Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 21

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Halo...

Silahkan dilanjutkan disini yah...

Part 20: viewtopic.php?t=33784&start=2475

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pak
DOHC wrote:
kapan nih thread hand tools lanjut ke part selanjutnya?
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sh00t wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:37 pak
DOHC wrote:
kapan nih thread hand tools lanjut ke part selanjutnya?
ketigax di tret paling ga ad jalan kluar dan konklusi nya...

tau tuh, ampe cape sembayangin pake kemenyan tiap malem rebo wage, biar cepet nambah2 tu tret, tetep aj ga manjur
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:38
sh00t wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:37 pak
DOHC wrote:
kapan nih thread hand tools lanjut ke part selanjutnya?
ketigax di tret paling ga ad jalan kluar dan konklusi nya...

tau tuh, ampe cape sembayangin pake kemenyan tiap malem rebo wage, biar cepet nambah2 tu tret, tetep aj ga manjur
Wkwkwkwkkw
Ngalahin tersanjung

Btw soal oil temp
Ini mbah salah satu contohnya

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DOHC wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:38
sh00t wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:37 pak
DOHC wrote:
kapan nih thread hand tools lanjut ke part selanjutnya?
ketigax di tret paling ga ad jalan kluar dan konklusi nya...

tau tuh, ampe cape sembayangin pake kemenyan tiap malem rebo wage, biar cepet nambah2 tu tret, tetep aj ga manjur
tumbalnya kurang kali pak.
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Suryaputra wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:11
DOHC wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:38
sh00t wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:37 pak kapan nih thread hand tools lanjut ke part selanjutnya?
ketigax di tret paling ga ad jalan kluar dan konklusi nya...

tau tuh, ampe cape sembayangin pake kemenyan tiap malem rebo wage, biar cepet nambah2 tu tret, tetep aj ga manjur
Wkwkwkwkkw
Ngalahin tersanjung

Btw soal oil temp
Ini mbah salah satu contohnya

Wah ini sih nyontohinya mobil racing lagi balapan, mesin nya aja beda kelas sama mobil kita yg pakai mesin spek taxi, pakai turbo pula.

Kalo di obd saya ga pernah tuh oil temp nya diatas coolant temp, mungkin obd/sensor saya yg error.
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t105erd wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:12
Suryaputra wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:11
DOHC wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:38

ketigax di tret paling ga ad jalan kluar dan konklusi nya...

tau tuh, ampe cape sembayangin pake kemenyan tiap malem rebo wage, biar cepet nambah2 tu tret, tetep aj ga manjur
Wkwkwkwkkw
Ngalahin tersanjung

Btw soal oil temp
Ini mbah salah satu contohnya

Wah ini sih nyontohinya mobil racing lagi balapan, mesin nya aja beda kelas sama mobil kita yg pakai mesin spek taxi, pakai turbo pula.

Kalo di obd saya ga pernah tuh oil temp nya diatas coolant temp, mungkin obd/sensor saya yg error.
Good klo ada oil temp reading nya :big_exellent:
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Oli temp mobil k3ve jadul. :big_childish:
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rudyzanetti wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:21 Oli temp mobil k3ve jadul. :big_childish:
Wow
Penguapan gmn mbah?
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kmrn lagi tune up sekalian copot cover klep pengen tau kondisi mesin...


2AZ-FE odo 124 rb km, pas beli 2nd di odo 117 rb km tuang PTT Flushing Oil trus ganti ke Pertamina Fastron Gold 5W30 & 0W-20
terakhir di odo 123.456 ganti ke Mobil 1 Triple Action 0W-20

segini masih aman atau better coba flushing treatment dulu pake oli diesel ya?
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Suryaputra wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:55
rudyzanetti wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:21 Oli temp mobil k3ve jadul. :big_childish:
Wow
Penguapan gmn mbah?
Aman om. Suhu segitu jg gara2 pedal gas rata lantai 60an km, pas awal2 tol Sumatera buka.
Tp memang nih xenia jadul oil temp nya rada tinggi. Posisi filter oli pas banget dipanggang header exhaust.
Keuntungannya sih , buat nyampe temperatur ideal oli di 100°c ga butuh waktu lama2 banget.
Jeleknya kalo high rpm terus2an ya kayak gt 😁.
Tp Aman lah, kayaknya batas atas suhu oli sampe 140an°c deh 🙄
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rudyzanetti wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:21 Oli temp mobil k3ve jadul. :big_childish:
Ini cara pasangnya gimana yah om? dulu saya mau pasang buat ECT tapi mesti bypass selang radiator buat dipasang sensor. Ribet takut rembes/banyak yg bilang kalo beli yg murah malah ga akurat jadinya beli yg cuma colok obd aja.
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Ngabsen dulu di pejwan baris 13

Mumpung lg tanggal 13 juga :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Sheer Repairing Pleasure :big_smoking:
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Suryaputra wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:11
DOHC wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:38
sh00t wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:37 pak kapan nih thread hand tools lanjut ke part selanjutnya?
ketigax di tret paling ga ad jalan kluar dan konklusi nya...

tau tuh, ampe cape sembayangin pake kemenyan tiap malem rebo wage, biar cepet nambah2 tu tret, tetep aj ga manjur
Wkwkwkwkkw
Ngalahin tersanjung

Btw soal oil temp
Ini mbah salah satu contohnya

kl d bejeg2 terus pantesan aj bsa melejit gt , sama kaya oli atf

tp kl pemakaian normal ampe beda jauh antara olmes dan coolant, berarti either oli mikrolet atau yah coolant nya pake aer marjan boudoin rasa cocopandan
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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t105erd wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:14
rudyzanetti wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:21 Oli temp mobil k3ve jadul. :big_childish:
Ini cara pasangnya gimana yah om? dulu saya mau pasang buat ECT tapi mesti bypass selang radiator buat dipasang sensor. Ribet takut rembes/banyak yg bilang kalo beli yg murah malah ga akurat jadinya beli yg cuma colok obd aja.
Kl oli temp, sensor di ECU nya emang ga ada. Mau dicolok pake obd jg ga bakal keluar om 😅
Itu ya saya pasang pake sandwich plate. Di Dobel di filter oli.
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DOHC wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:29
Suryaputra wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:11
DOHC wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:38

ketigax di tret paling ga ad jalan kluar dan konklusi nya...

tau tuh, ampe cape sembayangin pake kemenyan tiap malem rebo wage, biar cepet nambah2 tu tret, tetep aj ga manjur
Wkwkwkwkkw
Ngalahin tersanjung

Btw soal oil temp
Ini mbah salah satu contohnya

kl d bejeg2 terus pantesan aj bsa melejit gt , sama kaya oli atf

tp kl pemakaian normal ampe beda jauh antara olmes dan coolant, berarti either oli mikrolet atau yah coolant nya pake aer marjan boudoin rasa cocopandan
iya bener mbah
klo daily usage sih gak bakal beda jauh oil temp dan coolant.

itu karena dipush ala mbah vanosz aja, sampai butuh BBK :ngacir:
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welp barusan cek udah part 21 aja.
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kok bisa suhu oli sangat tinggi, padahal dinding blok mesin dialiri coolant
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saya cek suhu minyak di penggorengan itu harus diatas 170C....

berarti jangan heran minyak goreng bisa dicampur ke mesin, karena suhu ideal oli mesin maksimal sekitar 110C
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ilhami wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:27 kok bisa suhu oli sangat tinggi, padahal dinding blok mesin dialiri coolant
Emg gtu mbah
Ya makanya oli mesin dirancang titik nyala apinya bs sampai >200C

Klo gak pk coolant, ya spt bbrp motor pendingin udara - air cooled, tanpa coolant, blok mesin buat dialirin udara, olinya lbh kentel dgn titik nyala lbh tinggi. :upss:
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ilhami wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:31 saya cek suhu minyak di penggorengan itu harus diatas 170C....

berarti jangan heran minyak goreng bisa dicampur ke mesin, karena suhu ideal oli mesin maksimal sekitar 110C
Oksidasinya sgt tinggi dan sifatnya sticky klo dah suhu normal.
Kena suhu 20C udh mulai membeku dan keras.
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Udah part 21 aja nih.. Mantap
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Suryaputra wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:01
ilhami wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:27 kok bisa suhu oli sangat tinggi, padahal dinding blok mesin dialiri coolant
Emg gtu mbah
Ya makanya oli mesin dirancang titik nyala apinya bs sampai >200C

Klo gak pk coolant, ya spt bbrp motor pendingin udara - air cooled, tanpa coolant, blok mesin buat dialirin udara, olinya lbh kentel dgn titik nyala lbh tinggi. :upss:
biar gmanapun, tetep suhu olmes mustinya ga bole sbegitu tinggi, kcuali lg dipake rpm tinggi konstan, kaya misal lg lari di tol, sirkuit dsb

tp kl rpm konstan cruisin di 80kph, sejauh yg kita orang tau ga bakal tralu beda jauh ama coolant, dan suhu coolant itu ga bole lebi tinggi dari 120an drajat .. perbezaan suhu olmes dan coolant pun jg by default ga bole tralu beda jauh, kcuali dapet oli ampas, atau oli mikrolet, yah itu laen crita dah

pengecualian oli girbok manual dan atf, ini emg biasanya mo pemakaian normal pun suhu kerja nya bsa d atas suhu coolant
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:49
Suryaputra wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:01
ilhami wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:27 kok bisa suhu oli sangat tinggi, padahal dinding blok mesin dialiri coolant
Emg gtu mbah
Ya makanya oli mesin dirancang titik nyala apinya bs sampai >200C

Klo gak pk coolant, ya spt bbrp motor pendingin udara - air cooled, tanpa coolant, blok mesin buat dialirin udara, olinya lbh kentel dgn titik nyala lbh tinggi. :upss:
biar gmanapun, tetep suhu olmes mustinya ga bole sbegitu tinggi, kcuali lg dipake rpm tinggi konstan, kaya misal lg lari di tol, sirkuit dsb

tp kl rpm konstan cruisin di 80kph, sejauh yg kita orang tau ga bakal tralu beda jauh ama coolant, dan suhu coolant itu ga bole lebi tinggi dari 120an drajat .. perbezaan suhu olmes dan coolant pun jg by default ga bole tralu beda jauh, kcuali dapet oli ampas, atau oli mikrolet, yah itu laen crita dah

pengecualian oli girbok manual dan atf, ini emg biasanya mo pemakaian normal pun suhu kerja nya bsa d atas suhu coolant
iya bener mbah
lagipula oli mesin dirancang flashpoint setinggi itu, untuk antisipasi klo (kondisi tertentu) harus hi rpm :big_biglaugh:

Klo sy pribadi sih... selama mantau OBD di bbrp mobil merk nippon, gak pernah sih suhu coolant lbh tinggi dr 100 C,
always di bawah 100 C

top speed juga ngejar apaan sih?.. dapat piala atau duit juga nggak
cuma ngasih makan ego dan bigger risk aja :mky_03:
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DOHC wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:49
Suryaputra wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:01
ilhami wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:27 kok bisa suhu oli sangat tinggi, padahal dinding blok mesin dialiri coolant
Emg gtu mbah
Ya makanya oli mesin dirancang titik nyala apinya bs sampai >200C

Klo gak pk coolant, ya spt bbrp motor pendingin udara - air cooled, tanpa coolant, blok mesin buat dialirin udara, olinya lbh kentel dgn titik nyala lbh tinggi. :upss:
biar gmanapun, tetep suhu olmes mustinya ga bole sbegitu tinggi, kcuali lg dipake rpm tinggi konstan, kaya misal lg lari di tol, sirkuit dsb

tp kl rpm konstan cruisin di 80kph, sejauh yg kita orang tau ga bakal tralu beda jauh ama coolant, dan suhu coolant itu ga bole lebi tinggi dari 120an drajat .. perbezaan suhu olmes dan coolant pun jg by default ga bole tralu beda jauh, kcuali dapet oli ampas, atau oli mikrolet, yah itu laen crita dah

pengecualian oli girbok manual dan atf, ini emg biasanya mo pemakaian normal pun suhu kerja nya bsa d atas suhu coolant
Kalau segini di L10 normal ga mbah? jalan sekitar 2 jam, kondisi mendung, dalkot ga macet
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