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asudarsono wrote:2009 - 2010 aja
Oooo....jadi semua media BOHONG bilang kasus Toyota ini sejak 2000 ya om?

Berarti copas si toyotaman yg sebelum 2009 salah semua dong om...wong kasusnya cuman 2009-2010 doang ya om? Wah, Captivated kali ini om asudarsono yg bilang ente ngawur...wong kasus SUA Toyota kata om asudarsono cuman 2009-2010 hihihihi...semua yg 2000-2008 adalah ciptaan media doang :mrgreen:
asudarsono wrote:Lagian tidak mungkin sejak 2000. Gila kali.
Hayooo...siapa yg gila? :e-whistle: :mrgreen:
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hahaha, adu domba nih ye. Kapan lagi gue bilang ngawur. Yg bilang copas salah ente, yg bilang tipu ente, yg bilang SUA ente, yg bilang 11 tahun ente.

Kalau thn 2000 ada kasus runaway, jelas yg gila : Toyota. Apa aja kerja tuh perusahaan sekian lama. Baca lagi deh posting gue.

Kalau yg edan ......
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Lho kata om asudarsono kasus SUA Toyota cuman thn 2009-2010, sedangkan copas2nya toyotaman dan Captivated bilang "since 2000"....berarti yg mana yg bener nih :mrgreen:

Kalo "since 2000" itu om bilang setahun, berarti om asudarsono perlu les bahasa inggris.
toyotaman wrote: Umni Suk Chung screamed, "No brakes! No brakes! No brakes!" as her Lexus RX330 sped along the shoulder of the 10 Freeway in West Los Angeles on a deadly collision course.


Chung's luxury SUV was going nearly 80 mph when it smashed into a Mercedes sedan on the Overland Avenue exit ramp. The Lexus overturned, killing Chung's sister-in-law, Esook Synn, who was seated in the back seat. Chung and another passenger were badly injured.


A woman who said she witnessed the accident said that she could see a "look of terror" in Chung's face just moments before the Dec. 15, 2008, crash.
Kalo 2008 itu masuk 2009-2010 bukan om? Bukan ya...berarti artikel diatas bohong doang ya kan om? :mrgreen:
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Satu - satu deh, biar gak loncat2. SUA itu apa sih?
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asudarsono wrote:Satu - satu deh, biar gak loncat2. SUA itu apa sih?
Cari aja sendiri di google om, sekalian cari arti kata "since"...jadi om bisa tau arti "since 2000" :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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hahaha. Setelah baca, malu ya, jadi gak mau jawab.
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asudarsono wrote:hahaha. Setelah baca, malu ya, jadi gak mau jawab.

Kenapa mesti malu om
yg bilang "since 2000" itu cuman setahun itu om.. :mrgreen:
yg bilang media semua bohong itu om.... :mrgreen:

Gimana, kasus 2008 diatas termasuk 2009-2010 gak? :mrgreen:
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Kasus di atas bukan SUA, grasshoper
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asudarsono wrote:Kasus di atas bukan SUA, grasshoper
Iyalah...wong 2008...kan SUA Toyota cuman 2009-2010 :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
asudarsono wrote:Itu dipetik dari hearing ketiga di Congress, bukan. Di situ ditulis, in the last decade blah blah blah ..... In the last four months there have been 56 deaths. Kenapa dikutip koran jadi sejak 2000, ya itu kerjaan koran aja.

Jadi setahun aja bro.

Lagian tidak mungkin sejak 2000. Gila kali.
Emang koran yg gak bohong apa sih om? 2002 itu masuk 2009-2010 gak om? :mrgreen:
CNN reported that it had obtained documents showing that Toyota warned dealerships as far back as 2002 that Camry owners were complaining about throttles surging, and recommended adjustments in an electronic control unit to fix the problem. The technical service bulletin went to every U.S. Toyota dealership in late August 2002 after some customers reported their vehicles were speeding up unexpectedly. Toyota maintains that its current problems do not involve electronic components.
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Yah, logika kok dibatasi tahun sih bro. Terpaksa deh, aku buka kamus NHTSA khusus buatmu seorang, grasshopper.

Sudden acceleration incidents" (SAI) are defined for the purpose of this report as unintended, unexpected, high-power accelerations from a stationary position or a very low initial speed accompanied by an apparent loss of braking effectiveness. In a typical scenario, the incident begins at the moment of shifting to "Drive" or "Reverse" from "Park.

Jadi Lexusnya bukan kasus SUA. Sama saya bilan yg Fortuner juga bukan SUA dan kemungkinan besar cuma gara - gara bloon aja.
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Kalo kamus "Since" artinya apa om?

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-0 ... -says.html
Toyota Sudden Acceleration Tied to 43 Fatal Crashes
March 2 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has received complaints of 43 fatal crashes involving unintended acceleration in Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles since 2000, up from 26 reported through mid-February.

The crashes caused a total of 52 deaths and 38 injuries, the agency said today in an e-mailed statement on data through last month. NHTSA provided the information to the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, which is holding a hearing today on Toyota’s record recalls. As of Feb. 15 regulators had received reports of 26 crashes and 34 deaths.
Denger2 LIA lagi ada diskon les bahasa inggris, buat om2 :mrgreen: Kan malu ane tanya, Since 2000 itu artinya berapa tahun om? Jawabnya
asudarsono wrote:2009 - 2010 aja
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Ada tuh alamat email Bloomberg, tapi mungkin terlalu jauh bagi mereka kalau harus tiap minggu ke LIA.

Coba kita kupas hasil copas :
a. NHSTA terima complaint atau report? Jangan2 orang mati ada yg kasih complaint lagi.
b. 43 crashes since 2000, up from 26 thru mid February? Duluan mana tahun 2000 atau February 2010?

Yah, si bos ini belum tanggap juga ya. JANGAN TERTIPU "since 2000". Udah baca belum laporannya. Ntar bingung lagi. Baca definisi SUA aja bingung.

Cermati dong apa yg betul. Kalau saya blang 2000 - sekarang (10 tahun bro, bukan 11. Coba tanya keponakan yang manis.) itu kena SUA semua, lalu Corolla 2001 yg saya lihat gimana? Yang saya mau perlihatkan adalah jumlah yang mati sebanyak 50an orang itu BUKAN dihitung dari tahun 2000 tapi cukup 2009 - 2010.

Itu sama aja keponakanmu kalau ditanya "Kapan Indonesia merdeka". Jawabnya pasti "sejak 1945". Tidak perlu jawab "sejak jaman Firaun". HAHAHAHA, ROTFL.
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Nanti bos bilang tuh 10 tahun (sejak 2000) yang mati cuma 52.

terus ditembak "GM juga 1000000000 tahun juga yang mati cuma 100 tuh".

Bukan saya mau takut2in ya tapi dari copas Bloomberg di atas sejak 15 Februari - 2 Maret berapa yang matikah?Kalau gak mau kaget, jangan dihitung ya. Apalagi jangan dihitung 15 Pebruari itu berapa hari yang lalu?

Itu ada yg model Corolla 2001 gak ya?
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asudarsono wrote:Ada tuh alamat email Bloomberg, tapi mungkin terlalu jauh bagi mereka kalau harus tiap minggu ke LIA.

Coba kita kupas hasil copas :
a. NHSTA terima complaint atau report? Jangan2 orang mati ada yg kasih complaint lagi.
b. 43 crashes since 2000, up from 26 thru mid February? Duluan mana tahun 2000 atau February 2010?

Yah, si bos ini belum tanggap juga ya. JANGAN TERTIPU "since 2000". Udah baca belum laporannya. Ntar bingung lagi. Baca definisi SUA aja bingung.

Cermati dong apa yg betul. Kalau saya blang 2000 - sekarang (10 tahun bro, bukan 11. Coba tanya keponakan yang manis.) itu kena SUA semua, lalu Corolla 2001 yg saya lihat gimana? Yang saya mau perlihatkan adalah jumlah yang mati sebanyak 50an orang itu BUKAN dihitung dari tahun 2000 tapi cukup 2009 - 2010.

Itu sama aja keponakanmu kalau ditanya "Kapan Indonesia merdeka". Jawabnya pasti "sejak 1945". Tidak perlu jawab "sejak jaman Firaun". HAHAHAHA, ROTFL.
Yg up itu findingnya sebagai SUA (up from 26-February), bukan matinya. Matinya/kejadiannya tetap since 2000, alias 2000-2010.

Makanya om, les dulu :mrgreen:
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asudarsono wrote:Nanti bos bilang tuh 10 tahun (sejak 2000) yang mati cuma 52.
Ya memang begitu maksud semua artikelnya om, 52 kematian akibat SUA Toyota SEJAK thn 2000. Les dulu om :mrgreen:
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asudarsono wrote:Nanti bos bilang tuh 10 tahun (sejak 2000) yang mati cuma 52.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/b ... 047177.ece
The US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said that it had received 43 complaints of fatal incidents allegedly involving unintended acceleration in Toyota vehicles since 2000. These reports are allegedly linked to 52 fatalities and 38 injuries – a significant increase on previous estimates of up to 34 deaths.
Dulu estimatenya 34, skrg estimatenya 52, ada yg bilang estimatenya 100. Kejadiannya 2000-2010 om, bukan 2009-2010.

Bukan juga 1000 SM om. Sepertinya om ini ada masalah dgn tahun ya om, Corolla yg kena kasus ECU 2005-2007, yg om omongin yg thn 2001...memang umur udha mulai menggerogoti ya om :mrgreen:
asudarsono wrote:Kenapa gak ngomong "dari tahun 1000 SM" aja? Gak salah juga khan?
Salah om. Thn 1000 SM belum ada mobil, belum ada Toyota :mrgreen:
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asudarsono wrote:Yah, si bos ini belum tanggap juga ya. JANGAN TERTIPU "since 2000"
Om om...masa udah umur lanjut kata "since" aja kaga ngerti? Nih tak kasi timelinenya ya? http://www.safetyresearch.net/toyota-su ... -timeline/
February 2, 2002
First consumer complaint of 2002 Camry engine surging when the brakes were depressed.

April 2003
Toyota experiences an unwanted acceleration incident involving a Sienna that occurred during production Dynamometer testing. The incident was allegedly caused by a missing retaining clip that allowed the center console trim panel to interfere with (trap) the accelerator pedal after it had been depressed. In the aftermath, Toyota reviewed their manufacturing processes and other data and concluded this was an isolated incident. As a secondary measure in June 2003, Toyota changed the design of the trim panel to eliminate the potential for pedal interference in the event the retaining clip is not present.

April 17 2003
Peter Boddaert of Braintree, Mass. reports SUA incident to NHTSA involving his 1999 Lexus LS 400.
Sekarang saya tanya lagi, Since 2000 itu artinya kejadian thn brp aja om? Masih Jawabnya ini?
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Yah, ternyata udah bener ini Fortunerman termasuk yang bloon bin sombong. tadinya aku diem aja, takut tersinggung eh malah makin menjadi.

Kamu itu bloon bener sih, coba kamu baca posting saya terakhir. Udah dibaca belum? Kalau udah coba dibaca lagi sama keponakan. Berapa tahun sih dalam satu decade? 11? Bloon bin bego bener deh.

Udah saya jawab belum tuh, Bloon?

Sekarang saya tanya, apa yang terjadi "since 2000" (hahahaha kenapa nggak since 1955 aja sekalian)? COMPLAINTS OF FATAL ACCIDENTS.

FATAL

FATAL

FATAL

FATAL

FATAL

FATAL

Tuh, sebelum bro FM tambah bloon, baca lagi apa yang dicopas. Lompat2 kayak penyakit dialeksia sih.

Terus saya tanya 2000 - 2010 itu, ada nggak kematian 2000 - 2008? Kalau nggak ada berarti bukan since 2000 dong, tapi cukup 2009 - 2010.

Udah ah, coba bro khan lulus SD khan (hebat donk). Kalau nggak minta bantuan keponakanmu deh. Jawab ini aja biar penonton gak bosen

a. 2000 - 2008 ada berapa kasus
b. 2009 - 2010 ada berapa kasus
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asudarsono wrote:Terus saya tanya 2000 - 2010 itu, ada nggak kematian 2000 - 2008? Kalau nggak ada berarti bukan since 2000 dong, tapi cukup 2009 - 2010.
http://www.safetyresearch.net/toyota-su ... -timeline/
February 5, 2007 Ezal fatalcrash in San Luis Obispo, CA involving 2005 Camry.
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Sekarang saya tanya lagi, "Since 2000" itu artinya kejadian thn brp aja om? Masih Jawabnya ini?
asudarsono wrote:2009 - 2010 aja
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Balik lagi pakai font gede. Kasihan, ntar si bloon nggak paham.

Itu om Ezal pakai Camry 2005 bro, jadi bukan yang direcall. Gimana sih. Gue omong Corolla 2001 katanya bukan 2005 - 2007. Sekarang bro sendiri bawa2 Camry 2005. Ntar lagi Camry sendiri dibawa2. Terus Fortuner yg di Casablanca keseret juga.

Okay, just for your sake, my pleasure and to make it humourous :
2000 : 0
2001 : 0
2002 : 0
2003 : 0
2004 : 0
2005 : 0
2006 : 0
2007 : 1
2008 : 0
2009 : 52

Ambil dah itu nenek satu biji.
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asudarsono wrote:Balik lagi pakai font gede. Kasihan, ntar si bloon nggak paham.

Itu om Ezal pakai Camry 2005 bro, jadi bukan yang direcall. Gimana sih. Gue omong Corolla 2001 katanya bukan 2005 - 2007. Sekarang bro sendiri bawa2 Camry 2005. Ntar lagi Camry sendiri dibawa2. Terus Fortuner yg di Casablanca keseret juga.
Ha ha...52 deaths since 2000 itu hasil penyelidikan database NHTSA, bukan berarti = barang yg di recall. :mrgreen: Makanya dibilang since 2000 om, kalo mati thn 2007 pake Camry 2009 nah itu AJAIB :e-whistle:

Kalo kasus ECU Corolla, yg kena complaint dan investigation NHTSA adalah Corolla 2005-2007, bukan 2001. Ngerti gak bedanya?

Jadi...skrg menurut om..."since 2000" jadi 2007-2010 ya? Kok ditambahin satu? Katanya hanya SETAHUN :mrgreen:
asudarsono wrote:2009 - 2010 aja
Apakah sudah mulai mengerti arti "Since 2000"?? AMAZING!!!
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Apa lagi sih 2007 - 2010? Kapan lagi gue omong 2007 - 2010. Dari awal gue bilang 50an yg mati dalam SETAHUN, bukan sejak 2000. Biar gak semua diprotes sama bro, aku ikut aja angkanya 52.

Coba lihat posting gue 2009 : 52.

Kalau ngikutin logika bro terus, berarti since 2000 bukan 52 tapi sekarang 53 (itu aja udah bikin bloomberg salah). Besok 54. Terus sampai ratusan orang mati atau pura2 mati gara2 satu pedal imut2.

Gue terus terang gak ngerti bedanya antara recall Corolla ama recall Camry itu. Kenapa kok Corolla 2001 gak boleh dimasukkan, yg Camry 2005 dipaksa masuk? Apa bedanya coba? Kalau gak bisa jelaskan ya gpp, kok. Jangan dipaksakan, nanti bro nangis. Nanti kalau bro nangis, jumlah yg kedaftar mati naik lagi bukan ratusan tapi menjadi ribuan
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asudarsono wrote:Apa lagi sih 2007 - 2010? Kapan lagi gue omong 2007 - 2010. Dari awal gue bilang 50an yg mati dalam SETAHUN, bukan sejak 2000. Biar gak semua diprotes sama bro, aku ikut aja angkanya 52.

Coba lihat posting gue 2009 : 52.

Kalau ngikutin logika bro terus, berarti since 2000 bukan 52 tapi sekarang 53 (itu aja udah bikin bloomberg salah). Besok 54. Terus sampai ratusan orang mati atau pura2 mati gara2 satu pedal imut2.

Gue terus terang gak ngerti bedanya antara recall Corolla ama recall Camry itu. Kenapa kok Corolla 2001 gak boleh dimasukkan, yg Camry 2005 dipaksa masuk? Apa bedanya coba? Kalau gak bisa jelaskan ya gpp, kok. Jangn dipaksakan, nanti bro nangis. Nanti kalau bro nangis, jumlah yg edaftar mati naik lagi bukan ratusan tapi menjadi ribuan
Saya nangis, ada om2 udah tua kaga ngerti arti "Since 2000" :mrgreen:

Corolla 2001 tidak kena investigation om, Camry 2005 kena investigation om.
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FortunerMan wrote: kalo mati thn 2007 pake Camry 2009 nah itu AJAIB :e-whistle:

Apakah sudah mulai mengerti arti "Since 2000"?? AMAZING!!!
Naaaaah, bro udah mulai mengerti khan? Moso barang 2009 dibilang since 2000. AJAIB.
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FortunerMan wrote: kalo mati thn 2007 pake Camry 2009 nah itu AJAIB :e-whistle:

Apakah sudah mulai mengerti arti "Since 2000"?? AMAZING!!!
Naaaaah, bro udah mulai mengerti khan? Moso barang 2009 dibilang since 2000. AJAIB.
Makanya angka kecelakaan/kematian itu 2000-2010 om, bukan hanya 2009-2010. Terimakasih membuat point saya makin jelas om :mrgreen: