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sama jg dgn mobil... biasanya kalo utk urusan servis2 AC.. ane lebi percaya kalo manggil authorized technician nya dehh ketimbang manggil yg ecek2... bukanya apa, soalnya sepengalaman ane, tukang ac itu ada 2 type, entah itu type yg ga terampil, atau yg terampil skali ampe ngibulin customer nya....
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FortunerMan wrote:
maskopat wrote:om FM, kalo aja toyota bikin AC.... ente pasang AC toyota di ruang utama yak? :mrgreen:
Kalo bagus dan harga OK. Kalo nggak ya nggak...egp... AC split sih menurut ane paling bagus Sharp
ane biasanya pake national.. ini awet banget.. nah, sekarang pake panasonic... kacau dah, kurang 2 pekan garansi habis, rusak... tahun depannya, ngulah lagi.. :frm_bang_head:
soalnya AC sekarang, mesinnya kecil banget. ngomongnya 3/4PK tapi kompresornya ukuran 1/2 PK jadoel... :frm_bang_head:
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DOHC wrote:sama jg dgn mobil... biasanya kalo utk urusan servis2 AC.. ane lebi percaya kalo manggil authorized technician nya dehh ketimbang manggil yg ecek2... bukanya apa, soalnya sepengalaman ane, tukang ac itu ada 2 type, entah itu type yg ga terampil, atau yg terampil skali ampe ngibulin customer nya....
bener.. dan biasanya ane pake 1 orang itu aja di authorized servicenya... sampe dicurigai oleh petugas administrasinya. ane bilang aja, yang itu kerjanya oke, teliti dan rapih. yang lain kacau...
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@grandscenic
mitsu eclipse mah cuman formalitas mitsu doang di mobil kupe..
tetap aja, "setan iblis"nya di evolution... :frm_salut:
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maskopat wrote: ane biasanya pake national.. ini awet banget.. nah, sekarang pake panasonic... kacau dah, kurang 2 pekan garansi habis, rusak... tahun depannya, ngulah lagi.. :frm_bang_head:
soalnya AC sekarang, mesinnya kecil banget. ngomongnya 3/4PK tapi kompresornya ukuran 1/2 PK jadoel... :frm_bang_head:
gw punya pengalaman mirip. dirumah bokap ada ac window merk national 1/2 pk, dipake sejak 1993 msh jalan sampe skrg. cm dinginnya mmg udh agak berkurang
dirumah famili ada ac split panasonic 1pk, baru bbrp bln pake udh ga dingin, ga tau knp
ngomong2 ama penjual ac, ktnya panasonic skrg udh ga kyk national dulu (pdhl cm ganti merk aja?)
tp klo soal ac, ane ttp pegang daikin... udh ane buktiin sndri soalnya. mitsu ama LG ok juga, tp klo panasonic ntar2 dulu deh :mrgreen:

ini tred... judulnya ttg toyota (mobil), isinya malah bahas ac
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Toyota membuat kesalahan besar di awal tahun , yg mana seharusnya di awal tahun memulai start dengan MULUS ,tanpa disadari akibat Recall berkepanjangan Toyota maka produsen dari Korea HYUNDAI dan KIA mulai dilirik pembeli eropa dan amerika jelas ini merupakan suatu keuntungan buat negeri Ginseng untuk lebih menancapkan cakarnya di kedua benua tersebut . saya pribadi sebagai pemakai mobil korea cukup puas akan performa Timor yg mana kualitas bodi dan mesinnya cukup handal dipake di Indonesia
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hmmm. AC daikin pancen oyeeee... :frm_tumbright:
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maskopat wrote:@grandscenic
mitsu eclipse mah cuman formalitas mitsu doang di mobil kupe..
tetap aja, "setan iblis"nya di evolution... :frm_salut:
Evo IX katanya 'lbh iblis' drpa Evo X, bener tuh.. om kopat?
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grandscenic wrote:
maskopat wrote:@grandscenic
mitsu eclipse mah cuman formalitas mitsu doang di mobil kupe..
tetap aja, "setan iblis"nya di evolution... :frm_salut:
Evo IX katanya 'lbh iblis' drpa Evo X, bener tuh.. om kopat?
sama aja.... betis lah... tapi kayaknya sangaran evo X deh...

gimana om grandscenic, pilih evo X FQ400 atau eclipse??? :mrgreen:
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Kalo Mitsu ane mah lbh sneng Pajero Super Exceed, ini mobil top markotop dah.
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maskopat wrote:
Risol1 wrote:Toyota udah siap2 keluar cost 2 billion (termasuk opportunity cost karena stop jualan 1 minggu) untuk recall "sticky pedal" nya.
Sbenernya sih betulin nya murah, cuma nempelin pelat segede chip komputer diantara pedal gas dan juga re-program softwarenya. "chip"/shim nya sendiri cuma bbrp sen doang harganya.
Yg mahal itu biaya pasangnya/labor (1 mobil sekitar 30 menit), dan juga toyota motor corp kasi kompensasi ke dealer2 (up to $75k), duit tsb sifatnya "no strings attached", yg penting dealer jangan takut keluar duit buat servis customernya soalnya Toy tau bahwa reputasi ini yg mahal banget harganya.
Kalo cuma cost 2 billion mah, entar belum sampe akhir tahun juga udah bisa nutup kalo salesnya lancar lagi. (untung aja toyota yg kena kasus bertubi2 gini, kalo yg kena si chrysler....bisa langsung bangkrut kali :mrgreen: )

Makanya dealer2 banyak yg buka sampe tengah malem dan kalo ane lagi lewat dealer toyota, itu camry/corolla/highlander buanyak banget pada ngantri nunggu dibenerin......
halo om Risol... pa kabar? long time no see...

tentang labor mahal, pake aja imigrant gelap... dibayar berapa aja mau... :mrgreen:
secara mobil yang harus direcall jutaan, tiap bengkel ada 2 immigrant gelap yang pasang2 gini... murah kan??
Baik2 om Kopat. Gimana kabarnya nih? udah diboyong PS 4wdnya ke rumah?

Yg lagi kesenengan gara2 recall toyota ya si Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Mazda......calon pembeli camry jadi luber ke mereka.
Semestinya sih gak kenapa2 mobilnya kalo engga ada gejala2 apa2. Tapi karena berita2 yg gembar gembor gini bikin orang takut buat nyetir toyotanya. Teman ane camry nya ditaroh dulu di rumahnya, ke kantor nebeng sama anaknya hehehe.....

Kalo camry indo sih aman, bukan karena TAM yg ngibulin customernya, tapi karena memang part nya lain sama camry US.
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Abu2 wrote:hmmm. AC daikin pancen oyeeee... :frm_tumbright:
sama dong dengan merek kopling..... :big_weee:

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Risol1 wrote:
maskopat wrote:
Risol1 wrote:Toyota udah siap2 keluar cost 2 billion (termasuk opportunity cost karena stop jualan 1 minggu) untuk recall "sticky pedal" nya.
Sbenernya sih betulin nya murah, cuma nempelin pelat segede chip komputer diantara pedal gas dan juga re-program softwarenya. "chip"/shim nya sendiri cuma bbrp sen doang harganya.
Yg mahal itu biaya pasangnya/labor (1 mobil sekitar 30 menit), dan juga toyota motor corp kasi kompensasi ke dealer2 (up to $75k), duit tsb sifatnya "no strings attached", yg penting dealer jangan takut keluar duit buat servis customernya soalnya Toy tau bahwa reputasi ini yg mahal banget harganya.
Kalo cuma cost 2 billion mah, entar belum sampe akhir tahun juga udah bisa nutup kalo salesnya lancar lagi. (untung aja toyota yg kena kasus bertubi2 gini, kalo yg kena si chrysler....bisa langsung bangkrut kali :mrgreen: )

Makanya dealer2 banyak yg buka sampe tengah malem dan kalo ane lagi lewat dealer toyota, itu camry/corolla/highlander buanyak banget pada ngantri nunggu dibenerin......
halo om Risol... pa kabar? long time no see...

tentang labor mahal, pake aja imigrant gelap... dibayar berapa aja mau... :mrgreen:
secara mobil yang harus direcall jutaan, tiap bengkel ada 2 immigrant gelap yang pasang2 gini... murah kan??
Baik2 om Kopat. Gimana kabarnya nih? udah diboyong PS 4wdnya ke rumah?

Yg lagi kesenengan gara2 recall toyota ya si Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Mazda......calon pembeli camry jadi luber ke mereka.
Semestinya sih gak kenapa2 mobilnya kalo engga ada gejala2 apa2. Tapi karena berita2 yg gembar gembor gini bikin orang takut buat nyetir toyotanya. Teman ane camry nya ditaroh dulu di rumahnya, ke kantor nebeng sama anaknya hehehe.....
PS 4WD? kan nunggu transferan dari om Risol US$ 40,000... kalo udah masuk baru ane boyong tuh PS 4WD AT... :mrgreen:

hiks.. koq mitsu gak dilirik sih??? :frm_bang_head:
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grandscenic wrote:Kalo Mitsu ane mah lbh sneng Pajero Super Exceed, ini mobil top markotop dah.
sama om... tapi ane yang 3.2 DID... pengen yang short untuk harian, yang long untuk jalan pas weekend... :mrgreen:
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Daikin Pancen OYEEE..uwakakak
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intermezzo dulu....

msh berhubungan dgn Toyota... ternyata Hitler juga punya Corolla loh :frm_tumbright:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N73Z8FC7H-E

bahkan punya camry juga :frm_salut:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI7cFaAB_3Q

tp akhirnya....??? :glodak:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajjUOUdn4Y4


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GILA GILA GILA ........................... COBAAN belum berakhir ternyata Toyota global benar benar bermasalah


http://autos.okezone.com/read/2010/02/1 ... ecall-lagi
http://autos.okezone.com/read/2010/02/1 ... bermasalah
http://autos.okezone.com/read/2010/02/1 ... ribu-prius

Rem camry bocor, power steering corolla trouble dan Prius masalah juga di rem . kalau kaya gini yg tadinya Produsen paling kaya bisa menjadi paling MISKIN jauh di bawah produsen dunia yg lain seperti Ford,Hyundai dan VW
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Captivated wrote:intermezzo dulu....

msh berhubungan dgn Toyota... ternyata Hitler juga punya Corolla loh :frm_tumbright:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N73Z8FC7H-E

bahkan punya camry juga :frm_salut:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI7cFaAB_3Q

tp akhirnya....??? :glodak:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajjUOUdn4Y4


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Tapi gak bangkrut dan jadi merek plat merah (Government Motors) :mrgreen: Salesmannya Obama ya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usyPnsjlOzM :mrgreen:
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Honda nambah recall.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/1 ... 56202.html
Honda Recall 2010: Airbag Problems Add Another 437,000 Vehicles To Recall
TOKYO — Honda Motor Co. is adding 437,000 vehicles to its 15-month old global recall for faulty airbags in the latest quality problem to hit a Japanese automaker.

The company will replace the driver's side air bag inflator on the cars because they can deploy with too much pressure, causing the inflator to rupture and injure or kill the driver.

Japan's No. 2 automaker originally announced the recall to the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in November 2008 and the total of number vehicles recalled since then is approaching 1 million.

The latest expansion of the airbag recall includes 378,000 cars in the U.S., some 41,000 cars in Canada and 17,000 cars in Japan, Australia and elsewhere in Asia. The North American recall was announced Tuesday and followed Wednesday by the recall in Asia.

Honda's announcement comes at a time of increased attention on automotive recalls. Though the problems are unrelated, rival Toyota Motor Corp. is in the process of recalling more than 8 million cars and trucks due to faulty gas pedals. On Tuesday, Toyota said it would recall more than 440,000 of its flagship 2010 Prius and other hybrids due to a braking glitch.

"There is a heightened sensitivity right now to anything to do with recalls," said John Mendel, executive vice president of sales for American Honda.

Honda's latest U.S. recall airbag affects certain 2001 and 2002 Accord sedans, Civic compacts, Odyssey minivans, CR-V small sport utility vehicles and some 2002 Acura TL sedans.

The recall now affects 952,118 vehicles, including certain 2001 and 2002 Accord sedans, Civic compacts, Odyssey minivans, CR-V small sport utility vehicles and some 2002 Acura TL sedans.

In Japan, the recall covers three models, including the 2001 sedan Inspire.

Honda said it is aware of 12 incidents linked to the problem – one death in May 2009 and 11 injuries. The company said it is not aware of any problems happening after July 2009.
Oh no! recall! Killer Hondas! Panik! Panik! :mrgreen: biasa aje kaliiii....
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di luar negeri, penyakit yg kecil2 aja di recall.... di indo sini, yg gawat2 kaya transmisi selip, fuel gauge korslet aja kaga di recall2... emang beda hak konsumen nya kalo di dalam negeri ama luar negeri...
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koq mitsu gak ada recall yah??? ngumpetin masalah lagi apa ya? :e-think:
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nissan aja kaga ada recall2, padahal dari batch awal livina aja uda ada masalah, gearbox, fuel gauge, steering rack (kalo yg ini blom ada solusi ampe ari ini), spakbor depan yg covernya bolong2 kaga disumpel (untung yg kluaran 2009 uda diganti bentuk cover spakbor nya)
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ya jelas aja kagak Recall , Pemerintah kan masih nganggap konsumen otomotif kita bodoh bodoh , makanya gak papa kalau gak di recall .orang mereka aja masa bodoh kok negara hancur hahahahhahaha :big_weee:
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DOHC wrote:nissan aja kaga ada recall2, padahal dari batch awal livina aja uda ada masalah, gearbox, fuel gauge, steering rack (kalo yg ini blom ada solusi ampe ari ini), spakbor depan yg covernya bolong2 kaga disumpel (untung yg kluaran 2009 uda diganti bentuk cover spakbor nya)
Loh ane beli (2007) kok udah kesumpel ya spakbor depan he2 Lucky kali ya.. :big_peace:
Wah iya bro masalah joint steer,steering rack kenapa ga di recall (ternyata nissan belum punya part pengganti yg ga bikin bunyi lagi,masih dikembangkan katanya)..Ane udah ganti tetep aja bunyi kok joint steer nya (walaupun ga separah dulu)
Gearbox ini ga perlu di recall bro cz emang udah takdirnya agak berisik gitu,, konsekuensi karena celah antar gigi dibuat super rapet (menurunkan FC)..
Fuel gauge 50:50 ada yg diganti gold plate udah solved ada yg masih kumat2 lagi.. :frm_bang_head:
Ane hampir aja jual tuh GL saking bnykny troubel tapi untung beres ga mempersulit jadi fine2 aja..Yg paling buat kecewa BERES nissan justru ane minta ganti part V-Belt ("barangnya ga ada inden dulu pak 10 hari")..OMG :frm_shock: :frm_shock: :frm_shock:
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http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/10/autos/e ... htm?hpt=C2
Relatively few complain about Toyota

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Despite a [cencored] of high-profile recalls that have tarnished Toyota's once stellar reputation, a study published Wednesday reveals that the automaker actually gets fewer customer complaints per car than the majority of its competitors.

Edmunds.com reviewed more than 200,000 complaints filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) over the last decade and found that Toyota ranked 17th among the top 20 automakers in the overall number of complaints per vehicle sold.

The results come amid a series of recalls totaling more than 8.1 million Toyotas worldwide, including 400,000 of the popular 2010 Prius hybrid for problems associated with sticking brake pedals, software glitches and faulty floormats. The study was based on the percentage of complaints each automaker received versus the total number of vehicles they sold in the United States between 2001 and 2010. As a result, British carmaker Land Rover had the highest proportion of complaints relative to the number of cars it sold. The company received 0.6% of the total complaints in the database, while its sales amounted to only 0.1% of all new cars sold in the United States.

Meanwhile, Toyota had 9.1% of all the complaints in the database. But the company was number 17 on the list because its sales made up 13.5% of the U.S. market.

According to the study, Toyota had fewer complaints than its American rivals. Ford (F, Fortune 500) was number 10 on the list, while General Motors (GM, Fortune 500) came in at number 11. The only automakers to receive fewer complaints than Toyota were Mercedes-Benz, Porsche and the Mercedes-made Smart Car.

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Banyak juga ya Toyota nyumpel mulut konsumennya supaya gak komplen... :mrgreen: