'Panasin Mobil' <= bener ga sih??

[kimi]

Bro sebenerny manasin mobil tuh wajib ga? Ada yang bilang itu salah kaprah (secara teori), jadi buang2 bensin doank..
tapi buat kebanyakan orang ni udah jadi ritual wajib > biar mesin awet (mitoskah??)..
Menurut bro gimana??

[Khöedhöe]

1. Klo jarang dipake, minimal 1 minggu sekali dipanasin utk. ngisi aki biar gak tekor, terutama klo parkir lama sambil nyalain alarm.

2. Klo mau dipake ya dipanasin dulu lah (biar oli kelayaban dulu di mesin), klo lagi dingin trus dinyalalin trus dipake, lama2 jebol tuh mesin...

[Risol1]

kalo mobil jaman sekarang mah cukup semenit/2 mnt udah bisa langsung dijalanin bro...asal jangan kasar2 aja sebelom mesin mencapai suhu kerjanya.
jaman sekarang semuanya musti serba cepet.....panasin mobil semenit aja telat, gimana 15 menit?

[mansetha]

Panasin mobil tetep jadi menu utama, walau kadang tidak wajib juga karena keburu-buru, tapi setidaknya pas pertama hidupin mesin biarkan lansam beberapa menit, itu memberi kesempatan kepada oli untuk naik dan merata di komponen mesinnya. saya kita secanggih apapun mesinnya tetep aja ada warm up dulu.... walau tanpa itu mesin bisa jalan juga. Tapi itu tidak bijak namanya, kan kasihan ama mesinnya, langsung dipaksa. Pemanasan juga nggak harus lama-lama kok, sesuaikan dengan kondisi mesinya..sip lah

[kimi]

tapi diem sm jalan normal kondisi mesin kan sama2 idup.. bisa dibilang ntar jg panas sendiri..

[relisar]

Manasin boil pagi hari sudah menjadi kebiasaan para supir di indo bro, tp kalo sy bilang ngga perlu apalagi kalo boil jalan tiap hari. Manasin mesin paling maksimum 2 mnt cukup supaya oli2x dah pada naek dan rata baru jalan. Kalo dibiarin idle lama nanti malah boros di bensin. Enaknya habis start langsung jalan pelan2x aja

[satyr]

di user manual toyota baru sih panasin mobil cukup 10 detik..

panasin sekali2 perlu buat yg jarang dipake biar accu ga tekor n knalpot gak karat karena embun.. katanya sih gitu

[maxx]

Kebiasaan buruk & Salah mitos u/ mobil2 jaman sekarang:
1. Panasin mobil lebih dari 1menit dipagi hari sebelum digunakan.
2. Geber2 mesin sebelum matikan mesin.

Bener Bos Khöedhöe: kalo ga dipake dalam waktu yg lama.. setidaknya 1minggu 1x dipanasin dan ajak muter keliling komplek .. jangan dipanasin dalam keadaan diam u/ waktu yg lama, bukan apa2 .. krn gas buangnya lebih berbahaya saat kondisi mesin dingin.

[uch]

Gw masih manasin sekitar 5 menitan lebih mobil di pagi hari. Terus terang, di manual itu nggak ada dan alasannya jg nggak ada yg pasti (tertulis).

Cuman yg gw ingat, aus logam dalam mesin itu penyebab paling dominan berasal dari friction besi2 menit2 pertama cold started (sama seperti kata iklan salah satu oli.. ).

Dan gw liat indikator tekanan olie di boil gw, baru 5-10 menit setelah start baru "normal". 5-10 menit pertama, pompa olie masih bekerja fully maks dan independen (tidak tergantung RPM), setelah ketinggian olie di bak penyimpanan nya turun sampe titik tertentu (artinya sebagian besar olie sudah naik), baru pompa olie nya 100% bekerja sesuai RPM. Nah, titik itu yg gw tunggu. Intinya sih, gw nggak pengen ngasih beban ama mesin, sampe pelumasannya optimal. Kecuali kepepet.. he..he..

Cuman gw nggak pernah neken2 pedal gas saat manasin. 900 rpm always..

[bako]

yup, gag harus lama2.. semenit jg udah cukup n lgsg bisa jalan.. tp mesin jgn lgsg digeber.. jalankan mobil secara halus sampai indikator panas mesin normal... baru kl mo geber2 an silakan... ^^

[Khöedhöe]

klo baca nama 'bako', gw jadi inget temen sma gw di boedoet dulu...

[boilers]

Yup, saya kalau baca di manual juga maksimal 1 menit, lebih dr itu hanya buang energi saja. Yang bener sih kalau masih belom panas nyetirnya pelan2 dulu aja, jgn digeber2 dulu

[arinme]

kalo ane sih, tunggu ampe rpm turun ke idle normal,
biar begitu jalan bisa langsung bejek

[StRaDe_Jazz]

perasaan dulu pernah diomongin deh tapi gak papa
panasin mesin uda jadi ritual buat sebagian orang indonesia, bener. gw aja masih panasin mesin tiap pagi barang 5-10 menit, coz ntuh mobil tiap pagi uda gw "hajar", so musti warming up dulu
tp tadi baru aja gw iseng2 browsing n ketemu site ini nih:
http://ask.metafilter.com/30641/Should- ... re-I-drive

katanya:

Here's what the Canadian environment ministry has to say:

•An idling engine releases twice as many exhaust fumes than a vehicle in motion.
•If every driver in Canada avoided idling for 5 minutes a day, we could prevent 1.6 million tonnes of carbon dioxide from being emitted.
•No more than 30 seconds of idling is needed for oil to circulate through your engine. Many components, such as the wheel bearings, tires and suspension system will only warm up once the vehicle is moving.
•Restarting your car many times has little impact on engine components, adding only around $10 per year to the cost of driving, money that is recovered in fuel savings.
•Ten seconds of idling uses more fuel than restarting the engine.
•Idling can damage your engine since it is not operating at its peak temperature where fuel is completely burned. Fuel residue from incomplete burning can damage engine parts.
•Idling a vehicle for 10 minutes a day uses an average of 100 litres of gas a year. If gas costs 70 cents a litre, you will save $70 per year, just by turning your key.
•During the winter, Canadians idle their vehicles for a combined total of 75 million minutes/day. This is equal to a vehicle idling for 144 years. Although we idle our vehicles about 40% less in summer, we still waste an enormous amount of fuel and money.
•A block heater warms the oil and engine coolant, making it easier to start your vehicle and improving winter fuel economy by as much as 10%.

kayaknya dari artikel ini, pola pikir orang, termasuk gw, hehehe , untuk memanaskan mesin tiap pagi sebaiknya diubah aja deh, selain pemborosan, pemanasan ternyata dapat juga mengakibatkan rusaknya mesin (kalimat yg di-bold)

selain itu dari site ini juga ada nasehat tambahan:

Here's what the Canadian environment ministry has to say:

•An idling engine releases twice as many exhaust fumes than a vehicle in motion.
•If every driver in Canada avoided idling for 5 minutes a day, we could prevent 1.6 million tonnes of carbon dioxide from being emitted.
•No more than 30 seconds of idling is needed for oil to circulate through your engine. Many components, such as the wheel bearings, tires and suspension system will only warm up once the vehicle is moving.
•Restarting your car many times has little impact on engine components, adding only around $10 per year to the cost of driving, money that is recovered in fuel savings.
•Ten seconds of idling uses more fuel than restarting the engine.
•Idling can damage your engine since it is not operating at its peak temperature where fuel is completely burned. Fuel residue from incomplete burning can damage engine parts.
•Idling a vehicle for 10 minutes a day uses an average of 100 litres of gas a year. If gas costs 70 cents a litre, you will save $70 per year, just by turning your key.
•During the winter, Canadians idle their vehicles for a combined total of 75 million minutes/day. This is equal to a vehicle idling for 144 years. Although we idle our vehicles about 40% less in summer, we still waste an enormous amount of fuel and money.
•A block heater warms the oil and engine coolant, making it easier to start your vehicle and improving winter fuel economy by as much as 10%.

dan untuk mesin turbo (diesel maupun bensin), cool down itu penting (sekarang sih uda ada turbo timer jadi enak):

I know that this if off-topic, but cool-down idling for a minute or three is necessary on most turbo vehicles, including diesels. The reason is that the turbo bearing has engine oil running through it; at operating temperature it's hot enough to coke (char) the oil but the constant flow of oil prevents this from happening. If you turn the engine off while the turbo is hot, the oil in the bearing will char and cause terrible wear when it next spools up - it's like pouring fine sand in there. If you let it idle for a few minutes, it will cool below the char point of the stationary oil. Purely synthetic oils are a lot more difficult to char.

[maxx]

Yup.. spt gw bilang.. intinya.. panasin mesin hanya berlaku u/ pertama kali dihidupkan setelah mesin mobil off/parkir lebih dari 6jam => ga perlu lebih dari 1 menit, mobil sudah bisa dijalankan. diurutlah..jangan lgs geber.
Bila Mesin off tidak lebih dari 6 Jam.. tidak perlu dipanasin lagi.. cuma perlu tunggu 10-15 detik aja bisa langsung jalan.

Dan yg paling penting matikan mesin saat rpm idle..jangan geber2 trus turn-off.

[Risol1]

atau pake remote stater bro kalo mao masuk mobil langsung gas.....
start dulu 2 menit sebelomnya...jadi bisa langsung ngacir....

[mansetha]

mobil perlu adanya pemanasan terlebih dahulu, soal pemanasannya berapa lama itu tergantung dengan rekomendasi masing2 pabrikan, biasanya setiap kendaraan punya temperatur mesin yang ideal untuk bisa langsung diberi beban, biasanya ada panel indikator di petujuk temperatur ada garis putus (atau lainnya), bila jarum sudah pada garis tsb maka mesin sudah pada temperatur idealnya, bisa langsung bejek gas deh, coba aja kalo belum pada temperatur idealnya kemudian bejek gas kuat kalo nggak loyo tuh mesin...abis belum siap...itulah gunanya pemanasan selain memberikan kesempatan oli untuk merata juga untuk mencapai temperatur ideal sebuah mesin...
misalnya kalo pada mobil mits lancer GTi pada start awal servo akan merespon untuk memberikan rpm tinggi guna mempercepat temperatur ideal mesin...nggak tahu kalo mobil lain...kemudian baru deh ngaciiirrrr....

[uch]

perasaan dulu pernah diomongin deh tapi gak papa
panasin mesin uda jadi ritual buat sebagian orang indonesia, bener. gw aja masih panasin mesin tiap pagi barang 5-10 menit, coz ntuh mobil tiap pagi uda gw "hajar", so musti warming up dulu
tp tadi baru aja gw iseng2 browsing n ketemu site ini nih:
http://ask.metafilter.com/30641/Should- ... re-I-drive

katanya:

Here's what the Canadian environment ministry has to say:

•An idling engine releases twice as many exhaust fumes than a vehicle in motion.
•If every driver in Canada avoided idling for 5 minutes a day, we could prevent 1.6 million tonnes of carbon dioxide from being emitted.
•No more than 30 seconds of idling is needed for oil to circulate through your engine. Many components, such as the wheel bearings, tires and suspension system will only warm up once the vehicle is moving.
•Restarting your car many times has little impact on engine components, adding only around $10 per year to the cost of driving, money that is recovered in fuel savings.
•Ten seconds of idling uses more fuel than restarting the engine.
•Idling can damage your engine since it is not operating at its peak temperature where fuel is completely burned. Fuel residue from incomplete burning can damage engine parts.
•Idling a vehicle for 10 minutes a day uses an average of 100 litres of gas a year. If gas costs 70 cents a litre, you will save $70 per year, just by turning your key.
•During the winter, Canadians idle their vehicles for a combined total of 75 million minutes/day. This is equal to a vehicle idling for 144 years. Although we idle our vehicles about 40% less in summer, we still waste an enormous amount of fuel and money.
•A block heater warms the oil and engine coolant, making it easier to start your vehicle and improving winter fuel economy by as much as 10%.

kayaknya dari artikel ini, pola pikir orang, termasuk gw, hehehe , untuk memanaskan mesin tiap pagi sebaiknya diubah aja deh, selain pemborosan, pemanasan ternyata dapat juga mengakibatkan rusaknya mesin (kalimat yg di-bold)

selain itu dari site ini juga ada nasehat tambahan:

Lha.. itu khan TIDAK HANYA berlaku buat konteks pemanasan DOANG. Asal suhu optimal mesin belum tercapai pembakaran tidak akan sempurna. Mo kondisi idle (pemanasan) atau sambil jalan pelan2, sami mawon tuh bos. Malah lebih parah kalo sambil jalan. Kalo mo cepat panas, yg digeber2. Cuman kalo geber2 sebelum olie naik, bisa cepat rusak jg.

[StRaDe_Jazz]

gak tau juga sih ya... karena itu disebutin juga kalo baru dinyalain, bawanya pelan2 aja gitu... seenggaknya bisa panas lebih cepat (jalan 1800-2500rpm) daripada nunggu idling (1100rpm)

[kimi]

bukanny kalo indikator oli udah mati (ga lebih dr 5 s) mobil siap pake?

[StRaDe_Jazz]

iya, bener, indikator oli yg ngefek. sama disebutin juga di manual book jazz gw

[Risol1]

indikator oli sedetik jg mati...wakakaka panasin semenit masih boleh lah bro...
kalo patokannya indikator oli sih sama aja gak panasin mobil.....at least tunggu jarum RPM turun ke posisi langsam/idle

[leadingedge]

Gw sih manasin mesin selalu 10 detik doang, toh ntar pas jalan ga langsung digeber. Jalan pelan2 sama manasin idle mah ga beda. Cuma pada saat ini temperatur oli belum mencapai temperatur kerja mesin dan jeroan mesin belum memuai optimal makanya jangan digeber. Rugi kalo manasin lama2 soalnya kan lagi posisi warming up yg mana Air Fuel Ratio nya lg rich, ngabisin bensin aje..

[Risol1]

gw emang perlu waktu sekitar semenitan untuk ngeset radio station/nyari CDs, pasang seat belt, ngatur kaca spion, dll...
ya gua pake aja wkt segitu buat manasin sekalian, kecuali kalo dah telat...start langsung ngacir.

[kimi]

iya sih, asal ga sengajain ditinggal manasinnya, kelamaan..