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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 23:35
Suryaputra wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 23:12 KNKT / NTSB nya indonesia yg ngomong
Highest standard ini, krn aspek transportasi udara - laut dikuasai oleh mereka.

Semoga tetap independen :big_exellent:

hopefully yang baru ini lebih baik dari yang dulu. rangka sayap setengah insaf udah banyak korban katanya dah memenuhi standard :big_dunno:
Ntah lah ya klo si astral satu itu :upss:
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ilhami wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 14:34 Nuclear car waste nya dibuang ke laut pakai drum anti pecah ratusan ribu tahun.

hydrogen fueled car itu tidak pakai mesin ICE, tapi pakai sel bahan bakar yang hasilnya listrik.

nuclear Fusion itu hasilnya selain helium juga radiasi seperti sinar gamma, sinar X dan neutron (pernah dengar bom neutron?)
bulan masi kosong om............. :ngacir:

hydrogen itu sama aja sama EV malah hidrogen juga sbeenernya EV

makannya sampe sekarang belom ada kapal pesiar atau kargo pake nuklir karena fissionnya belom bebas radiasi dan emisi sejauh ini mereka lagi RND fusion reactor gagal mulu china juga getol yang matahari itu juga raktor fusi.........

hidrogen juga gak bakalan bisa berkembang karena ribet penyimpenannnya bikin mobil complicated juga............... :ngacir:
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Suryaputra wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 23:12 KNKT / NTSB nya indonesia yg ngomong
Highest standard ini, krn aspek transportasi udara - laut dikuasai oleh mereka.

Semoga tetap independen :big_exellent:

ud pernah saya bahas juga disini kena juga kan :mky_07:
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:39 soalr powered udah dipake kan di prius PHEV, tesla dulu pake cman gatau tiba2 ilang skrg
mana efektif solar tuh

besar di investnya aja

efficiency nya aja blon sampe 50% mbah
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b0ku wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 1:07
Suryaputra wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 23:12 KNKT / NTSB nya indonesia yg ngomong
Highest standard ini, krn aspek transportasi udara - laut dikuasai oleh mereka.

Semoga tetap independen :big_exellent:

ud pernah saya bahas juga disini kena juga kan :mky_07:
lama-lama ada larangan,
- EV gak boleh naik kapal bareng publik (cth: road trip nyebrang laut mau ke lampung, bali, dsb)
- Boleh dgn kapal khusus, bayarnya lbh mahal, krn usernya kan jg bukan kaum mendang mending

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Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:07
lama-lama ada larangan,
- EV gak boleh naik kapal bareng publik (cth: road trip nyebrang laut mau ke lampung, bali, dsb)
- Boleh dgn kapal khusus, bayarnya lbh mahal, krn usernya kan jg bukan kaum mendang mending

:upss:
di cina tahun baru china kemaren ya gitu akhirnya bottleneck pada kejebak di tempat liburan semua
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b0ku wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:31
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:07
lama-lama ada larangan,
- EV gak boleh naik kapal bareng publik (cth: road trip nyebrang laut mau ke lampung, bali, dsb)
- Boleh dgn kapal khusus, bayarnya lbh mahal, krn usernya kan jg bukan kaum mendang mending

:upss:
di cina tahun baru china kemaren ya gitu akhirnya bottleneck pada kejebak di tempat liburan semua
Ya krn scr statistik nya udh sampai.

Indonesia baru mulai, barang yg oversupply di sana, dilempar ke negara berbunga, dpt subsidi dan diskon

Msh honeymoon, kyk startup 10 thn lalu :big_peace:
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Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 1:04
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 23:35
Suryaputra wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 23:12 KNKT / NTSB nya indonesia yg ngomong
Highest standard ini, krn aspek transportasi udara - laut dikuasai oleh mereka.

Semoga tetap independen :big_exellent:

hopefully yang baru ini lebih baik dari yang dulu. rangka sayap setengah insaf udah banyak korban katanya dah memenuhi standard :big_dunno:
Ntah lah ya klo si astral satu itu :upss:
sakti mandraguna temennya saras emang wkwkwkw
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:22
b0ku wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:31
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:07
lama-lama ada larangan,
- EV gak boleh naik kapal bareng publik (cth: road trip nyebrang laut mau ke lampung, bali, dsb)
- Boleh dgn kapal khusus, bayarnya lbh mahal, krn usernya kan jg bukan kaum mendang mending

:upss:
di cina tahun baru china kemaren ya gitu akhirnya bottleneck pada kejebak di tempat liburan semua
Ya krn scr statistik nya udh sampai.

Indonesia baru mulai, barang yg oversupply di sana, dilempar ke negara berbunga, dpt subsidi dan diskon

Msh honeymoon, kyk startup 10 thn lalu :big_peace:
EV udah mulai jenuh diluar, EUK dah pada pajekin taun depan plus amrik kaianya dibawah trump juga ngurangin insentif EV. yah pengen tau aja sih reaksinya nanti ganti batere ratusan :mky_03:
darrelund wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 1:49
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:39 soalr powered udah dipake kan di prius PHEV, tesla dulu pake cman gatau tiba2 ilang skrg
mana efektif solar tuh

besar di investnya aja

efficiency nya aja blon sampe 50% mbah
belum lagi soal perovskite cell yang notabene ga ramah lingkungan. sebenernya efektif..........kalo solar cellnya gede n luas :big_grin:
kalo kecil mah emang belum nyampe effisiensi makanya tesla, nio, toyota, dsb pada defuncts tuh solarcell lineproductnya
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:07
b0ku wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 1:07
Suryaputra wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 23:12 KNKT / NTSB nya indonesia yg ngomong
Highest standard ini, krn aspek transportasi udara - laut dikuasai oleh mereka.

Semoga tetap independen :big_exellent:

ud pernah saya bahas juga disini kena juga kan :mky_07:
lama-lama ada larangan,
- EV gak boleh naik kapal bareng publik (cth: road trip nyebrang laut mau ke lampung, bali, dsb)
- Boleh dgn kapal khusus, bayarnya lbh mahal, krn usernya kan jg bukan kaum mendang mending

:upss:
korsel udah mulai nerapin
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/08/korea ... g-garages/
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:57
korsel udah mulai nerapin
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/08/korea ... g-garages/
:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
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Charging 80 ke 100 persen itu butuh waktu lama ya.
Nantinya parkiran mall yang di luar untuk lokasi charging EV semua.
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:57
belum lagi soal perovskite cell yang notabene ga ramah lingkungan. sebenernya efektif..........kalo solar cellnya gede n luas :big_grin:
kalo kecil mah emang belum nyampe effisiensi makanya tesla, nio, toyota, dsb pada defuncts tuh solarcell lineproductnya
nah itu mbah, ukurannya harus besar biar efektif

ini di kantor pasang solar panel, 5.5 kwp, di app yg masuk max 3.5-3.8 kwh

vendornya pln iconplus, 100jt an klo ga salah kemarin

paling ya breakthrough solar kyk di video ini, bener pake perovskite, dia multi layer, per layer di tune utk specific wavelength cahaya

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ilhami wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 13:08 Charging 80 ke 100 persen itu butuh waktu lama ya.
Nantinya parkiran mall yang di luar untuk lokasi charging EV semua.
krn utk jaga life span batterynya mbah

klo di gaspol terus bisa abis lama", makanya hp laptop jaman skrg ada fitur jaga max charge di 80% utk batere awet

kecuali pke taycan bisa gaspol trus chargenya, bisa 300-331kW

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b0ku wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:46 perusahaan game
nih mbah

game seru, klo lagi senggang

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darrelund wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 14:56
ilhami wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 13:08 Charging 80 ke 100 persen itu butuh waktu lama ya.
Nantinya parkiran mall yang di luar untuk lokasi charging EV semua.
krn utk jaga life span batterynya mbah

klo di gaspol terus bisa abis lama", makanya hp laptop jaman skrg ada fitur jaga max charge di 80% utk batere awet

kecuali pke taycan bisa gaspol trus chargenya, bisa 300-331kW

Keseringan dihajar 300kw.. Bakal lbh cepet jebol itu sih batrenya.
Peak temp nya di 55C.

Tp klo user porsche gak masalah sih, rusak tinggal beli baru batre nya, or even the whole car itself :big_exellent:
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darrelund wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 14:53
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:57
belum lagi soal perovskite cell yang notabene ga ramah lingkungan. sebenernya efektif..........kalo solar cellnya gede n luas :big_grin:
kalo kecil mah emang belum nyampe effisiensi makanya tesla, nio, toyota, dsb pada defuncts tuh solarcell lineproductnya
nah itu mbah, ukurannya harus besar biar efektif

ini di kantor pasang solar panel, 5.5 kwp, di app yg masuk max 3.5-3.8 kwh

vendornya pln iconplus, 100jt an klo ga salah kemarin

paling ya breakthrough solar kyk di video ini, bener pake perovskite, dia multi layer, per layer di tune utk specific wavelength cahaya

makanya itu jeleknya solar panel disana musti luas dulu karena energy densitynya kecil cucoknya kalo buat penerangan jalan ala2 ditol yang gak gitu gede..

yes yang multi layer cman harganya :big_dunno:
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 21:58
darrelund wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 14:56
ilhami wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 13:08 Charging 80 ke 100 persen itu butuh waktu lama ya.
Nantinya parkiran mall yang di luar untuk lokasi charging EV semua.
krn utk jaga life span batterynya mbah

klo di gaspol terus bisa abis lama", makanya hp laptop jaman skrg ada fitur jaga max charge di 80% utk batere awet

kecuali pke taycan bisa gaspol trus chargenya, bisa 300-331kW

Keseringan dihajar 300kw.. Bakal lbh cepet jebol itu sih batrenya.
Peak temp nya di 55C.

Tp klo user porsche gak masalah sih, rusak tinggal beli baru batre nya, or even the whole car itself :big_exellent:
mah user porsche batere rusak ganti mobil baru mbah :mky_02:
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Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 21:58
darrelund wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 14:56
ilhami wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 13:08 Charging 80 ke 100 persen itu butuh waktu lama ya.
Nantinya parkiran mall yang di luar untuk lokasi charging EV semua.
krn utk jaga life span batterynya mbah

klo di gaspol terus bisa abis lama", makanya hp laptop jaman skrg ada fitur jaga max charge di 80% utk batere awet

kecuali pke taycan bisa gaspol trus chargenya, bisa 300-331kW

Keseringan dihajar 300kw.. Bakal lbh cepet jebol itu sih batrenya.
Peak temp nya di 55C.

Tp klo user porsche gak masalah sih, rusak tinggal beli baru batre nya, or even the whole car itself :big_exellent:
mending jebol tau2x dhuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar............................ :glodak:

porsche lagi punya riwayat ancurin 2 kapal kargo :mky_07:
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b0ku wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:18
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 21:58
darrelund wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 14:56

krn utk jaga life span batterynya mbah

klo di gaspol terus bisa abis lama", makanya hp laptop jaman skrg ada fitur jaga max charge di 80% utk batere awet

kecuali pke taycan bisa gaspol trus chargenya, bisa 300-331kW

Keseringan dihajar 300kw.. Bakal lbh cepet jebol itu sih batrenya.
Peak temp nya di 55C.

Tp klo user porsche gak masalah sih, rusak tinggal beli baru batre nya, or even the whole car itself :big_exellent:
mending jebol tau2x dhuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar............................ :glodak:

porsche lagi punya riwayat ancurin 2 kapal kargo :mky_07:
bukan salah porschenya

salah batrenya,
kontainer batre bocor dikittt, kena humid air laut, kelarrr itu lithium-ion self ignite (duaaaaarrrrr!)
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Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 21:58 Keseringan dihajar 300kw.. Bakal lbh cepet jebol itu sih batrenya.
Peak temp nya di 55C.

Tp klo user porsche gak masalah sih, rusak tinggal beli baru batre nya, or even the whole car itself :big_exellent:
harga segini, management system & cell nya ud bukan kelas kentang lagi mbah

gak gampang bisa sustain 0-60% di gaspol 300kW

makanya percuma klo ada EV bisa gembar gembor bisa super duper fast charging klo aktual nya 5-10 menit ud throttling :big_biglaugh:

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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 23:11 makanya itu jeleknya solar panel disana musti luas dulu karena energy densitynya kecil cucoknya kalo buat penerangan jalan ala2 ditol yang gak gitu gede..

yes yang multi layer cman harganya :big_dunno:
makanya mobil rata" discontinue pke solar cell ya gitu mbah, itu di prius aja paling berapa generate listriknya :big_biglaugh:
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darrelund wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:13
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 21:58 Keseringan dihajar 300kw.. Bakal lbh cepet jebol itu sih batrenya.
Peak temp nya di 55C.

Tp klo user porsche gak masalah sih, rusak tinggal beli baru batre nya, or even the whole car itself :big_exellent:
harga segini, management system & cell nya ud bukan kelas kentang lagi mbah

gak gampang bisa sustain 0-60% di gaspol 300kW

makanya percuma klo ada EV bisa gembar gembor bisa super duper fast charging klo aktual nya 5-10 menit ud throttling :big_biglaugh:

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ya tetap aja ngisinya jadi hampir sejam klo mau sampai hampir full
tapi klo 80% buat jaga umur batre, dan wara wiri dalam kota cukup banget sih
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Suryaputra wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:34
darrelund wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:13
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 21:58 Keseringan dihajar 300kw.. Bakal lbh cepet jebol itu sih batrenya.
Peak temp nya di 55C.

Tp klo user porsche gak masalah sih, rusak tinggal beli baru batre nya, or even the whole car itself :big_exellent:
harga segini, management system & cell nya ud bukan kelas kentang lagi mbah

gak gampang bisa sustain 0-60% di gaspol 300kW

makanya percuma klo ada EV bisa gembar gembor bisa super duper fast charging klo aktual nya 5-10 menit ud throttling :big_biglaugh:

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ya tetap aja ngisinya jadi hampir sejam klo mau sampai hampir full
tapi klo 80% buat jaga umur batre, dan wara wiri dalam kota cukup banget sih
lumayan ok sih dari grafis yah emang tipikal gitulah. dunia tidak seindah lab.
800v hyundai-kia ajib sih, kalo menurut orang korea juga paleng robust dengan harga yang masuk akal
soal throttling tergantung juga charging station apakah di lowstate ato highstate. kalo di lowstate yah emang nasib berarrti wkwkwkwk
anyway gwa kira bakal laris manis ternyata ioniq5n ini malah sales di euro gak gitu bagus, barusan denger poodcastnya behindtheglass cman laku ratusan unit doang.
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Suryaputra wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:34 ya tetap aja ngisinya jadi hampir sejam klo mau sampai hampir full
tapi klo 80% buat jaga umur batre, dan wara wiri dalam kota cukup banget sih
makanya di video taycan jg si orangna bilang paling enak tuh ngecas EV sampe % dia masih gaspol masuknya

ini harus tanya ke superuser mbah @bibieight
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 13:25 lumayan ok sih dari grafis yah emang tipikal gitulah. dunia tidak seindah lab.
800v hyundai-kia ajib sih, kalo menurut orang korea juga paleng robust dengan harga yang masuk akal
soal throttling tergantung juga charging station apakah di lowstate ato highstate. kalo di lowstate yah emang nasib berarrti wkwkwkwk
anyway gwa kira bakal laris manis ternyata ioniq5n ini malah sales di euro gak gitu bagus, barusan denger poodcastnya behindtheglass cman laku ratusan unit doang.
itu harusnya grafik pengetesan IRL siy mbah

di eropa gak laku soalnya dari merk sono jg mobil performance nya jg banyak mbah, mrk masih ada privilege itu :big_biglaugh:

lah disini

GTI aja 1.2

asem :big_biglaugh:
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kalau pakai portable charger doang untuk harian cukup ga?
Karena dengan 2200 watt bisa 48 jam untuk charge full.
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:big_dunno: mobil pelangi cara jualannya juga pelangi deh........ :glodak: