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beda rem belakang cakram dan tromol

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Mo tanya donk guys perbedaan rem blakang tromol dan cakram.. biasa liad kalo rem tromol itu dipake MPV gitu ya..kalo rem blakang cakram biasa yang pake kaya sedan gt kan..knp begt? trs kayanya suzuki di indo ga perna gunain rem blakang cakram..ga kaya honda or toyota.
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itu semua tergantung kepelitan & ketidak pelitan dari produsen masing2... :lol:
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tapi bro...kalo rem terlalu pakem itu gak enak lho... :e-naughty:
makanya setiap produsen sudah memperhitungkan untuk pake rem tromol atau cakram... :D
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pabrikan sdh menghitung, besar mesin dan jenis rem yg dipakai... dari cakram diameter sampai rem belakang tromol.
alasan lain, tidak ada gunanya memakai 4cakram jika 2cakram+2drum dirasa sudah cukup... mobil bisa ditekan biaya produksi nya... simple aja...

suzuki-asia, meski di belakang drum, sudah ABS - EBD.
note: Utk suzuki di US, front-rear menggunakan discbrake pabrikan... karena mesin 2000-2300CC.

atau utk performance, bisa dicustom... 4disc ront-rear. once again, sesuai kebutuhan.
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rem tromol bagus banget buat beban berat. (makanya truk yg mahal pun pakai tromol)

di indo? kan seneng tuh rame2 diisi penuh mobilnya. ya tentu bagus pake kombinasi tromol

betul. cakram tromol vs cakram cakram ga beda jauh kok (kata garden speed). lebih penting upgrade rem depan daripada swap ke cakram belakang.
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emang truck pake drum? bukannya rem angin?
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author wrote:emang truck pake drum? bukannya rem angin?
rem angin itu hanya sistem... supaya waktu pengereman tidak berat. kekuatan kaki orang kan ada batasnya...
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poeticmind wrote:
author wrote:emang truck pake drum? bukannya rem angin?
rem angin itu hanya sistem... supaya waktu pengereman tidak berat. kekuatan kaki orang kan ada batasnya...
kecuali superman...
kalo ga salah cuman membantu pedalnya lebih enteng dipijak ajah kan? :ungg:
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truck yg rem sering dikira k*ntut..hahahahah:p
kalo ga salah..kelemahan tromol cuman satu...debris sisa remnya ga isa kebuang keluar...tapi unggul jg..dibanding cakram tuh tromol anti baling lho...CMIIW
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^

masing2 punya kelebihan & kekurangan... :D
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Re: beda rem belakang cakram dan tromol

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Rem cakram belakang biasanya cepat sekali panas...(rem belakang adl sistem pengereman utama, sama seperti spd motor)
Maka dr itu tromol lebih sering digunakan..(saya klo slalom jg pake tromol, lebih enak...)
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NYoman wrote:Rem cakram belakang biasanya cepat sekali panas...(rem belakang adl sistem pengereman utama, sama seperti spd motor)
Maka dr itu tromol lebih sering digunakan..(saya klo slalom jg pake tromol, lebih enak...)
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ah masa sih... sepeda motor sistem pengereman nya kan ga bareng alias depan sendiri, belakang sendiri.... jadi yang dimaksud pengereman utama itu gimana? kalo motor kan terserah mau direm roda yang mana...

kalo meurut gw sih pengeraman yang lebih efektif tuh roda yang depan, (jd mungkin cenderrung lebih panas karena sering digunakan) apalagi untuk motor... dikarenakan mobil or motor melaju kedepan....rem belakang hanya untuk menjga kesatabilan tapi yang untuk benar benar mengurangi kecepaatan (deselerasi) yah roda depan....

coba aja kecepatan tinggi trus rem ruh roda depan...pasti jarak pengereman lebih pendek daripada saat mengerem roda belakang salah salah malah bisa ngepot ...
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maksudnya, saya setuju utk yg soal slalom... hehehehe

pada motor, rem belakang sebagai pengereman utama, karena kebiasaan saja... tidak semua org yg naik motor menggunakan rem depan sebagai rem utama, karena takut utk terpelanting kedepan... berbeda dengan org yg mengerti karakter motor, speed, performance... pasti akan melakukan pengereman bergantian antara depan dan belakang.
tapi bro dhanz benar, rem utama ada didepan, belakang membantu tugas rem depan dan menjaga kestabilan berat kendaraan. sementara disatu sisi, ada yg beranggapan rem depan mempunyai tugas pertama pengereman, selanjutnya pengereman yg paling besar diserahkan ke rem belakang.

so, mungkin tergantung teknologi dan feature dari rem masing2 kendaraan, dan kebiasaan.

utk mobil, pengereman diatur automatically oleh master pump (pada mobil lama) dan ABS (mobil baru). dan sistem EBD (Electronic Brake-force Distributor), alat EBD ini mengatur kapan saat rem belakang melakukan pengereman, sensor akan menghitung dari berat saat kendaraan dipenuhi muatan/kosong.
kalo ABS udah pada tau lah ya...
karena, pada kendaraan roda 4 tanpa sistem ABS dan EBD, sistem pengereman belakang akan lebih cepat melakukan 'lock' dibanding rem depan... that's why pada mobil2 lama pengereman mendadak akan "spin".

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Hah? Emang sepeda motor ada rem nya ya? Coba deh ke Denpasar...pasti anda akan mengira motor gak ada rem nya deh hehe :P...
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FortunerMan wrote:Hah? Emang sepeda motor ada rem nya ya? Coba deh ke Denpasar...pasti anda akan mengira motor gak ada rem nya deh hehe :P...
betul! kalo dibali paket penjualan motor memang tanpa rem... :e-naughty:
dan, jangan kaget kalo ke toko org masih pake helm, karena helm di bali ada kunci otomatis hanya bisa dibuka setelah sampai dirumah.
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poeticmind wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:Hah? Emang sepeda motor ada rem nya ya? Coba deh ke Denpasar...pasti anda akan mengira motor gak ada rem nya deh hehe :P...
betul! kalo dibali paket penjualan motor memang tanpa rem... :e-naughty:
dan, jangan kaget kalo ke toko org masih pake helm, karena helm di bali ada kunci otomatis hanya bisa dibuka setelah sampai dirumah.
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hahahahaha j/k laaaaa bro!
yg bener, kalo ke bali hati2 sama pengendara motor... karena mereka males maen rem. makanya banyak yg bilang, beli motor disana paketnya tanpa rem...
udah banyak kejadian, so careful... mending kita ngalah laaah...

urusan helm, first mereka ga mau helm nya ilang... 2nd, males. terakhir...helm mahal...gaya.

hehehe! gue ga jelek2in bali... ya! besides all, bali adalah rumah tercinta gue disamping bandung. anggep aja kekonyolan sehari2...
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He3x...
Klo berani jln2 aj d malam hari pk mobil or motor, pasti di salip sama yg naik motor(terutama org mabuk)
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Pantat mobil saya udah jadi bulan2an motor2 Bali...dah pasrah aja...ntar kalo dah balik Jakarta baru perbaiki...
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wah baru tau kalo rem terlalu pakem itu tidak baik
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kutkuy wrote:wah baru tau kalo rem terlalu pakem itu tidak baik
lhaaaa muncul lagi?! kemana aja bro? ke bdg kok ga mampir? :D

mobil gue di bali udah jadi sandaran motor di lampu merah... pasrah, dikira pohon kali...
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poeticmind wrote:lhaaaa muncul lagi?! kemana aja bro? ke bdg kok ga mampir? :D

mobil gue di bali udah jadi sandaran motor di lampu merah... pasrah, dikira pohon kali...
hehhehe sorry sakit nih bos..... ga online jadinya....

mobilnya warna apa bro disandarin sama motor gitu? hahahahaa.... gua pikir orang2 bali lebih tau diri
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kutkuy wrote:
poeticmind wrote:lhaaaa muncul lagi?! kemana aja bro? ke bdg kok ga mampir? :D

mobil gue di bali udah jadi sandaran motor di lampu merah... pasrah, dikira pohon kali...
hehhehe sorry sakit nih bos..... ga online jadinya....

mobilnya warna apa bro disandarin sama motor gitu? hahahahaa.... gua pikir orang2 bali lebih tau diri
ijo! beneran dikira pohon... :?

bali itu banyak pendatang. so mana tau itu wong bali/bukan... di kuta aja gue banyak nemu urang sunda.. beda gang aja udah nemu wong sby ma arek malang...

apa sih hubungan nya ma rem... lupa gue... :upss:
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satyr wrote:rem tromol bagus banget buat beban berat. (makanya truk yg mahal pun pakai tromol)

di indo? kan seneng tuh rame2 diisi penuh mobilnya. ya tentu bagus pake kombinasi tromol

betul. cakram tromol vs cakram cakram ga beda jauh kok (kata garden speed). lebih penting upgrade rem depan daripada swap ke cakram belakang.
jadi kebanyakan mobil sperti yaris, jazz, swift, brake biasnya lebih ke depan ya ?, sehingga dicondongkan untuk upgrade rem depan? bro satyr