Toyota sedang mengalami ujian berat - PART 01

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP9nQWwp ... r_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c1Dwoak ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfmYIGpX ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZWPItpu ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjfKrwCT ... re=related

Prius unintended acceleration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II_03lbr ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2Wtn5AR ... re=related

911 call:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHGSWs4u ... re=related

bertubi2 mslh datang melanda....

* Plagiat
http://oto.detik.com/read/2009/09/07/10 ... ng-plagiat

* Dituntut Mantan Pengacara krn Menyembunyikan Cacat Fatal Kendaraan
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/ ... 3636.shtml

* Kena Class Action
http://oto.detik.com/read/2009/11/10/10 ... ass-action

* Awalnya menyalahkan karpet, ternyata tanpa karpet pun kejadian tsb terulang
http://oto.detik.com/read/2010/01/27/10 ... -pedal-gas

* Membantah/Menyangkal adanya cacat, stlh ketahuan "menutup" keluhan dgn Uang
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-t ... full.story

- blame human error in cases where owners claimed vehicle defects.
- involved in accidents causing 19 fatalities since 2001, more deaths from that problem than all other automakers combined.
- A computerized search of NHTSA records by The Times has found Toyota issued eight previous recalls related to unintended acceleration since 2000, more than any other automaker.
- Currently, Toyota is a defendant in at least 10 lawsuits alleging unintended acceleration that caused five fatalities and four injuries. Two of those suits are seeking class-action status.
- Documents entered in four lawsuits filed in Los Angeles this year, however, show that Toyota had received numerous consumer complaints dating from 2000 and had replaced dozens of the parts under warranty. The documents also show that Japanese police, in an investigation of the defect, said that Toyota employees had known about the problem since 1992 and should have initiated a recall immediately.
- In 2007, California's Court of Appeal found that "Toyota had intentionally violated two orders compelling discovery" of stability test results in a case involving a Toyota-made forklift that tipped over and killed a worker. The court slapped Toyota with a $138,984.33 sanction and ordered a new trial. Toyota, which denied wrongdoing, ultimately settled the case.

[FortunerMan]

Sudah bertubi tubi masalahpun...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/2 ... 37769.html

Toyota sold more than 34,000 Camrys in December, making the midsize sedan America's best-selling car. It commands 3.4 percent of the U.S. market and sales rose 38 percent from a year earlier. Sales of the Corolla and Matrix, a small sedan and a hatchback, totaled 34,220 last month, making up 3.3 percent of the market and sales up nearly 55 percent from December of 2008.

Itulah bedanya kasus sedikit2, vs membuat mobil2 buruk selama 2 dekade ala GM

[FortunerMan]

And the best resale value (mobil bobrok tidak akan bagus resale valuenya)
http://wot.motortrend.com/6621264/marke ... index.html

Kelley Blue Book has released the winners of its Best Resale Value Awards, with Toyota sweeping this year's top brand honors. For 2010, Toyota Motor Company has taken home both top awards, with Toyota getting the nod for best resale value and its Lexus luxury brand taking home the trophy for best resale value for a luxury brand. In addition to those two awards, Toyota and Lexus models dominated the awards by category, taking home six of the 18 awards. Honda came up second with three nods and Ford was third with two.

[FortunerMan]

Best Brand Perception (2009) http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars ... ons-ov.htm

The latest Auto Pulse survey conducted by the Consumer Reports National Research Center focused on the ways consumers perceive and rank car brands in seven crucial areas, including safety, quality, value, performance, environmental friendliness, design, and technological innovation.

1. Toyota
2. Honda
3. Ford
4. Cadillac
5. Mercedes- Benz

[maskopat]

ane menarik kutipan ini:

Di Indonesia, Bansar meyakini mobil Toyota sudah tidak mengapliaksikan pedal gas
dengan link di bawah, semua link atau pengaitnya berada di antara dinding mesin
dan lantai kabin penumpang atau menggantung. "Toyota di Indonesia sudah tidak
mengaplikasin pedal gas yang linknya di bawah tetapi sudah menggantung," tegas
Bansar.

kesannya TAM lebih hebat daripada toyota US...

kijang super sih udah gak pake link di bawah, tapi di atas... mobil jadoel...
kasihan banget ya toyota US... ketinggalan lebih 20 tahun daripada toyota indonesia untuk aplikasi link pedal gas..

[Captivated]

Sudah bertubi tubi masalahpun...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/2 ... 37769.html

Toyota sold more than 34,000 Camrys in December, making the midsize sedan America's best-selling car. It commands 3.4 percent of the U.S. market and sales rose 38 percent from a year earlier. Sales of the Corolla and Matrix, a small sedan and a hatchback, totaled 34,220 last month, making up 3.3 percent of the market and sales up nearly 55 percent from December of 2008.

kekekek.... mau liat sales lagi ya?
toyota masih rugi besar bowks!
http://oto.detik.com/read/2010/01/27/16 ... tahun-2010

Namun begitu, untuk tahun fiskal yang akan berakhir pada Maret 2010 ini, Toyota
malah diperkirakan akan mengalami kerugian operasional hingga US$ 3,9 miliar
atau sekitar Rp 38,2 triliun.

bahkan ada kemungkinan rugi 3 thn berturut2
http://oto.detik.com/read/2009/06/25/14 ... asih-berat

"Kami ingin melakukan hal-hal yang mungkin untuk menghindari kerugian selama 3 tahun berturut-turut," ujar Toyoda.

mknya om Akio... jgn sales terus yg dikejar, P&L ga diperhatiin
mau kejar volume ya om? biar rugi yg pntg sales terbesar?

Itulah bedanya kasus sedikit2, vs membuat mobil2 buruk selama 2 dekade ala GM

bgmn mau ketahuan buruknya toyota, kalo sedikit2 mulut konsumer yg komplain "ditempel"
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-t ... full.story

* Toyota has paid cash settlements to people who say their vehicles have raced out of control, sometimes causing serious accidents, according to consumers and their attorneys. Other motorists who complained of acceleration problems with their vehicles have received buybacks under lemon laws.
* After a 2007 crash of a Camry that accelerated out of control for 20 miles before killing the driver of another car in San Jose, Toyota was sued by members of the victim's family. Their attorney, Louis Franecke, said the automaker "didn't want to go to trial," and paid them a seven-figure sum in exchange for dropping the case and signing a non-disclosure form.
* In an interview, Guadalupe Gomez, the driver of the runaway Camry, said he also signed a confidentiality agreement and received a settlement from Toyota. He was initially arrested on suspicion of manslaughter for causing the crash, but charges were never filed.
* By settling, Toyota has managed to keep potentially damaging information out of the public eye, said Raymond Paul Johnson, a Los Angeles attorney who said he had settled four sudden-acceleration cases with the automaker.
* Toyota said that although it does not comment on individual cases, it "has resolved and will continue to resolve matters with litigants through confidential settlement when it is in both parties' interests to do so."
* In January, Jeffrey Pepski, a financial consultant in suburban Minneapolis, took his 2007 Lexus ES 350 to the dealer after it accelerated out of control on a Twin Cities freeway, reaching 80 miles per hour.
Toyota sent an expert to examine the car Feb. 3 and download electronic data stored on the vehicle's computers. When Pepski asked for a copy of the data, he was refused.
"They said it was proprietary," Pepski recalled.
He filed a defect petition with NHTSA, and the dealer allowed Pepski to trade in the sedan for a sport utility vehicle. The Lexus ES was not branded a lemon and was resold in Minnesota, records show.
* How Toyota handles requests like Pepski's has frustrated investigators and vehicle owners who want to get information contained on computers in their vehicles.

mknya tdk heran kalo keluhan thd mbl2 toyota jarang sekali muncul keluar (gmn JD power/consumer report bs dpt keluhan... haloo?)
krn sblm kluar, toyota sdh resolve matters with litigants through confidential settlement

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Kok ngawur ya tuh org TAM, justru yg pedal gantung yg bisa nyangkut di karpet. Kalo linknya menyatu dengan lantai kabin mana mungkin karpet nyelip dibawahnya?

Wong solusinya di Amerika cuman dikasi pedal yg lebih pendek kok (malah solusi sementaranya pedal gas di kikis), berarti kan sama aja kaya model Indonesia, link di atas

Menurut ane sih sama aja...orang ATPM sih asal ngemeng aja. Belon ada kejadian aja kali di Indonesia...karena rata2 org Indonesia better drivers (bukan more polite ya , tapi lebih jago nyetirnya), jadi kalo ada apa2 tinggal pindahin ke N aja beres urusan.

kan org toyota "PROFESIONAL" di semua jajaran

[Captivated]

ane menarik kutipan ini:

Di Indonesia, Bansar meyakini mobil Toyota sudah tidak mengapliaksikan pedal gas
dengan link di bawah, semua link atau pengaitnya berada di antara dinding mesin
dan lantai kabin penumpang atau menggantung. "Toyota di Indonesia sudah tidak
mengaplikasin pedal gas yang linknya di bawah tetapi sudah menggantung," tegas
Bansar.

kesannya TAM lebih hebat daripada toyota US...

kijang super sih udah gak pake link di bawah, tapi di atas... mobil jadoel...
kasihan banget ya toyota US... ketinggalan lebih 20 tahun daripada toyota indonesia untuk aplikasi link pedal gas..

terakhir kali gw liat mbl dgn link pedal gas dibwh itu mbl bokap (mitsu pikap) thn 86-87
klo ga salah ingat ya, soalnya udh lama sekali

[maskopat]

jualan banyak, malah paling banyak, tapi rugi... kira2 kenapa ya? apakah margin keuntungan terlalu tipis?
gimana perusahaan2 lain yang jualannya lebih sedikit kayak mitsu, suzuki, honda dan nissan?

eh, tapi tulisannya rugi operasional. ini maksudnya apa? kayaknya belum net loss deh.
kagak ngarti nih finance....
om risol... mana nih jagonya ekonomi mobil2an... om risol....

[FortunerMan]

Sudah bertubi tubi masalahpun...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/2 ... 37769.html

Toyota sold more than 34,000 Camrys in December, making the midsize sedan America's best-selling car. It commands 3.4 percent of the U.S. market and sales rose 38 percent from a year earlier. Sales of the Corolla and Matrix, a small sedan and a hatchback, totaled 34,220 last month, making up 3.3 percent of the market and sales up nearly 55 percent from December of 2008.

kekekek.... mau liat sales lagi ya?
toyota masih rugi besar bowks!
http://oto.detik.com/read/2010/01/27/16 ... tahun-2010

Namun begitu, untuk tahun fiskal yang akan berakhir pada Maret 2010 ini, Toyota
malah diperkirakan akan mengalami kerugian operasional hingga US$ 3,9 miliar
atau sekitar Rp 38,2 triliun.

bahkan ada kemungkinan rugi 3 thn berturut2
http://oto.detik.com/read/2009/06/25/14 ... asih-berat

"Kami ingin melakukan hal-hal yang mungkin untuk menghindari kerugian selama 3 tahun berturut-turut," ujar Toyoda.

mknya om Akio... jgn sales terus yg dikejar, P&L ga diperhatiin
mau kejar volume ya om? biar rugi yg pntg sales terbesar?

Mau ngomongin untung rugi lawan GM? Bwahahahaha...GM udah rugi berapa tahun mas? bwahahahahaha...tau kan baru BANGKRUT? And STILL making bad cars. P&L? Bwahahahahahahaha....jaman ekonomi sehat GM merugi, jaman ekonomi sulit dia bangkrut...kok masih ngomong P&L...GM jagonya di "Loss" nya doang.

Tiru Ford dikit dong...nggak ngemis2 ke pemerintahnya, udah untung pula skrg,. Di Indonesia pun dikasi tough cars dan European designed and engineered Fords. Jangan Korean designed junk semua yg dibawa kesini...

Soal profesionalisme Toyota di segala jajaran, itu cuman yg ane rasakan, bukan berarti semuanya..sepanjang masa. Emangnya ane ketemu pimpinannya? Paling ketemu montir, service advisor, sales. Ngerti kan perbedaan pengalaman pribadi vs seluruh pegawai Toyota? ck ck ck

[FortunerMan]

Nampaknya menyebar ke Ford juga...dgn supplier part yg sama

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o ... le1447265/

Ford Motor Co. (F-N11.41-0.14-1.21%) has halted production of some full-sized commercial vehicles in China because they contain gas pedals built by the same company behind the accelerators in Toyota Motor Corp.'s recent recall.

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jualan banyak, malah paling banyak, tapi rugi... kira2 kenapa ya? apakah margin keuntungan terlalu tipis?
gimana perusahaan2 lain yang jualannya lebih sedikit kayak mitsu, suzuki, honda dan nissan?

eh, tapi tulisannya rugi operasional. ini maksudnya apa? kayaknya belum net loss deh.
kagak ngarti nih finance....
om risol... mana nih jagonya ekonomi mobil2an... om risol....

kyknya kasusnya hmpr sama spt Old GM
market leader sampai 2007, tp ternyata sejak 2005 udh merugi terus (terakhir untung 2004)
2010 diprediksi new GM bisa untung
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/0 ... 14391.html

jual banyak tp rugi?
- margin vs masalah... begitu ada mslh, margin tdk bisa nutup ongkos
- inventory tinggi, brg nyangkut di diler (old GM kena plg parah dsini)
- jual rugi demi image (volume prioritas utama, profit dibelakang... yg pntg jadi no.1)
- inefisien, force majeur, hutang, dll

dan loss-nya toyota ini trnyata udh diprediksi ama para analist

[FortunerMan]

ane menarik kutipan ini:

Di Indonesia, Bansar meyakini mobil Toyota sudah tidak mengapliaksikan pedal gas
dengan link di bawah, semua link atau pengaitnya berada di antara dinding mesin
dan lantai kabin penumpang atau menggantung. "Toyota di Indonesia sudah tidak
mengaplikasin pedal gas yang linknya di bawah tetapi sudah menggantung," tegas
Bansar.

kesannya TAM lebih hebat daripada toyota US...

kijang super sih udah gak pake link di bawah, tapi di atas... mobil jadoel...
kasihan banget ya toyota US... ketinggalan lebih 20 tahun daripada toyota indonesia untuk aplikasi link pedal gas..

terakhir kali gw liat mbl dgn link pedal gas dibwh itu mbl bokap (mitsu pikap) thn 86-87
klo ga salah ingat ya, soalnya udh lama sekali

BMW 525 E34 thn 94 ane dulu masih pake link dibawah...

[FortunerMan]

kyknya kasusnya hmpr sama spt Old GM
market leader sampai 2007, tp ternyata sejak 2005 udh merugi terus (terakhir untung 2004)
2010 diprediksi new GM bisa untung
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/0 ... 14391.html

jual banyak tp rugi?
- margin vs masalah... begitu ada mslh, margin tdk bisa nutup ongkos
- inventory tinggi, brg nyangkut di diler (old GM kena plg parah dsini)
- jual rugi demi image (volume prioritas utama, profit dibelakang... yg pntg jadi no.1)
- inefisien, force majeur, hutang, dll

dan loss-nya toyota ini trnyata udh diprediksi ama para analist

Old GM made bad and ugly cars selama 2 dekade - kecuali SUV2 ladder frame dan truck2nya yg terkenal kuat. Quality rating bobrok. Di jaman perusahaan lain jaya, GM kembangh kempis. Disaat krisis, mereka mengemis ke Uncle Sam...kalo gak ngemis, sudah tidak ada lagi GM.

Tidak sama dgn Toyota sekarang, yg mengejar ekspansi...tapi kebesaran ekspansi trus kepergok krisis ekonomi. Quality dan reliability rating Toyota masih di papan atas, even with the recalls.

[maskopat]

setahu ane, mobil2 sport masih pake link di bawah. rem, gas dan kopling pake link di bawah...

[FortunerMan]

setahu ane, mobil2 sport masih pake link di bawah. rem, gas dan kopling pake link di bawah...

Sampe skrg BMW masih pake gas link di bawah...


Tapi yg jelas, Camry dimana pun tidak pake link bawah seperti kata org TAM - itu bohong. Hare gene jaman informasi masih mau ngibul...

[Captivated]

Mau ngomongin untung rugi lawan GM? Bwahahahaha...GM udah rugi berapa tahun mas? bwahahahahaha...tau kan baru BANGKRUT? And STILL making bad cars. P&L? Bwahahahahahahaha....jaman ekonomi sehat GM merugi, jaman ekonomi sulit dia bangkrut...kok masih ngomong P&L...GM jagonya di "Loss" nya doang.

Tiru Ford dikit dong...nggak ngemis2 ke pemerintahnya, udah untung pula skrg,. Di Indonesia pun dikasi tough cars dan European designed and engineered Fords. Jangan Korean designed junk semua yg dibawa kesini...

Soal profesionalisme Toyota di segala jajaran, itu cuman yg ane rasakan, bukan berarti semuanya..sepanjang masa. Emangnya ane ketemu pimpinannya? Paling ketemu montir, service advisor, sales. Ngerti kan perbedaan pengalaman pribadi vs seluruh pegawai Toyota? ck ck ck

hahahahaa.... parah ni org, oot lg oot lg. liat judul tred, apa kita ngebahas GM?
sapa bilang ford ga ngemis? ngemis juga dia http://current.com/items/89499784_gm-fo ... -loans.htm
dan ternyata toyota jg prnh ngemis http://oto.detik.com/read/2009/03/05/13 ... n-chrysler

ok kita ngomong ttg GM... tau beda old GM dan new GM ga? yg kena bangkruptcy GM seluruh dunia ato cuma GM USA? weleh2....
2009 GM msh rugi kyknya, tp gedean mana ama ruginya toyota?
kedepannya?

GM mulai bayar hutang 5 thn lbh cepat, bhkn diprediksi bisa lunas di 2011 (4thn lbh cpt)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33958644/ns/business-autos/

prediksi untung 2010
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/0 ... 14391.html

btw, 2010 toyota diprediksi untung apa rugi ya? bisa rugi 3thn berturut2 loh (ini kata om Akio Toyoda, bukan kt gw)
plagiat pula

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Old GM made bad and ugly cars selama 2 dekade - kecuali SUV2 ladder frame dan truck2nya yg terkenal kuat. Quality rating bobrok. Di jaman perusahaan lain jaya, GM kembangh kempis. Disaat krisis, mereka mengemis ke Uncle Sam...kalo gak ngemis, sudah tidak ada lagi GM.

Tidak sama dgn Toyota sekarang, yg mengejar ekspansi...tapi kebesaran ekspansi trus kepergok krisis ekonomi. Quality dan reliability rating Toyota masih di papan atas, even with the recalls.

quality n reliability... berdasarkan survey? jd power, CR, ...
yg disurvey siapa? pembeli mobil, right?
yah, gmn mau muncul komplain, wong mulutnya konsumer yg komplain udah "disumpal" duluan

how u explain this :

- blame human error in cases where owners claimed vehicle defects.
- involved in accidents causing 19 fatalities since 2001, more deaths from that problem than all other automakers combined.
- A computerized search of NHTSA records by The Times has found Toyota issued eight previous recalls related to unintended acceleration since 2000, more than any other automaker.
- Currently, Toyota is a defendant in at least 10 lawsuits alleging unintended acceleration that caused five fatalities and four injuries. Two of those suits are seeking class-action status.
- Documents entered in four lawsuits filed in Los Angeles this year, however, show that Toyota had received numerous consumer complaints dating from 2000 and had replaced dozens of the parts under warranty. The documents also show that Japanese police, in an investigation of the defect, said that Toyota employees had known about the problem since 1992 and should have initiated a recall immediately.
- In 2007, California's Court of Appeal found that "Toyota had intentionally violated two orders compelling discovery" of stability test results in a case involving a Toyota-made forklift that tipped over and killed a worker. The court slapped Toyota with a $138,984.33 sanction and ordered a new trial. Toyota, which denied wrongdoing, ultimately settled the case.

[asudarsono]

Toyota di Indonesia lain bos, makanya aman2 saja nggak ada recall.

[FortunerMan]

Old GM made bad and ugly cars selama 2 dekade - kecuali SUV2 ladder frame dan truck2nya yg terkenal kuat. Quality rating bobrok. Di jaman perusahaan lain jaya, GM kembangh kempis. Disaat krisis, mereka mengemis ke Uncle Sam...kalo gak ngemis, sudah tidak ada lagi GM.

Tidak sama dgn Toyota sekarang, yg mengejar ekspansi...tapi kebesaran ekspansi trus kepergok krisis ekonomi. Quality dan reliability rating Toyota masih di papan atas, even with the recalls.

quality n reliability... berdasarkan survey? jd power, CR, ...
yg disurvey siapa? pembeli mobil, right?
yah, gmn mau muncul komplain, wong mulutnya konsumer yg komplain udah "disumpal" duluan

how u explain this :

- blame human error in cases where owners claimed vehicle defects.
- involved in accidents causing 19 fatalities since 2001, more deaths from that problem than all other automakers combined.
- A computerized search of NHTSA records by The Times has found Toyota issued eight previous recalls related to unintended acceleration since 2000, more than any other automaker.
- Currently, Toyota is a defendant in at least 10 lawsuits alleging unintended acceleration that caused five fatalities and four injuries. Two of those suits are seeking class-action status.
- Documents entered in four lawsuits filed in Los Angeles this year, however, show that Toyota had received numerous consumer complaints dating from 2000 and had replaced dozens of the parts under warranty. The documents also show that Japanese police, in an investigation of the defect, said that Toyota employees had known about the problem since 1992 and should have initiated a recall immediately.
- In 2007, California's Court of Appeal found that "Toyota had intentionally violated two orders compelling discovery" of stability test results in a case involving a Toyota-made forklift that tipped over and killed a worker. The court slapped Toyota with a $138,984.33 sanction and ordered a new trial. Toyota, which denied wrongdoing, ultimately settled the case.

Kenyataan aja, resale value. Darimana datangnya resale value? Pemberian gratis dari konsumen karena cintanya pada orang Jepang dan Toyota? Tidak. Resale value datang dari anggapan konsumen bahwa kendaraan tersebut layak dipinang sebagai mobil bekas. Pasar tidak bego.

Disumpal duluan? Berrrrrjuta juta orang di seluruh dunia disumpal duluan? Banyak banget duit Toyota ya...

[datsu]

http://otomotif.vivanews.com/news/read/ ... an_ditarik

waaah, H tegak juga sering koq... lagian kenapa sih anti bgt ama recall? aneh....
H tegak juga sering menang survey JD Power.. jadi sering nyumpal juga kan? emangnya disumpal salah ya?? gw udah 2 kali klaim ke auto2000 tentang berbagai masalah dan tanggapan mereka memang sangat cepat!! mereka sangat berharap tidak perlu ada yang klaim lewat koran... biasa kan? toh konsumen koq yg untung...

*siap2 ANJ gw bisa kena recall juga...qeqeqe...*

[FortunerMan]

Mau ngomongin untung rugi lawan GM? Bwahahahaha...GM udah rugi berapa tahun mas? bwahahahahaha...tau kan baru BANGKRUT? And STILL making bad cars. P&L? Bwahahahahahahaha....jaman ekonomi sehat GM merugi, jaman ekonomi sulit dia bangkrut...kok masih ngomong P&L...GM jagonya di "Loss" nya doang.

Tiru Ford dikit dong...nggak ngemis2 ke pemerintahnya, udah untung pula skrg,. Di Indonesia pun dikasi tough cars dan European designed and engineered Fords. Jangan Korean designed junk semua yg dibawa kesini...

Soal profesionalisme Toyota di segala jajaran, itu cuman yg ane rasakan, bukan berarti semuanya..sepanjang masa. Emangnya ane ketemu pimpinannya? Paling ketemu montir, service advisor, sales. Ngerti kan perbedaan pengalaman pribadi vs seluruh pegawai Toyota? ck ck ck

hahahahaa.... parah ni org, oot lg oot lg. liat judul tred, apa kita ngebahas GM?
sapa bilang ford ga ngemis? ngemis juga dia http://current.com/items/89499784_gm-fo ... -loans.htm
dan ternyata toyota jg prnh ngemis http://oto.detik.com/read/2009/03/05/13 ... n-chrysler

ok kita ngomong ttg GM... tau beda old GM dan new GM ga? yg kena bangkruptcy GM seluruh dunia ato cuma GM USA? weleh2....
2009 GM msh rugi kyknya, tp gedean mana ama ruginya toyota?
kedepannya?

GM mulai bayar hutang 5 thn lbh cepat, bhkn diprediksi bisa lunas di 2011 (4thn lbh cpt)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33958644/ns/business-autos/

prediksi untung 2010
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/0 ... 14391.html

btw, 2010 toyota diprediksi untung apa rugi ya? bisa rugi 3thn berturut2 loh (ini kata om Akio Toyoda, bukan kt gw)
plagiat pula

Baru prediksi untung kok udah nyombong Old GM dan new GM itu istilah marketing, it's the same company. Bangkrut yg mana? ya iyalah badan usaha resminya beda, TAM juga badan usaha sendiri di Indonesia, emangnya kalo Toyota Jepang bangkrut dan tutup nggak pengaruh sama TAM?

GM and Chrysler are in desperate need of government money and may not last until the end of the year without it.

Ford is reaping the benefits that go with being the only U.S. automaker not to take a bailout.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... l-for-ford
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/ca ... t-Bailout/

The company is not alone, according to the Wall Street Journal. "Honda Motor Co. said it is seeking a government loan to help shore up funds at its U.S. operations, becoming the latest Japanese auto maker to ask for Tokyo's help in doing business abroad." A separate Bloomberg report adds, "Mazda Motor Corp. is also considering a request for government loans, spokesman Toyota Tanaka said today."

Ya beda lah org ngemis ikut2an sama ngemis udah mau mampus. Ford pada akhirnya tidak ambil loan pemerintah. Honda dan Mazda juga cari loan, tapi mereka gak akan mati tanpa loannya. Beda sama GM/Chrysler....gak ada sedekah rakyat Amerika mereka udah gulung tikar.

[FortunerMan]

http://otomotif.vivanews.com/news/read/ ... an_ditarik

waaah, H tegak juga sering koq... lagian kenapa sih anti bgt ama recall? aneh....
H tegak juga sering menang survey JD Power.. jadi sering nyumpal juga kan? emangnya disumpal salah ya?? gw udah 2 kali klaim ke auto2000 tentang berbagai masalah dan tanggapan mereka memang sangat cepat!! mereka sangat berharap tidak perlu ada yang klaim lewat koran... biasa kan? toh konsumen koq yg untung...

*siap2 ANJ gw bisa kena recall juga...qeqeqe...*

Honda juga banyak duitnya nyumpal orang GM gak ada duitnya buat nyumpal orang jadi surveynya jelek...gitu lho logikanya

Recall emang biasa terjadi, biasa aja... http://www.mylemon.com/blog/2008/10/10- ... f-all.html

#10 Ford 1987 (3.6 million vehicles)
Engine-compartment fires caused by faulty fuel-line connectors compelled Ford to issue this recall in 1987. While not the biggest in terms of vehicle numbers, this recall may be the widest: affected vehicles included virtually every model Ford made, including F150-350 trucks, and all Lincoln and Mercury models.

#9 GM 2004 (3.6 million vehicles)
From 1999 to 2004, tailgating took on a new dimension for the 134 customers who suffered minor accidents from collapsing tailgates. Corroded cables were the culprits. In 2004, GM offered to replace the tailgate cables on Silverados, Sierras, Escalades, and Avalanches. In their defense, it should be noted that customers are clearly warned not to stand on open tailgates. At least 134 have not read that part of the owner's manual.

#8 Volkswagen 1972 (3.7 million vehicles)
Lost visibility can be just as dangerous as fire or a failing seatbelt. Some Volkswagen of America customers found this out the hard way when their windshield wiper arms worked themselves loose and went spinning off into the rain or snow. So in 1972, Volkswagen offered to replace the part in Bugs built between 1949 and 1969.

#7 Honda 1995 (3.7 million vehicles)
In 1995, American Honda Motor Co. dealt with a serious concern in some of its models. Cracked and disintegrating safety-belt release buttons were causing belts to fail or-just as potentially dangerous-trapping passengers in their cars after an accident. The recall included Civic, Prelude, Accord, Acura, Legend, Integra, and NSX models.

#6 GM 1973 (3.7 million vehicles)
The ability to control where your car actually goes is important. GM saw the truth of this in 1973 when they agreed to install engine shields to prevent stones from disabling the steering assembly. 18 models were affected: Centurion, Electra, Estate Wagon, LeSabre, Riviera, Belair, Biscayne, Brookwood, Caprice, Impala, Kingswood, Kingswood Estate, Townsmen, Olds 88 and 98, Bonneville, Grand Ville, and Catalina.

#5. Ford 1971 (4.1 million vehicles)
Seatbelt shoulder harnesses on 1970 and '71 Ford Rancheros, Lincolns, Mercurys, and Fords (yes, there was at one time a Ford Ford) had an annoying tendency to fray and detach from the metal holding it to the frame. And though few drivers were even wearing seatbelts back then, Ford did the right thing and issued the recall.

#4 GM 1981 (5.8 million vehicles)
Some drivers learned the hard way that suspension bolts in certain GM models had a way of wiggling themselves loose. The result? The loss of ability to steer the car. In 1981, GM offered to replace the dubious bolts in the Century, Regal, El Camino, Malibu, Monte Carlo, Caballero, Cutlass, Grand Prix, and Lemans.

#3. GM 1971 (6.7 million vehicles)
In 1971, some GM customers got the ride of their lives as engine mounts began separating from frames and falling back onto throttles. The models with these rocket-like tendencies included Belair, Brookwood, Camaro, Caprice, Chevrolet, Chevy II, G Series, Impala, Kingswood, Nova, P Series, C Series, and Townsmen.

#2. Ford 1996 (8.6 million vehicles)
In 1996, after customers complained of fires caused by faulty ignition systems, Ford Motor Co. recalled vehicles including 1998-'93 Escorts, Mustangs, Tempos, Thunderbirds, Cougars, Crown Vics, Grand Marquis, Lincoln Town Cars, Aerostars, Broncos, and F-series trucks.

#1 Ford 2008 (12 million vehicles)
In February of 2008, Ford issued the industry's largest-ever recall, affecting Lincoln and Mercury SUVs, pickups, cars, and vans of model years '93 to '04. The lowly cruise-control switch was behind this mother-of-all do-overs. It had a nasty habit of catching fire, sometimes hours after the vehicle had been parked and turned off. Owner response, however, has been slow, so in a rare move Ford reissued the recall in September of 2008 for the 5 million vehicles still unrepaired.

[maskopat]

hihihi... wong lagi ngomongin ujian berat yang dialami toyota, malah melenceng ke kasus GM, ford, chrysler...

lebih enak bicara fakta apa yang terjadi dengan toyota. apakah issue suap2an dan menutup2i itu hoax atau bukan. trus, kenapa masalah pedal berakibat pada mensuspens produksi mobil2 yang terkena dampak... biar lebih enak gitu ngobrolnya..

[FortunerMan]

Biasa aja lah recall2an...cuman ini hebohnya karena Toyota, yg reputasi qualitynya bagus. Merek lain akan take advantage, wajar2 sajalah...persaingan bisnis.

Yg lucu yg berlagak mereknya gak pernah recall aja...santai gitchu lhooo...