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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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DOHC wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 16:07
Poporing wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 14:00 mau nanya mbah..
jadi ceritanya akhirnya beli ini.. setelah nyari2 STW yg satu range harga dgn ini tp ga nemu.. hahahaha
Screenshot 2021-10-10.jpg
trus nyari2 TW dgn range max 25nm (buat ngencengin daerah steering column).. tp ga nemu yg harganya bersahabat (dgn kualitas yg menjanjikan)...
kira2 TW momotaro (brand mereka sendiri) dibanding SATA, bagusan mana ya?

atau kira2 daerah steering column ga perlu ditorsi? cukup pake feeling? :D
saya baca2 fsm-nya, butuh 8nm dan 16nm... kira2 segimana tuh feelingnya? *dgn asumsi belum makan nasi padang pake 2 lauk*

cacian dan saran sangat diharapkan.. :big_peace:

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cacian ?? coba siapa yg brani caci sini... so ta ajak batumbuk kita jo
engga mbah ..... ampyunnnn mbah ..... ga berani :big_smile] :emo-flowerforyou:
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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DOHC wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 16:38
Omnibus wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:49
DOHC wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:26
kl kita orang sehh, mala ga anjurin beli U joint

ga guna soalnya

selama karir kita orang malingin onderdil mobil sehh, ntuh U -joint ga perna kepake

malah lebi kepake punya trelek 1/2 ama 3/8 in berbagai ukuran
ngencengin klem air hose yg ke intek dr filter udara biasa pake obeng mbah?
pake konci soket nomer 10 mili mbah
nah wajib pake u-joint mbah kl ga mau trelek ngikut muter2 pas klem dipasin posisinya.
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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DOHC wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 16:44
Omnibus wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 13:32
yanuarra wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:54

Sorry mbah jump in...Ane pake socket dan itu ada torsi pengencangannya loh.. di ane 4 Nm

..... :ngacir:
mbah delko pake obeng :mky_03:
enak aja :big_smoking: :big_smoking:

gini2 kita orang masi ad harga diri taukk, berkelas sikit donk kl mo colong.. ehh copotin selang intek... pake konci sok ama ratchet KTC yg dibeli pas diskon jadi sipeceng itu donk :big_smoking: :big_smoking:




#sebenernya lebi karena kita orang ga punya obeng set yg proper aj sehh :big_childish: :big_childish: :big_childish:
jangan pake obeng mbah, udah bener pake socket 10mm soalnya ada torque spec nya kl toyota 6.5Nm

makanya banyak 2gd yg lepas air hose nya pas turbo ngeboost krn ga di torque cuma dikencengin pake obeng sekuatnya (kaya gitu msh jauh pake banget dr torque spec)
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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Profith83 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 17:11
Poporing wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 16:02
iya mbah... ini yg jd concern saya..
klo murah, kita ga bisa expect much atas akurasinya...
tp klo beli mahal, sayang duid.. hahaha

info tambahan: setelah saya baca2 service manual-nya lg, ada 3 pasang baut yg butuh torsi 16nm - 19nm - 22nm
jadi kayaknya opsi pake feeling ditiadakan :big_biglaugh:
2 set buat ngencengin steering column ke dudukannya... 1 set buat eps motor ke steering column...

klo beli TW emang butuh pertimbangan yg sangat matang.....hahaaha
Saya kapan hari lama sekali pertimbangan buat beli TW.
Beruntung dibantu para senior dan maha guru disini :thanks:
itu namanya KADERISASI

jd kl ada yg baru mau beli tw, mbah skrg yg maju jelas2in nya. :big_weee:

enak aja cuma mau duduk berpangku tangan :wkkk:
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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DOHC wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:33
marmut wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 18:01
DOHC wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 17:27

Sperempat stw ??

Lohh mbah, memangnya si " biru" itu hasil rujukan nya mbah masas ?

Tempat sempit, bener ugaa.. siapa tau suatu ari musti buka timing cover si hrv atau si 1KR-GTE quad turbo, naga2nya kayanya wajip pake u joint tuh... untung ud punya :upss:


bukan, dia mana level gituan.
kalo blue label, iya.
harga sebotol blue label bisa buat mabok sekampung selama seminggu....

beli mbah socket gituan, jangan sampe keduluan saya...

:mky_01:

entar saya pm link-nya kalo mau. kalo pajang dimari keenakan SR.

:big_weee:
Ohh kirain,

Berarti masi bener doi, belom kobam gara2 ngabisin blue label semaleman

Soalnya dl waktu saya blg mo beli si "biru" kan doi ktawain (ehh dia kan yah :big_think: )

Soket oglek ya , belom d mbah, kamsia

Soalnya slama ini masi kejangkau trelek2 ama soket2 seh

Trus kl U joint doank tanpa soket nya, kta orang ud ad mbah

Btw bener tu, jgn kasi link sembarangan, keenakan si toko d probono ama SR :big_weee: .. wong post poto aj belom sejem ud 40- 50 views
kl abis blue label trelek pun goyang tingkat tinggi mbah ........ :mky_03:

remake video, now with u-joint


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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:45
DOHC wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 16:44
Omnibus wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 13:32

mbah delko pake obeng :mky_03:
enak aja :big_smoking: :big_smoking:

gini2 kita orang masi ad harga diri taukk, berkelas sikit donk kl mo colong.. ehh copotin selang intek... pake konci sok ama ratchet KTC yg dibeli pas diskon jadi sipeceng itu donk :big_smoking: :big_smoking:




#sebenernya lebi karena kita orang ga punya obeng set yg proper aj sehh :big_childish: :big_childish: :big_childish:
jangan pake obeng mbah, udah bener pake socket 10mm soalnya ada torque spec nya kl toyota 6.5Nm

makanya banyak 2gd yg lepas air hose nya pas turbo ngeboost krn ga di torque cuma dikencengin pake obeng sekuatnya (kaya gitu msh jauh pake banget dr torque spec)
Untunglah kl gt slama ini ilmunya bener berarti

Lagian kl kita orang perhatiin, drat obeng nya gampang ancur mbah , skali dua kali pake obeng perhatiin deh, pasti rompal itu drat bautnya.. makanya mau ga mau musti pake konci sok
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:45
DOHC wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 16:44
Omnibus wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 13:32

mbah delko pake obeng :mky_03:
enak aja :big_smoking: :big_smoking:

gini2 kita orang masi ad harga diri taukk, berkelas sikit donk kl mo colong.. ehh copotin selang intek... pake konci sok ama ratchet KTC yg dibeli pas diskon jadi sipeceng itu donk :big_smoking: :big_smoking:




#sebenernya lebi karena kita orang ga punya obeng set yg proper aj sehh :big_childish: :big_childish: :big_childish:
jangan pake obeng mbah, udah bener pake socket 10mm soalnya ada torque spec nya kl toyota 6.5Nm

makanya banyak 2gd yg lepas air hose nya pas turbo ngeboost krn ga di torque cuma dikencengin pake obeng sekuatnya (kaya gitu msh jauh pake banget dr torque spec)
ini yang 2 selang/hose gede diameter sekitar 7 cm kiri dan kanan itu kan mbah? selang yang dari Turbo ke arah IC dan dari IC ke arah TB.
Betul ya?
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:51
Profith83 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 17:11
Poporing wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 16:02
iya mbah... ini yg jd concern saya..
klo murah, kita ga bisa expect much atas akurasinya...
tp klo beli mahal, sayang duid.. hahaha

info tambahan: setelah saya baca2 service manual-nya lg, ada 3 pasang baut yg butuh torsi 16nm - 19nm - 22nm
jadi kayaknya opsi pake feeling ditiadakan :big_biglaugh:
2 set buat ngencengin steering column ke dudukannya... 1 set buat eps motor ke steering column...

klo beli TW emang butuh pertimbangan yg sangat matang.....hahaaha
Saya kapan hari lama sekali pertimbangan buat beli TW.
Beruntung dibantu para senior dan maha guru disini :thanks:
itu namanya KADERISASI

jd kl ada yg baru mau beli tw, mbah skrg yg maju jelas2in nya. :big_weee:

enak aja cuma mau duduk berpangku tangan :wkkk:
Siap, saya jawab semua yang saya tahu, pakai ilmu yang masih dangkal ini :big_smile] :big_biglaugh:
Tak jawabin semua kalau tanya TW.
Kalau pengalaman TW JTC nanti saya arahkan ke mbah Delco
Kalau Hazet/STW dan perbandingannya, saya arahkan ke mbah Yanuar
Soalnya pertanyaan perbandingan saya tidak bisa jawab karena tidak punya barangnya.
Tapi fungsi dan sebaiknya pakai panjang yang mana, terutama torsi dibawah 50, diatas 50 dst dstnya, akan saya bantu jawab :big_biglaugh:
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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DOHC wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:33
Untunglah kl gt slama ini ilmunya bener berarti

Lagian kl kita orang perhatiin, drat obeng nya gampang ancur mbah , skali dua kali pake obeng perhatiin deh, pasti rompal itu drat bautnya.. makanya mau ga mau musti pake konci sok
iya udah gitu ga enak diliatnya mbah rompal2 gitu.

*ocd on :upss:
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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Profith83 wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:12
Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:45
DOHC wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 16:44

enak aja :big_smoking: :big_smoking:

gini2 kita orang masi ad harga diri taukk, berkelas sikit donk kl mo colong.. ehh copotin selang intek... pake konci sok ama ratchet KTC yg dibeli pas diskon jadi sipeceng itu donk :big_smoking: :big_smoking:




#sebenernya lebi karena kita orang ga punya obeng set yg proper aj sehh :big_childish: :big_childish: :big_childish:
jangan pake obeng mbah, udah bener pake socket 10mm soalnya ada torque spec nya kl toyota 6.5Nm

makanya banyak 2gd yg lepas air hose nya pas turbo ngeboost krn ga di torque cuma dikencengin pake obeng sekuatnya (kaya gitu msh jauh pake banget dr torque spec)
ini yang 2 selang/hose gede diameter sekitar 7 cm kiri dan kanan itu kan mbah? selang yang dari Turbo ke arah IC dan dari IC ke arah TB.
Betul ya?
betul mbah :big_exellent:
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berhubung bulan depan kl ga ada aral melintang, si Hank (nickname vrz dikasih anak2 ane) mau dipake lagi ke Bali, maka dr skrg udah dikit2 di serpis (pake P)


regrease prop shaft cross joints. udah ga pake lagi amsowell, skrg pake ...... omg77. wipro in action :mky_03:


excuse the nasty picture bcoz this is a nasty job, for sure.

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next, brake fluid pake diganti ga ya? :big_childish:
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Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:51 berhubung bulan depan kl ga ada aral melintang, si Hank (nickname vrz dikasih anak2 ane) mau dipake lagi ke Bali, maka dr skrg udah dikit2 di serpis (pake P)


regrease prop shaft cross joints. udah ga pake lagi amsowell, skrg pake ...... omg77. wipro in action :mky_03:


excuse the nasty picture bcoz this is a nasty job, for sure.


IMG_20211011_104312~2.jpg


next, brake fluid pake diganti ga ya? :big_childish:
Keyen om (pake y)
Kalau mobil isinya cairan bagus, mau disiksa misal kena macet dimana gitu 0.5 jam kita gak kuatir.
Atau mau overtake mobil lain yang lemot kita pede.
Atau overtake mobil truk jejer 5, jadi cepat naik RPM nya. Pernah pakai ANKI pas ke bali.
Selama cairan bagus semua ... mantap tuh mesin 2GD, RPM bawah dan medium ke 2 nya lumayan nampol.
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abis ngencengin prop shaft flange nuts. flange belakang ada 4 mur, flange tengah ada 4 mur, flange depan ga ada.
flange tengah ada 2 mur yg muter dikit (sblmnya sedikit undertorque). spec 88.5Nm utk vrz.



kepala tw nya mentok :big_cry: .

IMG_20211011_110452~2.jpg

untuuunngg ada wobble extension. :big_grin:


IMG_20211011_110656~2.jpg
IMG_20211011_112447~2.jpg
IMG_20211011_112519~2.jpg

bonus footage: teriakan puas ala mbah blower sambil posisi mercenary di kolong mobil :upss: :upss: :upss:


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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:00 abis ngencengin prop shaft flange nuts. flange belakang ada 4 mur, flange tengah ada 4 mur, flange depan ga ada.
flange tengah ada 2 mur yg muter dikit (sblmnya sedikit undertorque). spec 88.5Nm utk vrz.



kepala tw nya mentok :big_cry: .


IMG_20211011_110452~2.jpg


untuuunngg ada wobble extension. :big_grin:



IMG_20211011_110656~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112447~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112519~2.jpg


bonus footage: teriakan puas ala mbah blower sambil posisi mercenary di kolong mobil :upss: :upss: :upss:



disitulah kegunaan ring insert head.... :mky_03:









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marmut wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:58
Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:00 abis ngencengin prop shaft flange nuts. flange belakang ada 4 mur, flange tengah ada 4 mur, flange depan ga ada.
flange tengah ada 2 mur yg muter dikit (sblmnya sedikit undertorque). spec 88.5Nm utk vrz.



kepala tw nya mentok :big_cry: .


IMG_20211011_110452~2.jpg


untuuunngg ada wobble extension. :big_grin:



IMG_20211011_110656~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112447~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112519~2.jpg


bonus footage: teriakan puas ala mbah blower sambil posisi mercenary di kolong mobil :upss: :upss: :upss:



disitulah kegunaan ring insert head.... :mky_03:





:ngacir:
Kalau pakai U joint mbah?
Kayanya untuk kekuatan sampai 130 Nm U joint Dr 1/2 gak kuat yah?
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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marmut wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:58
Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:00 abis ngencengin prop shaft flange nuts. flange belakang ada 4 mur, flange tengah ada 4 mur, flange depan ga ada.
flange tengah ada 2 mur yg muter dikit (sblmnya sedikit undertorque). spec 88.5Nm utk vrz.



kepala tw nya mentok :big_cry: .


IMG_20211011_110452~2.jpg


untuuunngg ada wobble extension. :big_grin:



IMG_20211011_110656~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112447~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112519~2.jpg


bonus footage: teriakan puas ala mbah blower sambil posisi mercenary di kolong mobil :upss: :upss: :upss:



disitulah kegunaan ring insert head.... :mky_03:









:ngacir:
Mbah kalo set2an insert yg ring itu dijual nggk si? Pernah cari ga mbah?
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:00 abis ngencengin prop shaft flange nuts. flange belakang ada 4 mur, flange tengah ada 4 mur, flange depan ga ada.
flange tengah ada 2 mur yg muter dikit (sblmnya sedikit undertorque). spec 88.5Nm utk vrz.



kepala tw nya mentok :big_cry: .


IMG_20211011_110452~2.jpg


untuuunngg ada wobble extension. :big_grin:



IMG_20211011_110656~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112447~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112519~2.jpg


bonus footage: teriakan puas ala mbah blower sambil posisi mercenary di kolong mobil :upss: :upss: :upss:


Mbah

Kl pake soket oglek gt

Bukannya malah jd ga akurat torsi nya mbah ??
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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marmut wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:58
Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:00 abis ngencengin prop shaft flange nuts. flange belakang ada 4 mur, flange tengah ada 4 mur, flange depan ga ada.
flange tengah ada 2 mur yg muter dikit (sblmnya sedikit undertorque). spec 88.5Nm utk vrz.



kepala tw nya mentok :big_cry: .


IMG_20211011_110452~2.jpg


untuuunngg ada wobble extension. :big_grin:



IMG_20211011_110656~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112447~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112519~2.jpg


bonus footage: teriakan puas ala mbah blower sambil posisi mercenary di kolong mobil :upss: :upss: :upss:



disitulah kegunaan ring insert head.... :mky_03:









:ngacir:
banyak jalan menuju roma ...... :mky_03:
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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Profith83 wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:01
marmut wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:58
Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:00 abis ngencengin prop shaft flange nuts. flange belakang ada 4 mur, flange tengah ada 4 mur, flange depan ga ada.
flange tengah ada 2 mur yg muter dikit (sblmnya sedikit undertorque). spec 88.5Nm utk vrz.



kepala tw nya mentok :big_cry: .


IMG_20211011_110452~2.jpg


untuuunngg ada wobble extension. :big_grin:



IMG_20211011_110656~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112447~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112519~2.jpg


bonus footage: teriakan puas ala mbah blower sambil posisi mercenary di kolong mobil :upss: :upss: :upss:



disitulah kegunaan ring insert head.... :mky_03:





:ngacir:
Kalau pakai U joint mbah?
Kayanya untuk kekuatan sampai 130 Nm U joint Dr 1/2 gak kuat yah?
bisa juga tp ga stabil goyang2. sometimes wobble lbh baik.
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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DOHC wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:17
Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:00 abis ngencengin prop shaft flange nuts. flange belakang ada 4 mur, flange tengah ada 4 mur, flange depan ga ada.
flange tengah ada 2 mur yg muter dikit (sblmnya sedikit undertorque). spec 88.5Nm utk vrz.



kepala tw nya mentok :big_cry: .


IMG_20211011_110452~2.jpg


untuuunngg ada wobble extension. :big_grin:



IMG_20211011_110656~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112447~2.jpg


IMG_20211011_112519~2.jpg


bonus footage: teriakan puas ala mbah blower sambil posisi mercenary di kolong mobil :upss: :upss: :upss:


Mbah

Kl pake soket oglek gt

Bukannya malah jd ga akurat torsi nya mbah ??
hmmm sesungguhnya ik lama mikirin itu. tp keinget suatu matkul yg ane lulusnya sampe hrs les private sm kawan wkwkwkwk jd ane inget terus sampe skrg. yaitu, kl momen berhubungan sama panjang lengan tp once sdh berubah jd torque maka akan sama terus sepanjang axis meskipun belok. mungkin ada loss tp sdh lah terkompensasi jg sama insert yg QR kan lbh panjang drpd yg non-QR.

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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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keterusan kan regrease steering rack. penasaran krn terakhir di regrease bulan Aug pemakaian 2.500km yg lalu.


kondisi awal
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after thorough cleaning

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after new grease

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daaannnn yg namanya DIY itu pasti lanjut terus. akhirnya cleaning front brake. cabut brake pads, cleaning semua, n regrease2. mana pake acara kawat boot silinder melejit lagi ...... asemmm. cape brow, skrg ngetik mobil msh nggantung ban belom kepasang. ada suka dan ada duka jd DIYer. no pain no gain :big_grin:
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:54
DOHC wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:17
Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:00 abis ngencengin prop shaft flange nuts. flange belakang ada 4 mur, flange tengah ada 4 mur, flange depan ga ada.
flange tengah ada 2 mur yg muter dikit (sblmnya sedikit undertorque). spec 88.5Nm utk vrz.



kepala tw nya mentok :big_cry: .


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untuuunngg ada wobble extension. :big_grin:



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bonus footage: teriakan puas ala mbah blower sambil posisi mercenary di kolong mobil :upss: :upss: :upss:


Mbah

Kl pake soket oglek gt

Bukannya malah jd ga akurat torsi nya mbah ??
hmmm sesungguhnya ik lama mikirin itu. tp keinget suatu matkul yg ane lulusnya sampe hrs les private sm kawan wkwkwkwk jd ane inget terus sampe skrg. yaitu, kl momen berhubungan sama panjang lengan tp once sdh berubah jd torque maka akan sama terus sepanjang axis meskipun belok. mungkin ada loss tp sdh lah terkompensasi jg sama insert yg QR kan lbh panjang drpd yg non-QR.

:upss:
senangnya dapet konfirmasi gt

kl gt mulai besok ngetork pake U joint jg ahh sambung ama konci sok :mky_03: :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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marmut wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:58
disitulah kegunaan ring insert head.... :mky_03:









:ngacir:
asemm jadi kepikiran

sini nomer 12, 14, 17 yg 9x12 punya ga? ta bayarin mbah :big_grin:
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Re: Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 08]

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Omnibus wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 13:15

asemm jadi kepikiran

sini nomer 12, 14, 17 yg 9x12 punya ga? ta bayarin mbah :big_grin:



kena dia.... akakakakakakaka.... (gaya ketawa suhu kamar sebelah)

ring baru punya 2 mbah, 17 sama 18 tapi yang 14x18mm.

9x12mm adanya ini dowang :


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masa suhu mahaguru bayar.... sok atuh dipilih mau yang mana? gratis mbah, kan saya udah dapet banyak ilmu...
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