inova udah DBW? DBW atau TBW? emang jazz gen 1 belum? sama2 MPV kan. bedanya ipah MPV gambot, jazz MPV mini.
trus, kenapa ipah D4D sempet ilang dari peredaran? karena teknologi canggih? tenaganya cuman 105PS... dengan mesin 2500cc....

ipah bensin boyo karena CC kecil? udah coba bawa kuda bensin yang 1.6 belum? cobain deh. baru tahu kalo 1.6L cukup powerfull... padahal tuh kuda masih karbu.. eh, ada yang injeksi.. ipah? sudah pake vvti, DBW.. teteup wae alasannya karena bobotnya kegedean.. instead of boyo... :e-snooty:

satu lagi buat yang miara ipah manual, hati2 kalo karet persenelingnya udah oblak.. ente harus ganti satu gelondong tuh tongkat.. dan harganya 2jt.. murah?

back to yaris? dibanding fiesta emang mungkin yaris lebih lega. dibanding jazz? dibanding SX4? tenaga, oke lah...
gak usah ngomongin handling di line up toyota standar.
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DOHC wrote:kalo ane sehh dikasi pilihan inova, grandis, lipina, panther, pajero, fortuner, captiva sehhhh... scara aklamasi dan spontan lgs ane pilih pajero sport... walaupun skrg ane ada beberapa mobil diatas... :upss: :upss: :upss:

tapi kalo mengenai bentuk sehh emang inopa ini uda rada jadul, sperti serena yg dijual nmi skrg... uda jadul pisan jek... cuman beda nya inopa ini masi ada sisi jual nya... makanya masi laku dan worth to buy... tapi who knows beberapa taon ke depan... apalagi kalo pembatasan bbm bener2 terjadi...
jah, kalo pilihannya yang di atas, gak usah mikir lagi.. ane mah pilih alphard... :big_weee:
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..kalo alphard mah 175 rb udah puas dari bandung ke cengkareng deh..ha ha... :mrgreen:
tapi kalo yg ini bahaya..alphard nya bisa ngegas diluar kontrol kita..soalnya digas pak supir... :glodak:
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maskopat wrote:yah... gak asik.... gak seru nih....
ane aja deh yang ngelawan....

inova udah DBW? DBW atau TBW? emang jazz gen 1 belum? sama2 MPV kan. bedanya ipah MPV gambot, jazz MPV mini.
trus, kenapa ipah D4D sempet ilang dari peredaran? karena teknologi canggih? tenaganya cuman 105PS... dengan mesin 2500cc....

ipah bensin boyo karena CC kecil? udah coba bawa kuda bensin yang 1.6 belum? cobain deh. baru tahu kalo 1.6L cukup powerfull... padahal tuh kuda masih karbu.. eh, ada yang injeksi.. ipah? sudah pake vvti, DBW.. teteup wae alasannya karena bobotnya kegedean.. instead of boyo... :e-snooty:

satu lagi buat yang miara ipah manual, hati2 kalo karet persenelingnya udah oblak.. ente harus ganti satu gelondong tuh tongkat.. dan harganya 2jt.. murah?

back to yaris? dibanding fiesta emang mungkin yaris lebih lega. dibanding jazz? dibanding SX4? tenaga, oke lah...
gak usah ngomongin handling di line up toyota standar.
jazz gen 1 blom om... ipah diesel gen 1 ilang dari peredaran emang karena si toyota nya dodol, kaga mikir mesin nya sanggup apa kaga telen solar busuk... scara toyota kan blom ada pengalaman soal diesel canggih di indo sini...
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maskopat wrote:
DOHC wrote:kalo ane sehh dikasi pilihan inova, grandis, lipina, panther, pajero, fortuner, captiva sehhhh... scara aklamasi dan spontan lgs ane pilih pajero sport... walaupun skrg ane ada beberapa mobil diatas... :upss: :upss: :upss:

tapi kalo mengenai bentuk sehh emang inopa ini uda rada jadul, sperti serena yg dijual nmi skrg... uda jadul pisan jek... cuman beda nya inopa ini masi ada sisi jual nya... makanya masi laku dan worth to buy... tapi who knows beberapa taon ke depan... apalagi kalo pembatasan bbm bener2 terjadi...
jah, kalo pilihannya yang di atas, gak usah mikir lagi.. ane mah pilih alphard... :big_weee:
yakin milih alphard ?? kaya naek angkot loh... :upss: :upss: :upss:
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maskopat wrote:
ipah bensin boyo karena CC kecil? udah coba bawa kuda bensin yang 1.6 belum? cobain deh. baru tahu kalo 1.6L cukup powerfull... padahal tuh kuda masih karbu.. eh, ada yang injeksi.. ipah? sudah pake vvti, DBW.. teteup wae alasannya karena bobotnya kegedean.. instead of boyo... :e-snooty:
tapi kalo ngomong soal mesin ipah boyo... ini ane jg rada ga ngerti, apa jangan2 utk pasar indo ntuh mesin uda diset biar bisa minum premium dgn konsekuensi jadi boyo... soalnya di luar negeri, dgn mesin yg sama aja tapi dipakein body yg jauh lebi gede dan kuat aja tetep bisa koq... tuh toyota hiace commuter aja di australia sana ada pilihan mesin 1TR-FE... buat angkut 12 orang plus barang pula... bahkan dari ukuran body pun ga kalah ama hyundai H-1....
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