New Livina (saja) = Baby Livina?

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New Livina (saja) = Baby Livina?

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Mungkin ada yg bisa quote dari http://www.worldcarfans.com (saya postnya dari hp, jadi ga bisa quote, lagi di luar kota soalnya). Selain introduce Grand Livina ternyata Nissan Global juga ngumumin mau launch Livina (saja, tanpa embel2 GENISS) di Cina. Asumsi saya, kalau di Indo namanya juga bakalan jadi LIVINA, tanpa embel2 GRAND. Mungkinkah ini GRAND LIVINA sasis pendek yg pernah di bahas Tabloid Otomotif? Mungkin member SM bisa link-kan n baca lgsg dari artikel di web World Car Fans
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launchnya 22-28 april ini di AUTO SHANGHAI dan lgsg di jual akhir April ini.
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Yup, ini aku bantu upload gambarnya...

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Karna Livina Geniss launch Nov '06 di China disusul Launch di Indo bulan April '07 ini,
berarti Kalo "short" Livina ato "Mini" Livina ini launch April di China,
mungkin bakal Launch di Indo Sekitar September '07 ini.
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kemarin Nissan Livina (not Grand), pesaing Jazz, sdh diperkenalkan waktu launching Grand Livina di senayan city. dan warnanya merah menyala booo..
tapi nurutku, model masih kerenan Jazz. tp dengan asumsi harga lebih murah dr Grand Livina.. cukup menarik. ada fotonya.. ntar senin baru bisa saya post dr kantor. di rmh cuman dial up...:)
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Upss...
Emang ada yah Livina yg pendek itu (kursi 2 baris) di Senayan City?
Kok gw gak liat yah?

Yg di ruang kaca ato yg di Hall yg ada panggungnya itu?
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Post by hunter »

wah gua kalah cepet post disini tentang Nissan Livina...:)

nih deh gua post foto2 di senty. mobil ini ga dipajang, krn ini surprise-nya Nissan.

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gua ada rekaman shootingnya, ntar di antor deh..filenya gede.
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btw, feeling gua, waktu Indonesian Motor Show, nih Livina sdh dipajang... Motor Show bulan apa? July apa September sih?
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tampang depan nya khas livina lah, bagus banget, tp ekornya kok jelek sih? 'tegak' banget, masih bagusan Yaris (itu aja di mata gw uda jelek, hehehe)
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Tapi kalo belakang di bikin landai kayak Swift, org2 juga bakalan protes, jadi sempit katanya....
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Hmm, Livina ini memiliki proporsi yang aneh, ya. Walau harganya mungkin akan head-to-head dengan Jazz/Yaris, tapi Livina ini jelas bukan supermini seperti Jazz/Yaris.

Livina ini MPV dengan sasis pendek. Jadi kalau diibaratkan, daripada Jazz, lebih mirip Stream yang dipotong baris ketiganya. Mungkin kalau dari lineup, mirip Honda Edix, tapi lebih kecil.

Jazz ditambah boot, jadilah new City.
Tapi kalau Livina dipanjangkan, ya kembali jadi Grand Livina.

Rupanya ini meniru strategi Renault (pemilik Nissan) dengan Scenic/Grand Scenic, dan Espace/Grand Espace.
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Post by liongkiky »

Buntutnya parah mirip design mobil lama, bagusan jazz, swift atau yaris ...
Bingung gw sama nissan grand livina dah kecil ini malah di potong lagi hehehehe
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conan wrote:Hmm, Livina ini memiliki proporsi yang aneh, ya. Walau harganya mungkin akan head-to-head dengan Jazz/Yaris, tapi Livina ini jelas bukan supermini seperti Jazz/Yaris.

Livina ini MPV dengan sasis pendek. Jadi kalau diibaratkan, daripada Jazz, lebih mirip Stream yang dipotong baris ketiganya. Mungkin kalau dari lineup, mirip Honda Edix, tapi lebih kecil.

Jazz ditambah boot, jadilah new City.
Tapi kalau Livina dipanjangkan, ya kembali jadi Grand Livina.

Rupanya ini meniru strategi Renault (pemilik Nissan) dengan Scenic/Grand Scenic, dan Espace/Grand Espace.
iya ya, benar jg oom
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Wah, udah di pajang juga di senayan city! Kira2 kalo saya kesono hari minggu ini masi ada ga Livina pendek ya? Btw di cina livina ini bakalan pakai mesin 1.6, disini pasti 1.5 ya?
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conan wrote:.............Walau harganya mungkin akan head-to-head dengan Jazz/Yaris, tapi Livina ini jelas bukan supermini seperti Jazz/Yaris.
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Barusan saya telp salah satu Sales Nissan yg ada di Price List
Livina pendek ini harga katanya mungkin akan di kisaran 120-130jt
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buset dah, murah amat dibanding Jazz/Yaris/Swift... feature nya gimana tuh? kalo samaan dgn 3 itu bisa2 jadi penggebuk pasar layaknya Avanxenia nih :x
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StRaDe_Jazz wrote:buset dah, murah amat dibanding Jazz/Yaris/Swift... feature nya gimana tuh? kalo samaan dgn 3 itu bisa2 jadi penggebuk pasar layaknya Avanxenia nih :x
Hmm menurut g sih kagak. Karena biar bagaimanapun 7 seater dan 5 seater, Dan tahu sendiri dah orang indo gimana responnya terhadap ruang dan jumlah orang yang bisa dimasukan kedalam suatu mobil :) Tapi yang pasti pasar Yaris, Jazz, Swift dan SX4 bakalan keguncang nih. Bisa saja jadi market leader. Apalagi kalau bener harganya seperti apa yang dibilang bro Mike. Toh satu yang pasti, Jazz lebih laku karrena Yaris, Swift kan karena ruang baris kedua dan bagasinya... apalagi Livina, yang jelas2 dipotong dari versi 7 seaternya.Ya kan?
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Ato malah bisa2 gak laku?
karna dgn nambah sedikit dapet yg kursi 3 baris?
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Hmm bener sih. Tapi apa mungkin Bro Mike ? kalau bedanya 30 Juta, dan dalam hal ini yang kita maksud adalah para calon pembeli Yaris/ Jazz ? Seberapa pentingkan model dibandingkan dengan pentingnya space ? asumsiku, efesiensi BBM tidak terlalu berbeda ?
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pasar indonesia ini aneh, bisa jadi Livina laku, dilihat dari harganya yg murah
bisa jadi Livina gak laku, karena modelnya jelek... kalo laku ya laku, kalo gak laku ya gak laku... pasar indonesia gak setengah2 sih sejauh pengamatan gw
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Kalau dari analis gw, mungkin strategi Nissan patut diacungi jempol juga.

Pertama emang sudah pasti Grand Livina akan head to head dgn Innova, Ava/Xe, APV, pasar MPV ini pasti Livina akan fight abis-abisan.

"Livina" 5 seater selain emang akan fight di compact car (jazz, yaris, swift) juga launchingnya dibuat belakangan, tujuannya mungkin grand Livina dibuat dulu familiar dimata dan telinga masyarakat Indo sehingga menjadi shock terapy awal karena INGAT MPV pasti lebih populer dibanding compact car, sesudah itu baru dikasih kejutan dgn dikelaurkannya "Livina".

Biasanyakan keluarga yang udah lebih duit, mungkin mobil pertamanya MPV/SUV second carnya baru pilih sedan, compact car or city car.

Tapi OOT nih, kok yang baru launching LIVINA tapi iklannya di acara 4 Mata Tukul semalam malah LIVINA gak ada, malahan lebih banyak INNOVA dan APV. Tanya kenapa ?
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mungkin senin ntar bos, uda gak ada space buat iklan livina kali
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Kenapa yah, proporsinya sepintas seperti Nissan Note !?
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bandingin sama Nissan Latio bagusan mana ya ?
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harganya juga bagusan Latio, hehehe, gak bisa dibandingin lah, kelasnya beda kok
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Hmm... Livina 5 Seater? mungkin seperti Hyundai MAtrix nantinya...

Harga memang denger2 under Grand Livina termurah, itu berarti sekitar Rp 120-130 jutaan seperti kata Bro Mike..tapi dengan harga segitu mau kasih fitur apa? Setara sama Grand Livina 1.5 yg electric mirror aja ga ada? Mungkin memang harga bisa under Honda Jazz, tapi fitur juga pasti under Jazz..
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