Toyota sedang mengalami ujian berat - PART 01

[FortunerMan]

Weleh, yaudah kalau mau pakai FARS. Saya gak maksa lho ya. Nih websitenya : http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx

Kayak sakit gigi tapi si sakit malah maksa ke dokter jantung.

Gak maksa, cuman pengen tau yg om bilang

Database NHTSA dimulai tahun 2000.

Taunya terbukti ada, sejak 1975. Yg maksa itu siapa om...

Kalo udah ada ODI ID namanya udah ada belon database nya om...

http://earthrenewal.org/are_honda_autom ... _and_r.htm

1993 Honda Igniter/Distributor Related Complaints

1. Mileage: 67,000
Occurrences: 1
Failure caused property damage: Yes
Failure caused loss of control: Yes
ODI ID: 717918
Make: HONDA
Model: ACCORD
Year: 1993
Date of Failure: Monday, December 06, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM: IGNITION

Gimana tuh om

[maskopat]

ada yang sukses nih misinya...

[asudarsono]

http://earthrenewal.org/are_honda_autom ... _and_r.htm

1993 Honda Igniter/Distributor Related Complaints

1. Mileage: 67,000
Occurrences: 1
Failure caused property damage: Yes
Failure caused loss of control: Yes
ODI ID: 717918
Make: HONDA
Model: ACCORD
Year: 1993
Date of Failure: Monday, December 06, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM: IGNITION

Gimana tuh om

Ya itulah, ini database ODI bukan FARS. Bro udah sampai ke dokter ya tepat.
Makanya jangan copas FARS FARS aja.

Coba lihat tanggal masukin datanya 6 Desember 1999 bukan? Belum in the last decade bukan? Ya berarti udah nggak kepakai ini data.

[FortunerMan]

http://earthrenewal.org/are_honda_autom ... _and_r.htm

1993 Honda Igniter/Distributor Related Complaints

1. Mileage: 67,000
Occurrences: 1
Failure caused property damage: Yes
Failure caused loss of control: Yes
ODI ID: 717918
Make: HONDA
Model: ACCORD
Year: 1993
Date of Failure: Monday, December 06, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM: IGNITION

Gimana tuh om

Ya itulah, ini database ODI bukan FARS.
Makanya jangan copas FARS FARS aja.

Coba lihat tanggal masukin datanya 6 Desember 1999 bukan? Belum in the last decade bukan? Ya berarti udah nggak kepakai ini data.

Jadi udah ngaku yg ini ngarang ya

Database NHTSA dimulai tahun 2000.

Skrg Ngarang lagi. Mana buktinya data sebelum the last decade gak dipake lagi

[asudarsono]

Oooo, frase database NHSTA mulai 2000 itu yang bro FM permasalahkan tho. Ya ya ya, emang formatnya dibuat udah lama, tapi data yg kepakai cuma dari decade terakhir, selebihnya dibuang.

Maaf deh, soalnya kalau ada yg ngomongnya "the database only reaches 3 years", pengertian umumnya emang validitas data yg dipertahankan cuma 3 tahun, selebihnya tidak dipakai.

Ternyata om FM ini mempermasalahkan programnya ..... ya dulu bukan pakai lotus bro, tapi dbase.

Makanya tiap kai dibilang "in the last decade", yg diterjemahan since 2000.

[FortunerMan]

Oooo, frase database NHSTA mulai 2000 itu yang bro FM permasalahkan tho. Ya ya ya, emang formatnya dibuat udah lama, tapi data yg kepakai cuma dari decade terakhir, selebihnya dibuang.

Maaf deh, soalnya kalau ada yg ngomongnya "the database only reaches 3 years", pengertian umumnya emang validitas data yg dipertahankan cuma 3 tahun, selebihnya tidak dipakai.

Mana buktinya data lama gak dipake, ngarang ke ngarang lagi ya om Siapa yg bilang database mana yg reaches only 3 years?

Database NHTSA dimulai tahun 2000. Itu saja. Makanya tiap data selalu diawali "sejak 2000".

Taunya data dr jaman bahlak juga ada. Skrg ngarang data lama gak dipake...tolong kasi sourcenya

[asudarsono]

1984 TOYOTA COROLLA
Manufacturer TOYOTA MOTOR CO., LTD.
Manufactured between 9/1/1982 - 8/1/1984
Recalled on 3/1/1990
Influenced by OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION
Owners Notified on 2/28/1990
# Affected 121,389
Recalled for VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL

Description CRUISE CONTROL COMPUTER MALFUNCTION COULD OCCUR UPON SHUTTING OFF THE CONTROL AFTER CONTINUOUS USE FOLLOWED BY COLD AMBIENT TEMPERATURES.
Consequences THERMAL SHOCK TO THE CRUISE CONTROL COMPUTER COULD RESULT IN ENGINE RACING IF THE ENGINE IS RESTARTED WITH THE MAIN CONTROL SWITCH IN THE 'ON' POSITION. THIS COULD CAUSE LOSS OF CONTROL AND AN ACCIDENT IF THIS IS PERFORMED IN NORMAL TRAFFIC CONDITIONS.
Corrective action REPLACE COMPUTER WITH ONE OF IMPROVED DESIGN.
Notes SYSTEM: CRUISE CONTROL.VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER CARS.
See also 1984 TOYOTA COROLLA Recall for ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, ALTERNATOR/GENERATOR/REGULATOR

121.389 mobl itu banyak juga ya.

1984 itu sebelum apa sesudah tahun 2000

[FortunerMan]

1984 TOYOTA COROLLA
Manufacturer TOYOTA MOTOR CO., LTD.
Manufactured between 9/1/1982 - 8/1/1984
Recalled on 3/1/1990
Influenced by OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION
Owners Notified on 2/28/1990
# Affected 121,389
Recalled for VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL

Description CRUISE CONTROL COMPUTER MALFUNCTION COULD OCCUR UPON SHUTTING OFF THE CONTROL AFTER CONTINUOUS USE FOLLOWED BY COLD AMBIENT TEMPERATURES.
Consequences THERMAL SHOCK TO THE CRUISE CONTROL COMPUTER COULD RESULT IN ENGINE RACING IF THE ENGINE IS RESTARTED WITH THE MAIN CONTROL SWITCH IN THE 'ON' POSITION. THIS COULD CAUSE LOSS OF CONTROL AND AN ACCIDENT IF THIS IS PERFORMED IN NORMAL TRAFFIC CONDITIONS.
Corrective action REPLACE COMPUTER WITH ONE OF IMPROVED DESIGN.
Notes SYSTEM: CRUISE CONTROL.VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER CARS.
See also 1984 TOYOTA COROLLA Recall for ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, ALTERNATOR/GENERATOR/REGULATOR

121.389 mobl itu banyak juga ya.

1984 itu sebelum apa sesudah tahun 2000

Makin ngawur kan kedengerannyanya omongan ini

Database NHTSA dimulai tahun 2000. Itu saja. Makanya tiap data selalu diawali "sejak 2000".

[asudarsono]

http://www.autosafety.org/toyota-sudden-acceleration

RECALLS AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENT CAMPAIGNS

- 1982 Cressida, Celica, Supra Recall 86V-132 (See EA85-045)
- 1983-84 Camry, 1984 Corolla Recall 90V-040 (See PE90-021)
- 1998-01 Camry Recall 01V-012
- 2007-08 Camry, Lexus ES350 Recall 07E-082 (See EA07-010)
- 2004 Sienna Safety Improvement Campaign 09V-023 (See EA08-014)
- 2005-10 Avalon, Tacoma; 2004-09 Prius; 2007-10 Camry, Tundra, Lexus ES 350; 2006-10 Lexus IS 250/350 Recall 09V-388
- 2009-10 Pontiac Vibe; 2007-10 Camry, Tundra; 2008-10 Sequoia; 2005-10 Avalon; 2009-10 Corolla, Matrix, RAV4; 2010 Highlander Recall 10V-017
- 2009-10 Pontiac Vibe Recall 10V-018
- 2008-10 Highlander; 2009-10 Corolla, Venza, Matrix, Pontiac Vibe Recall 10V-023

UK Lexus Floor Mat Recall September 2000

Transport Canada Announces Safety Improvement Campaign - 11/26/09
Graphic: Canada Recall
Canada: Toyota floor-mat problems arose in 2003 - 3/23/10\

[asudarsono]

Makin ngawur kan kedengerannyanya omongan ini

Wah jarang2 bro FM kehabisan amunisi.

[FortunerMan]

http://www.autosafety.org/toyota-sudden-acceleration

RECALLS AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENT CAMPAIGNS

- 1982 Cressida, Celica, Supra Recall 86V-132 (See EA85-045)
- 1983-84 Camry, 1984 Corolla Recall 90V-040 (See PE90-021)
- 1998-01 Camry Recall 01V-012
- 2007-08 Camry, Lexus ES350 Recall 07E-082 (See EA07-010)
- 2004 Sienna Safety Improvement Campaign 09V-023 (See EA08-014)
- 2005-10 Avalon, Tacoma; 2004-09 Prius; 2007-10 Camry, Tundra, Lexus ES 350; 2006-10 Lexus IS 250/350 Recall 09V-388
- 2009-10 Pontiac Vibe; 2007-10 Camry, Tundra; 2008-10 Sequoia; 2005-10 Avalon; 2009-10 Corolla, Matrix, RAV4; 2010 Highlander Recall 10V-017
- 2009-10 Pontiac Vibe Recall 10V-018
- 2008-10 Highlander; 2009-10 Corolla, Venza, Matrix, Pontiac Vibe Recall 10V-023

UK Lexus Floor Mat Recall September 2000

Transport Canada Announces Safety Improvement Campaign - 11/26/09
Graphic: Canada Recall
Canada: Toyota floor-mat problems arose in 2003 - 3/23/10\

data yg kepakai cuma dari decade terakhir, selebihnya dibuang.

Kok ada data Cressida 1982 om

[asudarsono]

Where have all the Cressida data gone, long time passing. Where have all the Celica data gone long time ago? To the archives they have gone, far far away

[asudarsono]

Kok ada data Cressida 1982 om

Huuuu, katanya suruh cari data yg gak kepakai lagi ...... Ambil dah terus buang far far away ya.... Jangan dipakai lagi

[FortunerMan]

Where have all the Cressida data gone, long time passing. Where have all the Celica data gone long time ago? To the archives they have gone, far far away

Archive bukannya berarti di buang om Coba cari di kamus arti archive itu apa...

[asudarsono]

disimpan di attic. far far away.

[FortunerMan]

disimpan

Dan bisa dipakai, bukan di buang.
Ini ngarang lagi kan

data yg kepakai cuma dari decade terakhir, selebihnya dibuang.

Yg bilang gak dipake dan dibuang siapa om? Mana sourcenya

[asudarsono]

Maunya sih dibuang, udh busuk nih. Megangnya aja pakai sarung tangan.

Cuma kalau dibuang beneran, ntar bro sangka ngarang lagi. Hahaha ngarang, Rendra kali.

[FortunerMan]

Maunya sih dibuang, udh busuk nih. Megangnya aja pakai sarung tangan.

Cuma kalau dibuang beneran, ntar bro sangka ngarang lagi. Hahaha ngarang, Rendra kali.

Salah om, archive tidak untuk dibuang.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive

An archive is a collection of historical records, as well as the place they are located. Archives contain primary source documents that have accumulated over the course of an individual or organization's lifetime.
...
The study and practice of organizing, preserving, and providing access to information and materials in archives is called archival science.

Rendra ngarangnya bagus om, kalo om sih...

[Captivated]

Mau recall kek namanya, mau apa kek - mobilnya di perbaiki gak? Iya kan? Ya udah...
Kalo mobil udah bunuh 725 TIDAK di recall...namanya apa?

Lepas kendali karena apa? Siapa yang menduga SUA? Mana kata polisinya kemungkinan SUA? Kalo luka serius jadi SUA?

Fakta vs Fitnah.
Lucu, mau fitnah malah Captiva yg setirnya di recall mau COPOT. Itu fakta

bunuh 725, versi sapakah? pemerintah/pengadilan/wartawan/lsm?
jgn kan bunuh 725, klo terbukti bunuh 1 aja udh harus direcall.
mau GM kek, Toyota kek, Tata kek....

SAYA YG MENDUGA SUA! emg knp, dilarang?
hoaaaahhmmmmm...............

[DOHC]

and the battle goes on....... ngobrak ngabrik tret sebelah dulu ahhhh....

[Captivated]

Nyambung lah, sama2 industri otomotif. Jadi tau perspektif bagaimana kelakuan berbagai perusahaan otomotif. Kalo ente udah ahli sejarah Daewoo, ane kasitau sejarah GM

Seperti ane udah bilang, BURUK RUPA, BURUK KUALITAS + HIGH COST. Banyak yg sudah improve seperti Buick dan Cadillac, yg masih dodol Chevrolet (below average).


Intinya, kalo mau ngejek merek lain, jangan ngaku punya GM...gampang banget dibalesnya Kaya toyotaman gitu...gak ketahuan mobilnya apa

LAME?
CHILDISH?

Ibaratnya, org kena kanker lagi sekarat chemoterapy (GM), ngejek org kena flu biasa (Toyota). Org yg kena flu sih ketawa2 aja (katanye: ngaca dulu gih sana!)

Gejala2 "FLU" ala Toyota :
1. CEO sampe disidang didpn Congress US
2. CEO mengakui kesalahan Toyota, blaming on expansion
3. Pres Toyota USA meminta maaf krn sudah mengecewakan rakyat amrik dan berharap bs dipercaya kembali.
4. Awalnya (n emg doyan) blaming driver, lalu floor mat, lalu gas & brake pedal/system. Ga tau kedepannya apa or siapa lagi yg mau disalahkan.
5. Dpt julukan dr Mentrans US : Toyota is Safety Deaf !!!
6. Dituntut (sampe class action) dr car owners
7. Dituntut ama shareholder krn fraud/scam
8. dll

klo "flu" aja udh begitu, gimana klo kena "DB"? baru kena "liver" udh koit kali Toyota....


masa org yg kena flu kala ama penderita kanker?

http://rajufebrian.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... mu-toyota/

Ford, satu-satunya perusahaan otomotif Amerika yang tak meminta dana talangan (bailout) selama krisis, mendapat kesan baik dari 77 persen responden. Angka tertinggi kedua diduduki Honda dengan selisih tujuh poin. General Motor di peringkat ketiga dengan raihan simpati 57 persen. Secara keseluruhan, Toyota di peringkat kelima di belakang Ford, Honda, Nissan, dan General Motor.

http://www.mediapost.com/publications/? ... aid=124997

Jumpstart says Toyota's problems have led 51% of shoppers who would have normally considered a Toyota to remove the brand from their consideration set. The firm says it will take Toyota two to three years to recover.

Until it does, Jumpstart's surveys say, among shoppers who have cut Toyota from their consideration set, 17% claim they will likely replace Toyota with a Ford vehicle. But far more (48%) say they will buy a Chevy. Still, in a January survey, Ford was the top non-luxury brand named by buyers overall as their next considered purchase.

ga usah masukin data dr cina ya, malu ah.....

jd sebnrnya skrg, sapa yg flu sapa yg kanker nih?

[FortunerMan]

bunuh 725, versi sapakah? pemerintah/pengadilan/wartawan/lsm?
jgn kan bunuh 725, klo terbukti bunuh 1 aja udh harus direcall.
mau GM kek, Toyota kek, Tata kek....

SAYA YG MENDUGA SUA! emg knp, dilarang?
hoaaaahhmmmmm...............

Mari kita simak lagi article LA Times ini
http://articles.latimes.com/2001/apr/29/news/mn-57243

A History of Fiery Deaths on the Road

In December 1994, federal safety regulators--in exchange for a GM payment of $51 million for safety programs--dropped an investigation that could have led to a recall.

But the deal did nothing about the millions of trucks still on the road. Since the settlement, at least 65 people are believed to have burned to death in crashes of the old full-size pickups, according to a Times analysis of data from the Fatal Accident Reporting System, a U.S. government database.

Since the trucks were introduced in the 1970s, at least 725 people have burned to death in fuel fires triggered by C/K crashes, according to FARS data. The body count distinguishes the pickups, from a fire risk standpoint, as the most dangerous vehicles ever put on the road, according to safety groups, crash victims and their lawyers.

1. FARS data...google aja sendiri itu apa ya
2. Tidak di recall...malah nyumbang
3. Akhirnya ngaku tidak ada bukti Fortuner kena SUA...sip.

[FortunerMan]

Nyambung lah, sama2 industri otomotif. Jadi tau perspektif bagaimana kelakuan berbagai perusahaan otomotif. Kalo ente udah ahli sejarah Daewoo, ane kasitau sejarah GM

Seperti ane udah bilang, BURUK RUPA, BURUK KUALITAS + HIGH COST. Banyak yg sudah improve seperti Buick dan Cadillac, yg masih dodol Chevrolet (below average).


Intinya, kalo mau ngejek merek lain, jangan ngaku punya GM...gampang banget dibalesnya Kaya toyotaman gitu...gak ketahuan mobilnya apa

LAME?
CHILDISH?

Ibaratnya, org kena kanker lagi sekarat chemoterapy (GM), ngejek org kena flu biasa (Toyota). Org yg kena flu sih ketawa2 aja (katanye: ngaca dulu gih sana!)

Gejala2 "FLU" ala Toyota :
1. CEO sampe disidang didpn Congress US
2. CEO mengakui kesalahan Toyota, blaming on expansion
3. Pres Toyota USA meminta maaf krn sudah mengecewakan rakyat amrik dan berharap bs dipercaya kembali.
4. Awalnya (n emg doyan) blaming driver, lalu floor mat, lalu gas & brake pedal/system. Ga tau kedepannya apa or siapa lagi yg mau disalahkan.
5. Dpt julukan dr Mentrans US : Toyota is Safety Deaf !!!
6. Dituntut (sampe class action) dr car owners
7. Dituntut ama shareholder krn fraud/scam
8. dll

klo "flu" aja udh begitu, gimana klo kena "DB"? baru kena "liver" udh koit kali Toyota....


masa org yg kena flu kala ama penderita kanker?

http://rajufebrian.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... mu-toyota/

Ford, satu-satunya perusahaan otomotif Amerika yang tak meminta dana talangan (bailout) selama krisis, mendapat kesan baik dari 77 persen responden. Angka tertinggi kedua diduduki Honda dengan selisih tujuh poin. General Motor di peringkat ketiga dengan raihan simpati 57 persen. Secara keseluruhan, Toyota di peringkat kelima di belakang Ford, Honda, Nissan, dan General Motor.

http://www.mediapost.com/publications/? ... aid=124997

Jumpstart says Toyota's problems have led 51% of shoppers who would have normally considered a Toyota to remove the brand from their consideration set. The firm says it will take Toyota two to three years to recover.

Until it does, Jumpstart's surveys say, among shoppers who have cut Toyota from their consideration set, 17% claim they will likely replace Toyota with a Ford vehicle. But far more (48%) say they will buy a Chevy. Still, in a January survey, Ford was the top non-luxury brand named by buyers overall as their next considered purchase.

ga usah masukin data dr cina ya, malu ah.....

jd sebnrnya skrg, sapa yg flu sapa yg kanker nih?

Bla bla bla...panjang bener...balesnya simpel aja

Toyota global sales up 13% despite recalls
Monday, 29 March 2010 11:26

Crisis-hit Toyota said that global sales rose 13% year on year in February, despite the recent mass safety recalls of more than eight million vehicles.

The Toyota group, which includes brands Daihatsu and Hino trucks, sold 613,845 vehicles worldwide last month, up from 543,435 a year earlier, a spokesman said.

The group's global production in the same period jumped 69.2% to 734,631 units, of which 655,180 were for the Toyota brand alone.

[asudarsono]

Katanya mau ambil Fortuner selusin. Mana buktinya.

[BADAK]

Wkwkwkwkwk...skrg om FM dikeroyok lagi..
Lanjuutttttt...... ............................................