Grand Vitara 2.4

[FortunerMan]

http://www.motiontrends.com/2005/m09eng ... tara.shtml

The Grand Vitara is derived, with significant changes, from General Motors' Theta platform

he Grand Vitara comes with a structural difference, adopting a new lightweight, rigid monocoque body (unibody, unitary construction, rather than the traditional body-on-frame structure), but with a built-in ladder frame to give additional off-road competence.

Canggih amat Taruna

[Mixer]

kalo GV 2.0 juga RWD kan?...emang nambah brp tenaganya dr GV 2.0 >> GV 2.4?

[AD74YA]

Mengecewakan.

[Abu2]

kalo GV 2.0 juga RWD kan?...emang nambah brp tenaganya dr GV 2.0 >> GV 2.4?

Engine: (J24B) 2.4 liter DOHC 16-valve inline-4
Power: 166 PS @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 225 Nm @ 4000 rpm

naik 26hp
naik 43nm

[naldo]

4x4 ga mungkin om, ga laku di indo. Contoh seperti Xtrail 4x4 yang dulu, penjualan mati itu. Percuma, cuma menang di harga, lebih lemot tarikannya n lebih berat.

Kalau memang dipakai sama orang indo, mungkin dimasukkin. Kebanyakan SUV kan onroad, bukan offroad. Itu aja sih pertimbangannya. Pajak ga karuan buat 4x4...

[FortunerMan]

Iya emang gak harus laku, kan cuman buat penarik minat aja...image builder. Soalnya selain harga lebih murah, gak ada lagi keunggulan GV 4x2 yg bisa ditonjolkan - padahal kalo ada versi 4x4 nya, bisa ditunjukkan platform GV yang lebih kuat dr CR-V atau Captiva. Tapi karena gak ada versi 4x4 nya...keunggulan GV tinggal di harga aja. Vitara jaman dulu aja ada 4x4 nya...masa mundur.

Differentiation in marketing aja, selain price.

[GTR]

sementara yg model v6 dulu...

http://www.edmunds.com/suzuki/grandvita ... eview.html
Summary
What Edmunds.com says
Despite a less-than-impressive standard V6 engine, the 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara remains a viable choice for those in the market for a small crossover SUV, thanks to abundant standard features, above-average off-road ability and a price point below its top-of-the-line competitors.
Pros
Elegantly appointed cabin, capable all-around performance, extensive standard features list, 100,000-mile/seven-year powertrain warranty.
Cons
Underwhelming V6 engine's acceleration and fuel economy, lack of interior storage compartments.
What's New for 2008
The 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara sees only minor enhancements. These include better sound deadening, redesigned climate controls and a remote fuel door release. A sunroof also becomes standard on the XSport and Luxury trim levels.

2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara Vehicle Overview
Introduction
A quick quiz before we go any further. Is leftover chocolate cake for dessert or for breakfast? For some, it's an easy choice. But there are those who ask, why not both? Some people feel the same about an SUV. Does it tackle rutted fire roads like a champ or does it haul a small crowd to the Cheesecake Factory in comfort and style? Why can't it do both? Well, for this cake-and-eat-it-too small-SUV buyer, there's the 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara.
To achieve the seemingly competing goals of on-road manners and off-road agility, the Grand Vitara has a couple of distinctive design elements. Like almost all other small SUVs, this Suzuki has carlike unibody construction. But in an unusual twist, Suzuki's designers kept off-road prowess in mind by integrating a ladder frame into the unibody design for improved flexibility and ruggedness. Additionally, the Grand Vitara has rear-wheel drive as standard (four-wheel drive with low-range gearing is optional) unlike most other competing models, which are front-wheel or all-wheel drive.
The resulting vehicle which receives some minor enhancements for 2008 makes good on the promise to deliver comfort in the urban jungle without sacrificing utility in the mud, rocks and dust of the back country.
For a vehicle with a base price of less than $20,000, the 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara sports a long standard features list: V6 engine, traction and stability control, antilock brakes, automatic air-conditioning, steering-wheel-mounted audio controls and remote keyless entry. Moving up the trim level hierarchy to XSport or Luxury rewards buyers with the SmartPass keyless engine start system and other luxury touches.
With a substantial features list, upscale styling, build quality on par with others in its class, a competitive price (even when loaded with options) and Suzuki's seven-year/100,000-mile powertrain warranty, the Grand Vitara will appeal to shoppers looking for a small rear-wheel-drive SUV that strikes a good balance between the road and the trail. Our only major complaint is its sluggish V6, which we found to be underpowered in general, noisy while accelerating and disappointing in fuel economy. If you test-drive the Grand Vitara and don't find it to your liking, you might want to take a look at the Jeep Liberty (another dual-purpose small SUV) or other top small crossover SUVs such as the Honda CR-V, Nissan Rogue, Saturn Vue and Toyota RAV4.
Body Styles, Trim Levels, and Options
The 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara is a compact SUV that comes in three trim levels: base, XSport and Luxury. Well-equipped base models include automatic climate control, cruise control, remote keyless entry, full power accessories and an MP3/CD stereo with a six-disc changer, steering-wheel controls and speed-sensitive volume control. Step up to the XSport trim level and enjoy the addition of alloy wheels, a sunroof, roof rails and the SmartPass keyless start system. Springing for the fully loaded flagship Luxury model will garner premium features like 17-inch alloy wheels, leather seating heated front seats and silver and wood grain interior trim. There are no additional factory options.
Powertrains and Performance
The only engine available in the Suzuki Grand Vitara is a 2.7-liter V6, which delivers 185 horsepower and 184 pound-feet of torque -- paltry compared to the RAV4's V6 (at 269 hp and 246 lb-ft) and only approximately 20 hp and 23 lb-ft more than the Honda CR-V's four-cylinder engine offers. A five-speed manual transmission is standard on the base trim level only, with a five-speed automatic optional on the base model and standard on the Grand Vitara XSport and Luxury trim levels.
Unlike most other small SUVs, all Grand Vitara trim levels come with standard rear-wheel drive and optional full-time four-wheel drive (which brings standard heated outside mirrors with it). The latter has low-range capability as well as a neutral setting for flat towing behind other vehicles without odometer mileage accumulation, a bonus for RV owners. Fuel economy estimates, at 17 mpg in the city and 21 mpg on the highway for a 4WD model with the automatic transmission, are below average for a compact SUV. Expect a 0-60-mph time of about 9.4 seconds. And while not necessarily a top choice for major towing duty, the Grand Vitara can tug up to 3,000 pounds, a respectable figure given the competition's tow ratings.
Safety
The 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara's standard safety features are plentiful and advanced for a low-cost compact vehicle, and include stability control, traction control, antilock disc brakes, full-length side-curtain airbags and front seat side-impact airbags. In government crash tests, Suzuki's SUV earned four stars (out of a possible top score of five) for both driver and passenger in frontal crash protection. Side-impact tests resulted in a perfect five-star rating.
Interior Design and Special Features
Since its 2006 redesign, the five-passenger Grand Vitara's interior is one of the best we've seen in any Suzuki -- and competes well with compact SUV class leaders. Soft textures and flowing lines abound, with gauges taking up residence in a multilayered cluster with simulated aluminum trim. The Limited's leather is very nice to look at, but pales in comparison with the base and XSport's cloth seats when it comes to comfort.
While the sleek and attractive cabin feels (and is) roomy for a small SUV, interior storage compartments are lacking. So while passengers will be comfy and uncramped, they'll have to hold onto all of their personal items instead of stashing them in the car. Luggage capacity is a meager 24.4 cubic feet with the rear seats up -- not much compared with what's available from other small SUVs -- but folding down the 60/40-split rear seat reveals a more competitive 68.9 cubic feet of cargo space.
Driving Impressions
The 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara employs a ladder frame-reinforced unibody platform to accomplish its dual goals of on-road gentility and off-road dexterity. City driving feels smoother and more carlike compared to other body-on-frame truck-based SUVs, but competitors like the CR-V still surpass the Suzuki in terms of overall ride comfort.
When hills get steep and roads get muddy, the Grand Vitara's optional 4WD with low-range gearing and respectable-for-the-class 7.9 inches of ground clearance work to supply the small crossover SUV with admirable off-road prowess. During testing, our editors noted that the cabin stays fairly free from engine, road and wind noise at highway speeds, but the easily overwhelmed V6 engine becomes noisy during hard acceleration while delivering only mediocre power. Additionally, on rockier topographies, bumps and jostles are poorly isolated and the side-swinging rear door can make a good deal of noise, though with improved-for-2008 sound-deadening materials, this should be less of an issue.

[GTR]

Car and driver (GV v6):
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/com ... rison_test

2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara 4WD
Fifth Place: Mud Puppies
Among our soft-roaders, only the Jeep and the Suzuki felt genuinely trucklike, partly because both employ extra buttressing in their unibody construction. The Grand Vitara’s short windshield, thin A-pillars, high seating position, 3000-pound towing capacity, and taut ride encouraged that perception. Truckish or not, it held its own on Drummond Island’s twisty paved roads, despite more body roll than we’d prefer. Its steering, in particular, was a boon, telegraphing road textures and available grip.
Although the Suzuki resembles some sort of macho Freightliner, with a way-too-dark bad-boy interior to match, its cockpit dimensions aren’t vast. Among our nine sport-utes, the Grand Vitara offered the least front interior volume, the second-worst rear volume, and a back seat that was shoulder-to-shoulder misery for three.
Powered by a 185-hp twin-cam V-6, which was far louder at idle than any other engine here, our Suzuki was as slow to 60 mph as the Jeep. But the Grand Vitara is a big brute that feels as if it were pushing a lot of atmosphere. By the time it realized 100 mph, it had fallen 3.9 seconds behind the Liberty, and at interstate speeds, the Suzuki’s transmission often felt obliged to kick down a gear or two on barely perceptible upgrades.
Off-road, the Grand Vitara was pure [cencored], nearly as solid and capable as the Jeep, despite 1.6 fewer inches of ground clearance. Below the HVAC controls looms a big rotary dial that engages neutral, 4wd high, 4wd high lock, or 4wd low lock. In neutral, you can flat-tow the Suzuki behind your RV without racking up odo miles or spinning any gears. In low gear, with the center diff tied down, the Grand Vitara inched effortlessly over boulders and logs, placating those editors who are insecure about being seen driving anything that smacks of "mommy mobile."

[FortunerMan]

Off-road, the Grand Vitara was pure [cencored], nearly as solid and capable as the Jeep, despite 1.6 fewer inches of ground clearance. Below the HVAC controls looms a big rotary dial that engages neutral, 4wd high, 4wd high lock, or 4wd low lock. In neutral, you can flat-tow the Suzuki behind your RV without racking up odo miles or spinning any gears. In low gear, with the center diff tied down, the Grand Vitara inched effortlessly over boulders and logs, placating those editors who are insecure about being seen driving anything that smacks of "mommy mobile."

Highs: Strong in the muck, macho styling, as solid as a tank.

Lows: Cramped interior, noisy at idle, somber and soulless cockpit.

The Verdict:A mini SUV with the heart of a Hummer.

Nih liat, keunggulan kaya begini di buang percuma....sayang kan? Kenyamanan udah pasti kalah sama CR-V, tp GV punya keunggulan bisa enak/lincah on-road dan real off-roader yg CR-V ataupun Harrier sekalian pun gak bisa mimpi ngejabanin. Sayang sekali GV 4WD tidak diturunkan di Indonesia. Nearly as capable as a Jeep tuh katanya...harganya...miring!

[GTR]

Betul, utk kondisi di jalan off-road.
makanya overall rating tetep kalah dari yg lain, termasuk Jeep Liberty, test 4x4 tersebut pun melampaui berbagai lintasan light off-road dan on-road, menyesuaikan dengan advantages lain di real driving sehari2 yg bervariasi.
Penyesuaian di GV ini, dengan ke unibody dari body-on-frame.

[FortunerMan]

The 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara employs a ladder frame-reinforced unibody platform to accomplish its dual goals of on-road gentility and off-road dexterity

Bukan pure unibody kaya CR-V (apalagi kaya Taruna seperti anda bilang ), tapi unibody + built-in ladder frame. Makanya GV punya keunggulan disini, it is a stronger platform - bisa dipake on-road dan off-road. Dia ambil jalan tengah...unik.

Overall rating sih banyak komponennya, dr mesin sampai kualitas interior (yg GV kalah). Point saya, platform GV cukup gahar (dan lebih kuat dr crossover unibody biasa), tapi keunggulannya ini tidak di tonjolkan di Indonesia. Padahal dgn keunggulan harga + strong off-road capability (yg tidak dimiliki CR-V), GV akan sangat menarik.

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The 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara employs a ladder frame-reinforced unibody platform to accomplish its dual goals of on-road gentility and off-road dexterity

Bukan pure unibody kaya CR-V (apalagi kaya Taruna seperti anda bilang ), tapi unibody + built-in ladder frame. Makanya GV punya keunggulan disini, it is a stronger platform - bisa dipake on-road dan off-road. Dia ambil jalan tengah...unik.

Overall rating sih banyak komponennya, dr mesin sampai kualitas interior (yg GV kalah). Point saya, platform GV cukup gahar (dan lebih kuat dr crossover unibody biasa), tapi keunggulannya ini tidak di tonjolkan di Indonesia. Padahal dgn keunggulan harga + strong off-road capability (yg tidak dimiliki CR-V), GV akan sangat menarik.

karena ada beberapa istilah yang tidak biasa ditelinga, supaya lebih menjangkau masyarakat luas pada umumnya, mungkin kalimatnya bisa diganti "it is stronger platform cocok untuk di Indonesia yang jalannya babak belur.." (on-road serasa off-road...) Gub DKI : "emangnya memperbaiki jalan bisa cuma satu hari"

[ZombiEE]

makanya ane mikir2.....ibarat ini GV reputasi nya kuat spt merk2 laen..bukan gak mgkn penjualan merk laen ancur...ibarat nya gini...kombinasi kekuatan chassis dan kaki fortie dgn bodi kompak....fitur melimpah..hebat atuh..palagi 4x4 di bwh harga ciarpi dikit..mantab lahr...ngimpi.com

[GTR]

The 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara employs a ladder frame-reinforced unibody platform to accomplish its dual goals of on-road gentility and off-road dexterity

Bukan pure unibody kaya CR-V (apalagi kaya Taruna seperti anda bilang ), tapi unibody + built-in ladder frame. Makanya GV punya keunggulan disini, it is a stronger platform - bisa dipake on-road dan off-road. Dia ambil jalan tengah...unik.

Overall rating sih banyak komponennya, dr mesin sampai kualitas interior (yg GV kalah). Point saya, platform GV cukup gahar (dan lebih kuat dr crossover unibody biasa), tapi keunggulannya ini tidak di tonjolkan di Indonesia. Padahal dgn keunggulan harga + strong off-road capability (yg tidak dimiliki CR-V), GV akan sangat menarik.

dari 3 chassis, yg maksud saya konstruksi unibody ini bro...

Like almost all other small SUVs, this Suzuki has carlike unibody construction

Monocoque seperti di CRV Xtrail RAV4 dll, termasuk juga yg bukan basis sedan seperti touareg, dll; lengan2 suspensi diikat langsung ke monocoque (maupun yg sedikit terpisah) melalui sub-frame kecil contoh seperti pada rear suzuki aerio or sebagian sedan eropa.
Unibody itu ladder yg "ditempel"/dilas langsung menyatu dengan body (ga bisa dipisah) seperti di GV or taruna, keliatan di kolongnya, tidak seperti body-on-frame yg full-size & terpisah, disatukan dengan dibaut & dengan bantalan bushing2 karet.
Goal/performa unibody di kedua alam bisa dibilang dapet di dua2nya, bisa juga in between.

[FortunerMan]

Kayanya udah sepuluh kali deh di bilang, GV unibody tapi ada ladder-frame componentsnya...nggak sama kaya unibody biasa (CR-V).

Nih ke-11 kalinya
http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Suzuk ... test/5695/

The body on frame chassis, for instance, which is great for off-roading, is gone. Well, it's mostly gone. The unibody structure features integrated body on frame components, giving it the backbone that might otherwise overstress something like a CR-V's frame over heavy articulation. It's the same sort of tactic that Honda has used to beef up the Ridgeline, but it isn't as extreme as Land Rover's two-in-one chassis as found in the LR3 / Range Rover Sport.

Susah banget ya terima GV ada keunggulan dibanding merek favorit Santai aja bro, CR-V banyak keunggulan banding GV - tapi kalo soal kekuatan platform...GV wins.

[GTR]

he3 yg bilang ga ada ladder nya itu sapa ya

[FortunerMan]

he3 yg bilang ga ada ladder nya itu sapa ya

Yg jelas bukan kaya Taruna...come on...

[GTR]

Kayanya udah sepuluh kali deh di bilang, GV unibody tapi ada ladder-frame componentsnya...nggak sama kaya unibody biasa (CR-V).

Nih ke-11 kalinya
http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Suzuk ... test/5695/

The body on frame chassis, for instance, which is great for off-roading, is gone. Well, it's mostly gone. The unibody structure features integrated body on frame components, giving it the backbone that might otherwise overstress something like a CR-V's frame over heavy articulation. It's the same sort of tactic that Honda has used to beef up the Ridgeline, but it isn't as extreme as Land Rover's two-in-one chassis as found in the LR3 / Range Rover Sport.

Susah banget ya terima GV ada keunggulan dibanding merek favorit

sebentar2 yg bilang GV ga ada ladder nya itu sapa ya..
ladder GV itu menyatu dengan body nya.
Ridgeline = unibody, CRV = monocoque.
kan keunggulan & kekurangan GV juga udah ada di posting di atas dari review media2 kaliber.

[GTR]

Taruna ada laddernya, tapi seperti pada umumnya unibody, ga full-size seperti body-on-frame nya Feroza.
kaya gini keliatan kalo mobilnya sama2 diangkat, monoc dan unibody, di unibody, terutama di bawah dek sampai belakang ada frame menjulur yg tidak ada/jelas pada konstruksi monocoque.

[FortunerMan]

Monokok = unibody

Monocoque (French for "single shell") or unibody is a construction technique that utilizes the external skinning of an object to form some, or most, of the structure. This is as opposed to using an internal framework that is then covered with a non-structural skinning. Monocoque construction was first widely used in aircraft, starting in the 1930s.

Ridgeline bukan monokok/unibody biasa, tapi monokok/unibody yg diperkuat dgn ladder frame components. Sama kaya di GV (Kategori no.3 dibawah).

CR-V monokok/unibody murni, gak ada ladder2annya. Ini penjelasan lebih jelas dr Risoles...

IMO, secara garis besar frame mobil ada 3 macam:
1. Pure monokok/unibody: frame sedan ("SUV" yg pake frame ini misalnya sebangsa harrier dan CRV alias cuma sedan yg ditinggiin). Mereka sebenernya gak punya "chassis" tsb, chassis mereka adalah keseluruhan struktur kerangka mobil, mungkin termasuk platform dasarnya jg kali CMIIW.
2. Body on Frame: sering juga disebut frame truk (SUV yg pake frame ini misalnya sebangsa Fortuner dan Pathfinder). "Chassis" yg dimaksud disini adalah ladder framenya (besi yg berbentuk C) yg memanjang dari depan ke belakang tempat dudukan bodi mobil. Kalo bro maskopat bayangin sebuah truk, maka karakteristik2 truk bisa ditemukan di mobil2 jenis ini misal: lebih berat sehingga gak lincah/agile, mungkin juga lebih mahal karena biaya produksi lebih mahal, tapi kebagusannya adalah bisa haul lebih banyak beban, kapasitas narik/tow lebih gede, dll.......kaya truk lah pokoknya. Biasanya platform mobil2 body on frame adalah frame nya sendiri karena ladder framenya berfungsi sebagai wadah "penyambung" bagian atas dan bawah mobil.
3. Kombinasi keduanya: Teknologi ini lebih baru dari body on frame. Namanya juga beda2 tergantung pabrikan masing2. Ambil contoh punyanya frame Land Rover Discovery yg disebut Integrated Body Frame (IBF) yg mengkombinasi kedua jenis frame diatas, artinya ada bbrp part mobil yg dibikin sebagai monokok, ada juga bbrp part lain yg ditempel ke ladder frame. Kombinasi ini (integrate (bukan nempelin) frame/besi pada kerangka unibody) juga diterapkan pada banyak SUV2 monokok yg punya kemampuan off road diatas rata2 spt misalnya jeep cherokee. Jadi mobil2 ini walaupun masuk kategori SUV monokok, tapi bukan pure monokok seperti "sedan" di CRV/harrier.

Nah...GV termasuk kategori no.3, CR-V kategori no.1

[naldo]

Apa yang semuanya dibilang, memang benar, tapi mesin ini 2.4 bukan 2.7V6 dikasih 4x4. Memang keunggulan GV adalah kapabilitas offroad, tapi orang2 kota, tidak memakai fitur tersebut padahal harga lebih mahal. Seperti mobil 1M keatas, dimana Rangie, BMW, Merc, semua brand atas, tidak dipakai 4x4 canggihnya untuk offroad. Maka dari situlah sudah tidak mungkin GV bermain di kelas 4x4. Kalau banyak yang beli, mungkin masuk. Sayangnya, pasar 4x4 untuk kelas ini, sangat kecil, apalagi harganya yang bikin tidak masuk akal.

Thanks

[frank]

Koq dibikin jadi menyimpang yah, ada member yang nyebarin informasi menyesatkan nih disini...

Monokok = unibody

Monocoque (French for "single shell") or unibody is a construction technique that utilizes the external skinning of an object to form some, or most, of the structure. This is as opposed to using an internal framework that is then covered with a non-structural skinning. Monocoque construction was first widely used in aircraft, starting in the 1930s.

Ridgeline bukan monokok/unibody biasa, tapi monokok/unibody yg diperkuat dgn ladder frame components. Sama kaya di GV (Kategori no.3 dibawah).

CR-V monokok/unibody murni, gak ada ladder2annya.

info yang bener:

Monocoque, from Greek for single (mono) and French for shell (coque), is a construction technique that supports structural load by using an object's external skin as opposed to using an internal frame or truss that is then covered with a non-load-bearing skin. Monocoque construction was first widely used in aircraft in the 1930s. Structural skin or Stressed skin are another terms for the same concept.

Unibody, or unitary construction, is a related construction technique for automobiles in which the body is integrated into a single unit with the chassis rather than having a separate body-on-frame. The welded "Unit Body" is the predominant automobile construction technology today.

mana nih om momod....panggilan.. panggilan...

[FortunerMan]

Gimana? Emang cuman satu sumber info di internet Gawat...

http://knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Unibody/

Monocoque (French for "single shell") or unibody is a construction technique that utilizes the external skinning of an object to form some, or most, of the structure. This is as opposed to using an internal framework that is then covered with a non-structural skinning. Monocoque construction was first widely used in aircraft, starting in the 1930s.

Ada ribuan info lainnya di internet...mau?

mana nih om momod....panggilan.. panggilan...

Mending situ belajar nge-google dulu lol...

[frank]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monocoque

[FortunerMan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monocoque

1. Di Wikipedia pun itu menjelaskan hal yg sama. Les LIA dulu
2. Wikipedia tidak selalu benar, check and cross check dgn sumber lain

Selamat belajar.