[WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

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duit kluar bukan kantong jebol dong..kantong kempes..:D :D hehe
knapa ga ganti innova aja yang ga rewel2an...?
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uda ada itu:p
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@iwang: bener om, biasanya orang yg udah betah di mercy ga bakal mau beralih ke merk laen....ga usah jauh2 deh kayak mitoha ane aje....berapapun taonnya yg penting mercy :mrgreen: mau merk laen bikin mobil super mewah kek, super kenceng kek, anti mogok kek, anti peluru kek,, tetep aja dibilang kaleng krupuk :)
ato istilahnya kalo udah biasa pake sen di sebelah kiri jadi lupa pake sen kanan :upss:
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what is the maksud of mitoha? :upss:
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ZombiEE wrote:what is the maksud of mitoha? :upss:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: mitoha = father in law alias mertua :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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ooo..hihihi..ah..buat ane penasaran saja...kirain merk mobil yg kenceng :big_weee: :roll: :upss: :mrgreen:
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mitoha = mitsubishi toyota honda
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Risol1 wrote:
zweifellos wrote:@om risol1: kenapa ya colt diesel dibilang tenaganya boyo dan sepertinya dyna jauh lebih bertenaga dari colt diesel? bagaimana sebenarnya perbandingan tenaga mereka? kalo saya perhatikan sekilas, ga begitu jauh perbedaan tenaga mereka (mirip2 aja) tapi kesan yang saya dapat malah sebaliknya (dyna seperti jauh lebih bertenaga daripada colt diesel)?.
hehehehe....sori om Zweifellos: omongan saya, mandala1, jombie, sama maskopat diatas jangan didengerin om........ :mrgreen:
kita2 cuma guyon aja koq soalnya om Kopat agak "jumpy" kalo ngomongin Mitsu hehehehe.....Saya cuma balikkin aja dari cirinya mitsu: Kenceng dibilang pelan, onderdil tahan lama dibilang cepet rusak, hehehe.....cuma pure guyon ajah :mrgreen:
wakakakka asem manis dah. saya kira beneran. saya dah cari info ke situs toyota dyna, gitupun ke colt diesel buat ngebandingin tenaganya tapi ga nemu juga apa yang om risol bilang karena awalnya saya emang ga tau sama sekali . eh ternyata oh ternyata. :mrgreen:
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dyna/delta sama koldisel pan cuma beda di gearingnya...dyna lebih berasa bertenaga, low gearing..tapi kl mau kebut ya koldisel..

selain itu sih, kalo koldisel sasisnya ga di reinforce, terlalu lentur..jadi gampang terbalik (lambat rebound-nya waktu goyang)..makanya rata2 sasisnya dilas semua, ada tambah daging sama pasang stressbolts/baut tarik..

karena itu rata2 truk singkong/sawit pakenya dyna/rhino..sasisnya lebih kaku..dari kecil saya udah tau beginian, banyak temen2 yang bawa/punya truk, sering nolongin mbl tebalik..heheh asik deh kalo liat truk bawa singkong di ladang...atau truk sawit..goyangnya ga tahan..
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palagi jumpa lobang dalam di perkebunan dgn muatan penuh....silap2 gak imbang truk nya terbalik
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iwang wrote:mitoha = mitsubishi toyota honda
Huaaahahahaha............hebat.....hebat..... :e-clap: :e-clap: :big_peace:
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iwang wrote:dyna/delta sama koldisel pan cuma beda di gearingnya...dyna lebih berasa bertenaga, low gearing..tapi kl mau kebut ya koldisel...
Betul om, karena standar gear set nya di CD 40x6 sedangkan di dyna 37x6 tapi kalo yg di dyna2 tipe terbaru sudah menggunakan 39x6 (ngebut oke, tanjakan hayuk),, jadi dyna skr mau adu kebut dgn cd pun udah berani :) apalagi yg tipe 140GT, double chasis 4600cc + turbo intercooler,, mitsu mah minggir deh.... :mrgreen:


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ya mitsu sekarang udah banyak pengaruh daimler AG..jadi tetep aja merc vs toyota..:D :D
itu hino punya toyota juga kan?
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bagaimana kalo dilihat dari segi biaya pembiayaan pengoperasian dari berbagai merk truck ukuran sedang tersebut?
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mandala1 wrote:
iwang wrote:dyna/delta sama koldisel pan cuma beda di gearingnya...dyna lebih berasa bertenaga, low gearing..tapi kl mau kebut ya koldisel...
Betul om, karena standar gear set nya di CD 40x6 sedangkan di dyna 37x6 tapi kalo yg di dyna2 tipe terbaru sudah menggunakan 39x6 (ngebut oke, tanjakan hayuk),, jadi dyna skr mau adu kebut dgn cd pun udah berani :) apalagi yg tipe 140GT, double chasis 4600cc + turbo intercooler,, mitsu mah minggir deh.... :mrgreen:


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masi mau yah?uwakakakakakakka :big_weee:
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zweifellos wrote:bagaimana kalo dilihat dari segi biaya pembiayaan pengoperasian dari berbagai merk truck ukuran sedang tersebut?
Maksudnya di segi maintenance n harga suku cadang asli gitu yah om zwei?
Jadi gini...kalo buat biaya belanja suku cadang asli memang jauh lebih murah CD, karena apa? Sebetulnya parts yg digunakan di CD dari thn 80'an sampe sekarang kurang lebih yah itu2 aja barangnya, paling ada modif2 dikit penambahan ini itu untuk perbaikan kinerja truk,, basic nya sih sama aja..... N tentu harga2 parts CD ga semahal parts dyna, malah diantaranya ada yg sampai selisih 6 kali lipatnya,,
Enaknya lagi onderdil CD banyak sekali parts kw nya yg kalo boleh dibilang seandainya mogok di tengah hutan pun ga usah khawatir, soalnya pasti ada yg jual barangnya :)
Kalo Dyna/Delta seperti yg pernah om iwang bilang,, rata2 onderdilnya harus pake asli n memang betul....apalagi di dyna tipe2 terbaru paling pantang pake jeroan mesin kw ga akan berhasil sempurna,, kalo sy pikir emang rada ga masuk akal, tapi emang begitu kenyataannya di lapangan,, sparepart masih jarang yg menyediakan toko2 eceran kecil biasanya ga ada, harus cari ke workshop yg lumayan besar, mungkin karena harga parts aslinya mahal2 jadi pada males stok :)
Tapi sekali lagi semua ada timbal baliknya : harga parts murah tapi lebih gampang rusak, atau harga parts mahal tapi awet bertahun2 pake sampe puas..... :mrgreen:
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iwang wrote:ya mitsu sekarang udah banyak pengaruh daimler AG..jadi tetep aja merc vs toyota..:D :D
itu hino punya toyota juga kan?
Bukan punya toyota om, tapi udah bergabung ke group astra :D
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mandala1 wrote:
zweifellos wrote:bagaimana kalo dilihat dari segi biaya pembiayaan pengoperasian dari berbagai merk truck ukuran sedang tersebut?
Maksudnya di segi maintenance n harga suku cadang asli gitu yah om zwei?
Jadi gini...kalo buat biaya belanja suku cadang asli memang jauh lebih murah CD, karena apa? Sebetulnya parts yg digunakan di CD dari thn 80'an sampe sekarang kurang lebih yah itu2 aja barangnya, paling ada modif2 dikit penambahan ini itu untuk perbaikan kinerja truk,, basic nya sih sama aja..... N tentu harga2 parts CD ga semahal parts dyna, malah diantaranya ada yg sampai selisih 6 kali lipatnya,,
Enaknya lagi onderdil CD banyak sekali parts kw nya yg kalo boleh dibilang seandainya mogok di tengah hutan pun ga usah khawatir, soalnya pasti ada yg jual barangnya :)
Kalo Dyna/Delta seperti yg pernah om iwang bilang,, rata2 onderdilnya harus pake asli n memang betul....apalagi di dyna tipe2 terbaru paling pantang pake jeroan mesin kw ga akan berhasil sempurna,, kalo sy pikir emang rada ga masuk akal, tapi emang begitu kenyataannya di lapangan,, sparepart masih jarang yg menyediakan toko2 eceran kecil biasanya ga ada, harus cari ke workshop yg lumayan besar, mungkin karena harga parts aslinya mahal2 jadi pada males stok :)
Tapi sekali lagi semua ada timbal baliknya : harga parts murah tapi lebih gampang rusak, atau harga parts mahal tapi awet bertahun2 pake sampe puas..... :mrgreen:
iya om maksud saya gitu, salah nulis pulak. maksudnya biaya perawatan dan pengoperasian. thanks om infonya.

buat pemilik komersial yang bukan bermodal besar sepertinya lebih baik harganya murah meski lebih cepat rusak dibanding harganya mahal namun ga cepat rusak karena faktor keuangan (lebih enak nyediain uang 6 juta dibayar 10 kali dibanding sekali bayar). mungkin ini jadi faktor penting dalam memilih jenis mobil truk sedang.
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^^sama sama om :D betul om zwei,, tapi kalo sy sih pertimbangannya mending cari CD yg bekas yg taun2 97 s/d 2006'an secara di tahun2 segini partsnya pas lagi bagus2nya....(masih banyak jepangnya ketimbang lokalnya),, kalo yg taun2 skr sepertinya udah kurang kuat bahan2nya, karena emang di sengaja dibuat supaya murah :) kalo yg dibawah taun '97 khawatirnya udah banyak yg hancur2an malah tambah rephot deh..... :mrgreen:
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nah..gitu kan asik..aman dan nyaman:):) :big_peace:
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taon 97 an udah kabin jungkit yah..kabin jungkit itu udah mulai floor shifter bukan..? trus ada yang kepala lebar, canter yah..trus agak kecil lagi, lampu bulet, trus kotak, baru yang baru ini turbo intercooler..
beda harga myan sih sama dynasaurus, dyna 125jt dah dapet yang 2004/5an, barang jg seger2, merah kabinnya..
elf malah lebih murah lagi, tp koplingnya mayan keras..
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^^iya om, '97 akhir udah model kepala jungkit (FE300) versi faceliftnya di taon 2003'an lampu kotak n spion besar,, kalo yg kabin lebar itu namanya Ragasa (FE400) cuma ada 120ps n 135ps warnanya coklat susu, jarang2 yg pake ini :)
Kalo dyna yg model baru biasanya disebut Dynasaurus akrabnya dipanggil dyna LT/HT , warna std nya ada biru,merah,putih....kalo yg hino dutro tetep pake warna kebangsaan hino = hijau pucet,, ELF sih udah agak memble belakangan ini, paling yg laku juga model microbus nya buat travel,, tapi kalo mau adu ketahanan sih....jujur ELF paling kuat. :frm_tumbright:


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wahhh...om iwang sepertinya bekas supir truk neh...hapal bener luar dalam atas bawah tentang truck... :upss: :ngacir:
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ZombiEE wrote:nah..gitu kan asik..aman dan nyaman:):) :big_peace:
soalnya om zwei orangnya baik,jujur, polos, n ga nyebelin kayak om kopat :mrgreen: jadi ane ikhlas kasih info yg bener ke om zwei :upss:
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hihi cita2 masa kecil emang pengen jadi supir truk :D :D