[WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

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@ turboman, andy1800, uch: Thanks buat masukannya :)

ntar rencana nya emang mau test drive satu persatu, cuman mau minta masukannya dulu sebelum test drive biar tau dulu apa aja plus minusnya begitu..

anyway thanks alot. :)
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standar audio nya ga bisa DVD tuh Captiva..test 3-3 nya trs lapor balik bro.pgn tau pndpt bro sendiri soal kelebihan-kekurangan 3 mobil itu..
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@ HilmanZ: test drive nya masih lama bro..
posisi skrg masih belum d indo :(

tp ntar kalo udah di test satu persatu, gue lapor in kesini lagi :)

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xtr40rd1n4rym4n wrote:@relisar: kok d websitenya cuman 289 jt ya??

wah ntar di cross check lagi deh :)

menurut bung relisar gimana?? ada saran?
yg d signature fortunernya keren tuh :)
Di check dulu deh bro soalnya bedanya harga jauh bgt... :e-think:

Kalau sy kebetulan ada Fort. Kalau disuruh pilih antara 3 itu saya pilih Fort. Sy milih mobil sy lebih pertimbangan ke merk yah dan diantara ketiga itu sy lebih suka Toyota. Lagian makai mobil merk Amrik sepertinya kurang sreg aja di Indo, kecuali Jeep ... :mrgreen: Sebenarnya semuanya mobil bagus kok bro, it's just a matter of preference hihi... :angel:
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relisar wrote:Kalau disuruh pilih antara 3 itu saya pilih Fort. Sy milih mobil sy lebih pertimbangan ke merk yah dan diantara ketiga itu sy lebih suka Toyota.
dlm "kasus" ini, Fortie yg "disediakan" adl diesel (manual only)...yg lain matix loh...
tetep pilih Fortie bro? ...;)

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relisar wrote:Plus gw baca sedikit review Captiva VCDi mesinnya cukup bertenaga 2000cc 150hp 320Nm. Pemakaian bensin rata2x 1:15
VCDi kok diminumin bensin bro? ..... :e-pray: :e-pray: semoga mesinnya tidak apa2 :e-pray: :e-pray:
relisar wrote:...dan harganya saya baca sekitar 320jt.
Itu yg bro maksud bensin yah 289jt? Kok sy baca harganya 320jt?
kl harganya, di http://www.chevroletcaptivaindonesia.co ... ce_ind.php memang terbaca 289.5jt, benar spt yg bro xtr40rd1n4rym4n lihat....
yg bensin A/T or M/T (tentu saja) malah lbh murah .
320jt lihat yg dimana ya bro ?

anyway,
terusterang saya baru nyadar, ternyata Captiva Diesel jg cuma M/T ya....waaa...ilfeel dee... :mrgreen: ..no offense..hehe.
pdhal engine spec, meskipun cuma 1991cc, nampaknya cukup mumpuni buat dibikin matic looh...
wah, bro TS, ....diantara 3 ini, saya jadi nggak milih samasekali neeeh....heuheheh.
kalau terpaksanya banget ya Fortie boleh dee....duuh tp maksa banget itu loh... cuma berdasar merk doang pertimbangannya... :mrgreen:

anyway lagi....
waaa...beberapa data di website chevy kok ngaco ya ??!
salah satu yg terlihat adlh di spec diesel engine...kok ignition systemnya direct ignition jg, sama dg bensin sih ??!
bukannya lbh tepat kalau self ignition ya ?? ....... atau apa ya, istilah yg lbh benernya ?
malah di http://www.chevrolet.co.id/public/Produ ... px?order=2 ...spec dimensinya jg ngaco deh !
atau emang ada Captiva versi kecil ??

hmmmm..... serius nggak bikin webnya neh :e-doh:
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sama ky website suzuki dnk..msh krg smpurna..hehe..
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@relisar, andy1800: andaikan fortuner diesel ada yg matic, udah pasti gue ga pake pusing langsung pilih fortuner deh..

itu captiva diesel yg bener tiptronik atau manual doank kaya fortuner??
ada yg bisa klarifikasi ga??
terus terang lebih jatuh hati ke fortuner ma captiva(krn matic/tiptronik - kl bener nih)
everest itu pilihan terakhir... (no offence buat yg punya)

terus harganya yg bener gimana neh??
ada yg bisa kasih info untuk harga masing2??

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Captiva diesel itu matic Tiptronic..dari segi harga ini mbl yg paling value for money..hrg yg 289 juta..kalo yg 320 juta itu dulu estimasi dari majalah Autobild sebeleum Captiva diesel msk sini..
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Tapi menurut websitenya itu, yg dipasarkan di indonesia sini adlh :
Captiva LS 2.0 Diesel MT - Rp. 289.500.000 ,-

http://www.chevroletcaptivaindonesia.co ... ce_ind.php
kalau yg dipasarkan di luar negri biasanya memang lbh variatif...

atau, versi Matic Tiptronic yg (akan) dipasarkan disini itu, jg estimasi dr majalah Autobild sblm captiva diesel masuk sini....?
..... atau memang itu website jg ngaco abis....?!

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perasaan 320 itu angka torsinya deh... :roll:
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meskipun loe lbh mengandalkan perasaan.... tapi bener banget deh....








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To all:

ada yg tau ga, diantara ketiga pilihan diatas, mobil yg mana aja yg baris keduanya bisa sliding?

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andy1800 wrote:lebar antar baris jok: mgkin everest yg plg lebar...tp posisi duduknya nyusahin, hampir jongkok...krn lantai dan jok sangat rendah.
sedangkan Fortie, posisi duduknya lebih wajar..bahkan jok brs ke-2 dpt di-sliding.
selain Fortuner, maksudnya ?
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@ andy1800: cuman fortuner ajakah yg baris keduanya bisa di sliding?
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nampaknya begitu.
Evie jelas tidak sliding....Captiva, gw blm pernah test seat....
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xtr40rd1n4rym4n wrote:To all:

ada yg tau ga, diantara ketiga pilihan diatas, mobil yg mana aja yg baris keduanya bisa sliding?

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Sliding sepertinya ngga bisa tapi bisa dilipet ke depan buat angkut barang (Fortuner). Everest kayaknya juga bisa deh :shrug:
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wah berarti ketiga2 nya ga bisa di sliding ke depan donk?

soalnya kalo bisa di slide at least row ke3 masih bisa di kasih space lebih gitu..
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bro extraordinaryman,
kebetulan saya punya fortun 2007 dan juga baru aja beli everest 2008 awal. Overall sih saya tetep jago kan evie, dalam segi performance n comfort mah fortun kalah jauh... tapi kalo dari segi hrg purnajual sih fortun lbh okay. Kalo captiva sih gw kurang cocok... too expensive for what you get :D
Cuman amat disayangkan... dealer ford yg saya beli dulu itu rada brengsek sih... jadi gw rada kapok ama ford..
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relisar wrote:Sliding sepertinya ngga bisa tapi bisa dilipet ke depan buat angkut barang (Fortuner)
Loh, masa' gw salah inget sih... waktu gw numpang Fortie, perasaan baris keduanya gw sliding loh...
atau gw rancu sm mobill laen :mrgreen:
memang bukan rel sliding di lantai spt di kebanyakan MPV gitu...tp rel sliding mirip jok depan.
atau,
mgkin ada beberpa versi jok ya ?
versi G, Lux, dan V beda nggak sih, konfigurasi joknya ? cuma beda kulitnya doang kan ?
yg punya bro relisar & bro harley versi G Lux ?
hmmm...tp bro relisar org id42ner, infonya pasti valid....so, bisa jadi gw salah inget. then, sori kl gitu....

harley wrote:Overall sih saya tetep jago kan evie, dalam segi performance n comfort mah fortun kalah jauh
nah, this is good, ada bro harley muncul lg neh...
terus terang gw byk put what he told, into my consideration, krn bro harley punya dua2nya.

cuma, yg bikin gw ilfeel Evie adlh posisi duduk pnumpang yg lebih nekuk lutut drpd Fortie...
padahal, kita kan umumnya bakalan duduk di belakang bro.....

jg krn dimensinya yg "tanggung", kurang nampak bongsor, meskipun berada diantara kijangs.. cuma "beda tipis".
kalau Fortie, masih berasa nongol kalau berada diantara kijangs.... :mrgreen:

tuas persnelling A/T nya Evie yg masih "lurus2 aja" dan handbrake yg berasa "kuno" :mrgreen: (yg memang krg enak buat gw yg sering tarik handbrake...hrs lepas punggung dr sandaran).

makanya gw masih "harap2 cemas" menunggu munculnya Fortuner Duratorq A/T... :mrgreen:



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@ bung harley:

dari kedua mobil yg bung harley punya, row ke dua nya sama2 ga bisa di slide ya bung harley?
bukannya captiva cuman 289,5 jt ya bung harley??

anda punya pengalaman buruk apa neh dari dealer ford, buat masukan saya aja ..

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@ bung andy1800: kalo diliat dari gambar interior nya fortuner yg diattach, row kedua bisa tuh di slide, kan ada tuas nya.

cuman kalo pada mobilnya bisa ga ya??

terus ada bocoran ga kira2 fortuner bakal pasar in diesel nya yg AT ga??

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andy1800 wrote:
relisar wrote:Sliding sepertinya ngga bisa tapi bisa dilipet ke depan buat angkut barang (Fortuner)
Loh, masa' gw salah inget sih... waktu gw numpang Fortie, perasaan baris keduanya gw sliding loh...
atau gw rancu sm mobill laen :mrgreen:
memang bukan rel sliding di lantai spt di kebanyakan MPV gitu...tp rel sliding mirip jok depan.
atau,
mgkin ada beberpa versi jok ya ?
versi G, Lux, dan V beda nggak sih, konfigurasi joknya ? cuma beda kulitnya doang kan ?
yg punya bro relisar & bro harley versi G Lux ?
hmmm...tp bro relisar org id42ner, infonya pasti valid....so, bisa jadi gw salah inget. then, sori kl gitu....

harley wrote:Overall sih saya tetep jago kan evie, dalam segi performance n comfort mah fortun kalah jauh
nah, this is good, ada bro harley muncul lg neh...
terus terang gw byk put what he told, into my consideration, krn bro harley punya dua2nya.

cuma, yg bikin gw ilfeel Evie adlh posisi duduk pnumpang yg lebih nekuk lutut drpd Fortie...
padahal, kita kan umumnya bakalan duduk di belakang bro.....

jg krn dimensinya yg "tanggung", kurang nampak bongsor, meskipun berada diantara kijangs.. cuma "beda tipis".
kalau Fortie, masih berasa nongol kalau berada diantara kijangs.... :mrgreen:

tuas persnelling A/T nya Evie yg masih "lurus2 aja" dan handbrake yg berasa "kuno" :mrgreen: (yg memang krg enak buat gw yg sering tarik handbrake...hrs lepas punggung dr sandaran).

makanya gw masih "harap2 cemas" menunggu munculnya Fortuner Duratorq A/T... :mrgreen:
1. Kursi Fortuner baris 2 bisa sliding dan recline hampir tidur, kursi baris 3 posisi normal. Kalo sama pacar...seru lho! CR-V, Captiva, Escape...tidak ada yg bisa! Kalo Everest belon pernah nyoba recline nya seberapa jauh...

2. Kalo soal tampang di parkiran, Harrier juga keliatan kaya anak kecil parkir disebelah the big bad Fort. Saya cuman minder sama Landcruiser atau Nissan Patrol aja kalo di jalanan...or truk Fuso hahaha...

3. Selain rem parkir model tarik ala Kijang Grand Extra, antena radio Everest juga model jadul (yang di pilar A model tarik)...gak ada steering wheel audio control. Buat saya sih kayanya kurang refined aja. Antena model kaya gitu, kalo disimpen gak bisa denger radio, kalo dipanjangin cupu banget...serba salah.

4. Performance Fortuner diesel ataupun bensin bisa dinaikkan dengan biaya tidak mahal...tanya aja Bung Turboman.

5. Bantingan keras Fortuner bisa di minimize dengan mudah dengan ganti per belakang...udah modif yg common. This is a car built to carry heavy loads, a true "utility" vehicle.

6. Dealer network dan service Toyota for the "Total ownership experience" - hard to beat

Kalo mau Everest ambil yg 4x4 aja bro, biar gak jadi SUV banci kaya kite2 hehe...
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FortunerMan wrote:
andy1800 wrote:Loh, masa' gw salah inget sih... waktu gw numpang Fortie, perasaan baris keduanya gw sliding loh...
atau gw rancu sm mobill laen :mrgreen:
memang bukan rel sliding di lantai spt di kebanyakan MPV gitu...tp rel sliding mirip jok depan.
atau,
mgkin ada beberpa versi jok ya ?
versi G, Lux, dan V beda nggak sih, konfigurasi joknya ? cuma beda kulitnya doang kan ?
yg punya bro relisar & bro harley versi G Lux ?
hmmm...tp bro relisar org id42ner, infonya pasti valid....so, bisa jadi gw salah inget. then, sori kl gitu....
1. Kursi Fortuner baris 2 bisa sliding dan recline hampir tidur,
aaah, sukurlah..ternyata ingatan gw masih nurmal2 saja..... :mrgreen:
@xtr40rd1n4rym4n ...beliau ini big boss-nya id42ner bro... sabdanya paling valid ...hehehe
FortunerMan wrote:2. Kalo soal tampang di parkiran, Harrier juga keliatan kaya anak kecil parkir disebelah the big bad Fort. Saya cuman minder sama Landcruiser atau Nissan Patrol aja kalo di jalanan...or truk Fuso hahaha...
that's it !!.... cocok !! ...hahaaha
FortunerMan wrote:4. Performance Fortuner diesel ataupun bensin bisa dinaikkan dengan biaya tidak mahal...tanya aja Bung Turboman.
yg nggak bisa "ditingkatkan" dr Fort Diesel, adalah menjadi berperforma "nggak pegal kaki" nya..aliyaz A/T nya ituh....heheheh ...
that's why pokoknya ingin Fortuner A/T Duratorq...halah! lg2 ngotot..hahah
FortunerMan wrote:Kalo mau Everest ambil yg 4x4 aja bro, biar gak jadi SUV banci kaya kite2 hehe...
maslahnya, 50 jeti selisihnya bro..... hrs mikir 1000x dulu... :mrgreen:
makanyaa, tadinya mau tanya2, ttg niat gw meng-4WD kan yg 4x2....sekaligus "menggelapkan pajak"....hahahaha

tlg dijawabin yg gw tanya di sana bro ... :thanks:
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