Honda menjauhi Diesel...kenapa?

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Re: Honda menjauhi Diesel...kenapa?

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ilhami wrote:
esh wrote:
imsus2c wrote:ngomongin transportasi-hybrid-diesel-amerika...

saya terbiasa naik angkutan yg bermesin hybrid-diesel dan buatan USA :big_peace:

powerplant-nya:
Diesel
Type 7FDL-8
V8 87.5L Twin-turbocharger
Ouput 2150 HP @1050 rpm
max. speed 120 Kpj
FC 2.5:1

yang penting....diesel-hybrid (diesel/listrik).... :big_peace:
punya PT. KAI ya meneer imsus .... :big_peace:
hmm lokomotif kok hibrid ya?
dia kan generator yg menggerakkan motor listrik aja
http://www.getransportation.com/na/en/hybrid.html
http://www.getransportation.com/na/en/d ... ive_OP.pdf
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memang yg full hybrid blom masuk... mahalllll :mrgreen:

jadi yg konvensional sekarang, hybrid-nya nanggung...
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esh wrote:
imsus2c wrote:ngomongin transportasi-hybrid-diesel-amerika...

saya terbiasa naik angkutan yg bermesin hybrid-diesel dan buatan USA :big_peace:

powerplant-nya:
Diesel
Type 7FDL-8
V8 87.5L Twin-turbocharger
Ouput 2150 HP @1050 rpm
max. speed 120 Kpj
FC 2.5:1

yang penting....diesel-hybrid (diesel/listrik).... :big_peace:
punya PT. KAI ya meneer imsus .... :big_peace:
betul wkwkwk.... :big_peace:

surabaya-semarang, Rp. 150.000,-, 4 jam saja....
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Re: Honda menjauhi Diesel...kenapa?

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Turboman wrote:
esh wrote:IMO teknologi hybrid lebih long-term daripada teknologi diesel dilihat dari sumber energinya. Teknologi hybrid mengarah kepada teknologi full electric. CMIIW

Btw, kapan ya pemerintah kita memberi kemudahan bea masuk bagi mobil hybrid?
The Future is Full Electric vehicle & di Eropa mobil2 kecil listrik dah mulai banyak dijual

http://www.whatgreencar.com/search_database/ (klik All vehicles)

Aixam / Reva / Euauto / Smrat fortwo EV / Mitsu i-miev / MINI EV / THINK / Nissan Leaf / TESLA, etc.

Kalau saya sih berharap Pemerintah bisa berbuat lebih jauh utk memberi incentive kepada produsen dalam negeri utk membuat mobil-mobil listrik / investor yang mau membuat mobil2 listrik di Indonesia. (At least berupa Tax Holiday & peringanan pajak-pajak lainnya)

Hal ini akan mentrigger multiplier effect spt pengembangan industri Solar Panel & mini wind Turbine serta battery utk menunjang charging station.

IMHO & CMIIW yach
mungkin masih susah kali ya om mengingat kebutuhan listrik masyarakat yang belum sepenuhnya bisa disediakan PLN. kalo yang nyediain swasta, ga tau ntar apakah mobil listrik bakal menjadi solusi yang baik tidak hanya untuk lingkungan (kalo listriknya dari sumber yang rendah atau tanpa polusi bukan cuman memindahkan tempat terjadinya polusi) DAN juga buat kantong.

mungkin bisa diambil sample eropa, seberapa mahal biaya per km nya untuk mobil listrik kalo kita cuman meninjau dari penggunaan energi per km nya. apakah memang sekarang (ataupun nantinya) bakal lebih murah dengan mobil listrik dibanding mobil2 konvensional sekarang?
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imsus2c wrote:
esh wrote:
imsus2c wrote:ngomongin transportasi-hybrid-diesel-amerika...

saya terbiasa naik angkutan yg bermesin hybrid-diesel dan buatan USA :big_peace:

powerplant-nya:
Diesel
Type 7FDL-8
V8 87.5L Twin-turbocharger
Ouput 2150 HP @1050 rpm
max. speed 120 Kpj
FC 2.5:1

yang penting....diesel-hybrid (diesel/listrik).... :big_peace:
punya PT. KAI ya meneer imsus .... :big_peace:
betul wkwkwk.... :big_peace:

surabaya-semarang, Rp. 150.000,-, 4 jam saja....
jd inget iklan jaman heubeul.....
jakarta-bali cuma Rp. 44.000,- wuussss-wusssss-wuuuusssssss............ :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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btw, kenapa hybrid gak pake mesin diesel yah?
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apa jadinya ya kalo isuzu jg ikut menjauhi diesel......... :e-think:

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ow, ternyata ada toh.... ane kira cuman bensin doang... :mrgreen:
thanks om meneer.. :big_peace:
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Mobil Honda cenderung memasarkan produknya untuk menarik minat kaum hawa. Perempuan cenderung tidak menyukai mobil bermesin diesel.
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Karena alasan itu juga (istri saya tidak suka dengan bau solar dan bunyi mesih diesel), saya akhirnya harus membeli Honda CRV dan menunda harapan menikmati gagahnya Mitsubishi Pajero Sport.
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Hehehe bener nih, gan. Istri ane demen sama CRV, sementara ane suka PS. Tapi apa daya, duit buat bangun rumah dulu. Sudah sempat cari substitusinya, Santa Fe hehehe tapi nggak jadi beli juha
tukangparkir wrote:Mobil Honda cenderung memasarkan produknya untuk menarik minat kaum hawa. Perempuan cenderung tidak menyukai mobil bermesin diesel.
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Karena alasan itu juga (istri saya tidak suka dengan bau solar dan bunyi mesih diesel), saya akhirnya harus membeli Honda CRV dan menunda harapan menikmati gagahnya Mitsubishi Pajero Sport.
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drpd diesel mendingan ngembangin mesin hybrid kali ya...
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OOT dikit gimana ya kalo mobil penumpang dipasang mesin diesel ini http://www.autobildindonesia.com/read/2 ... at..2300nm nih 16 speed pulak :mrgreen:
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wakx... harganya seharga S-klasse..... tapi teknologinya seperti S-klasse juga sih....
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wow...mesin diesel mang paling top dah,liat pemakaian mesin diesel yg tangguh bagaikan jawara digunakan dimana2 di atas laut,di bawah laut,didarat...kira2 di udara ada ga yak???

kalo satu produsen mobil ga ada varian dieselnya kayanya ga oke deh,

om pacar ane suka kok bau solar malahan klo bau mesin bensin malahan uhuk2 ktanya pusing kepala
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