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mau nanya neh........mudah2an ada yang tau....
kenapa seh, kalo mobil nissan kasta tertinggi yang sudah dilengkapi jok kulit, biasanya door trimnya ga di lapis kulit juga?(yang dilapis kulit benar2 cuma jok doang) yang parah malah doortrim cuma dari plastik doang(x-trail xt & teana)
kalo serena hws, door trimnya malah pake fabric yang motifnya sama seperti serena ct.....
yang agak mending cuma di terrano kingsroad&frontier yang door trimnya juga dilapis kulit......tapi terrano itu khan udah bukan senjata utama nissan, udah mau expired.....

waktu g pake x-trail xt,doortrim ini kerasa banget ganjil.....banyak mengurangi kesan mewah yang udah di sajikan.....

menurut kalian, kira2 kenapa nissan ambil keputusan gitu yah?(terutama g tanya mr sith)hehehehe
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I really don't know ! Cause I am NOT an NMI man !

Agak tanggung memang ! Door trim saya juga inggin saya ganti kulit, tapi malas terus. Toh bagian itu jarang kepakai.

Mungkin NMI pikir itu bagian minor, so not worth the trouble. Tanya orang ganti gituan cuma 200,000 per side. So its not much money, tapi may be a bit troublesome for cars yang mass produced, ngak seperti mobil super mewah yang handmade.
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?!?!?!? Lord, terus gimana menurut anda dengan SEABREK2 mobil lain di indo yang bukan Handmade tapi doortrimnya dilapisin kulit semua !?!?!?!? Hehehe Innova 2.7 kayaknya juga pake tuj :)
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Simple ! Beli saja innova 2.7 ! Gitu saja kok repot repot...(Suara Gus Dur)
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menghemat ongkos kali.
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Post by ween »

lord,di serena hws, yang pake door trim fabric itu cuma di pintu depan?yang pintu tengah dan hand rest blakang malah pake plastik yah?buat g, rasanya jadi ga serasi.....terasa aneh....
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bayang kan dari yang harus nya kulit ato fabric di jadikan plastik aja berapa besar penghematan yang telah di lakukan
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iya nih Lord Nissan. TOlong donk bilangin Spydroid mu di NMI Suruh ngejaitiin doortrimnya cuma2 :)
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FYI, c24 di Jepang juga pintunya tidak ada trim. Its all plastic.

Saya inggat majalah mana yang bilang (kayaknya Autobild), mobil dengan segitu banyak kenyamanan dan fasilitas, kok harganya murah, ngak sampai 300 juta ?

Jawabnya jelas, interior materialnya jelas ngak bisa terlalu mewah ! Kalau interiornya juga banyak pernik pernik mewah, apakah harganya masih bisa di bawa 300 juta.

Find me a car dengan fasilitas dan keamanan Serena HWS yang harganya tidak lebih dari 300 juta. Find me just one ! In case U forgot the HWS already gives U :

Electric door, rear view camera, TV/DVD/MP3/CD player, foglamp, ABS/EBD/BA, 2 airbags, jog kulit, rear spoiler, what else do I miss ?

Even the Grandis yang harganya bagus, fasilitas dia juga masih di bawa c24.

So U want all those and still luxury trims on the doors and more ? Well, we can't have it all !

Anyway, for me, interior cream muda sudah ceria dan kesan lux. A bit of leather trim beside the doors does not bother me. Toh mobil itu saya beli utamanya untuk menikmati fasilitas dan versatilitynya. Mau lebih mewah, anda harus lari ke Viano, Alphard, Caravelle etc.

Itupun lihat fasilitas mereka. Dengan harga double, apalagi Viano yang 1 milliar, fasilitas mereka juga tidak beda jauh ama c24. Paling beda cabin space saja yang lebih besar dan luas.
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ween wrote:lord,di serena hws, yang pake door trim fabric itu cuma di pintu depan?yang pintu tengah dan hand rest blakang malah pake plastik yah?buat g, rasanya jadi ga serasi.....terasa aneh....
Ya, ini memang kekurangan C24. Mungkin karena design-nya kan design tahun 1999 di mana minivan belum dirancang semewah sekarang, karena dulu minivan sifatnya lebih fungsional.. (zaman pre Alphard)..
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OK my young Jedi. Kalau c25 gimana ? Saya kurang perhatiin. Apakah lebih mewah dan lebih banyak pernak pernik ?

Maybe U got some close up photos ?

Well, if the AUV turns out to be a dud, paling tunggu c25. Simple. Mesin kencang, irit (37% lebih irit banding c24), ada Elgrand-like magic 2nd row middle section, etc. Its my perfect minivan for the new century !

And hey ! Pasti sudah di cat dengan clear coat " Terminator 2 " itu !
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U get what u pay for.
Kalau ngak siapa yang mau beli Viano, Alphard, Caravelle,Elgrand, etc.
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Post by conan »

Baca2 saja lagi di thread C25, Dark Lord. Tapi kalau tidak salah bahkan C25 juga tidak ada door trim ini. Malah, kalau tidak salah new Stepwagon juga tidak ada. Mr. Ween, Anda tentu lebih tahu? Stepwagon yang Anda lihat apakah ada door trim ini?
Kalau tidak ada, karena sebenarnya Serena/Stepwagon termasuk minivan fungsional dan bukan luxury people carrier seperti Alphard/Elgrand.
sithlord wrote:And hey ! Pasti sudah di cat dengan clear coat " Terminator 2 " itu !
Sudah pasti belum, Dark Lord.
Cat baru ini kan tidak murah, kalaupun akan dipakai pada produk massal, tentu produk hi-end dulu seperti top end Infiniti models. Mungkin juga sebagai optional paint job, karena di negara2 lain banyak juga yg tidak memberikan metallic paint sebagai stock tapi optional (add more money).
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Well, then we will have to wait and see SUV facelift model mana yang akan pakai cat itu.

Jika nanti ternyata SUV facelift itu bukan model mewah, dan harganya mirip ama yang dulu, BINGGO ! Artinya cat itu ternyata tidak akan robek kantong !

Sometimes bung Conan, a new invention may, or may NOT be more expensive. It all depends on human ingeniuity. Look at handphones. Kok makin canggih, bisa ada HP, camera, etc, kok harganya masih terjangkau ?

Perhaps this new facelifted SUV coming out yang kata Nissan akan jadi model pertama yang pakai cat baru itu can be yr new spy job. Apakah anda sudah ada jadwalnya, SUV mana ? New X-Trail yang anda pernah ketemu website yang scheduled for facelift May 2006 ?

Siapa calon SUV facelift paling logical ? Murano masih baru. Ngak mungkin. Terus apakah Patrol ? Maybe. But I think it just maybe the facelifted X-Trail.

Maybe U got more accurate info ?

Anyway, back to topic. Saya jarang juga perhatiin dan sentuh bagian itu. Toh plastic juga ada bagusnya. Bersihkannya gampang. Tinggal di lap saja.

Remember, c24/c25/Stepwagon are utility vans. Not luxury vans. U buy them for daily use.
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Post by ween »

soal cat keren itu, kayanya entar dulu deh....
di teana yang di posisikan luxury mid size sedan aja, masih pake doortrim plastik....ini kelemahan yang keliatan bgt.......kalo di camry & accord, udah pake kulit di doortrimnya.....lebih mewah.....teman2 setuju ga? bahwa door trim lumayan mempengaruhi dalam menunjukan kesan nyaman dan mewah....
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ween wrote:teman2 setuju ga? bahwa door trim lumayan mempengaruhi dalam menunjukan kesan nyaman dan mewah....
Setuju sekali!
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Sithlord wrote:
Sometimes bung Conan, a new invention may, or may NOT be more expensive. It all depends on human ingeniuity. Look at handphones. Kok makin canggih, bisa ada HP, camera, etc, kok harganya masih terjangkau ?
Seperti biasa, Anda MENDUA kalau tentang Nissan!

INGAT2 kata2 Anda sendiri di atas kalau berbicara lagi tentang HYBRID, Pak!!

Anda lihat informecial Toyota tentang hybrid di Kompas, setiap kali 2 halaman penuh? It makes me happy, more and more REBELS to you!
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Yah ! Saya mau lihat nanti hybrid itu apakah cuman iklan saja atau mereka mau jual di sini ?

Jangan lupa. Pikir saja, Toyota Ist CBU 1800 cc sekitar 220 juta. Toyota Prius yang juga ccnya ngak sampai 2000 cc harga OTRnya 400+ juta !

Dan size, bodi 2 mobil ini sama sama compact. Ngak terlalu besar.

So these 2 cars have the same CBU tax. The hybrid will cost U more, double !

So I want to see nanti Toyota Astra mau jual berapa duit, jika jadi, meskipun ngak lama lalu Pak Johny Darmawan sendiri sudah bilang, Indonesia is NOT ready for hybrid cars yet.

Maybe what he means is without government help, Toyota just cannot sell to Indonesia hybrids at a price that makes sense !

Once again, this hybrid thing is tiring, but since U brought it up, I want to see when this hybrid car will be available to us at a mature price (meaning, harga masuk akal).

FYI, the last time the CBU showroom called me, I am still the pioneer jika saya SPK ! Artinya Nobody is interested in this 400+ mini hybrid yet.

Kecuali SBY turun tangan dan kasih incentive. Lets see shall we ?

I won't mind of course if due to SBY's generosity I can buy a hybrid at say 200+ juta. Itupun saya akan check dulu harga sparepartnya, harga batterynya, harga servicenya apakah mahal atau tidak.
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Anda salah persepsi lagi! TAM belum ada niat jual hybrid! Dan jika suatu hari mereka siap, maksudnya bukan Prius! Tapi :

Camry hybrid
Alphard hybrid
Estima hybrid
Corolla hybrid
Lexus RX Hybrid
Lexus GS Hybrid
Lexus LS Hybrid

Lineup Toyota akhirnya semuanya akan tersedia versi hybridnya!

Prius itu model pioneer untuk menguji teknologi baru yang selanjutnya akan dibuat massal Pak!

Toyota mulai mengedukasi masyarakat untuk memahami bahwa Hybrid is the future, and that a hybrid is not the same as a 100% electric car that needs to be plugged in.

You drive an Alphard hybrid like you drive a normal Alphard! But with much, much lower fuel consumption!
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Actually asal economicsnya masuk akal, I have nothing against hybrids. FYI, one of my golf clubs is a hybrid (iron wood they call it)

Since U are so excited abt hybrids, let me pull a prank on U.

Jika anda belum berkeluarga, U should find a hybrid partner ! Di jamin exciting ! Some of those I have seen from Thailand are truly beautiful ! U won't believe they are hybrids !

Haha !
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Post by handling »

bos ween, itu sih bukan produk nissan aja, semua juga sama melakukan hal yang sama dgn doortrim, tujuannya memang mentok di biaya.
kalo produk lama memang masih bagus kualitas doortrimnya, contohnya ya kayak terrano, dan coba liat doortrim starlet, bandngkan kualitasnya dgn vios sekarang.
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conan wrote:Anda salah persepsi lagi! TAM belum ada niat jual hybrid! Dan jika suatu hari mereka siap, maksudnya bukan Prius! Tapi :

Camry hybrid
Alphard hybrid
Estima hybrid
Corolla hybrid
Lexus RX Hybrid
Lexus GS Hybrid
Lexus LS Hybrid

Lineup Toyota akhirnya semuanya akan tersedia versi hybridnya!

Prius itu model pioneer untuk menguji teknologi baru yang selanjutnya akan dibuat massal Pak!

Toyota mulai mengedukasi masyarakat untuk memahami bahwa Hybrid is the future, and that a hybrid is not the same as a 100% electric car that needs to be plugged in.

You drive an Alphard hybrid like you drive a normal Alphard! But with much, much lower fuel consumption!
lagi bayangin innova ama avanza nanti ada hybrid nya ngak yah hehehehehehe
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handling wrote:bos ween, itu sih bukan produk nissan aja, semua juga sama melakukan hal yang sama dgn doortrim, tujuannya memang mentok di biaya.
kalo produk lama memang masih bagus kualitas doortrimnya, contohnya ya kayak terrano, dan coba liat doortrim starlet, bandngkan kualitasnya dgn vios sekarang.
Vios sekarang aja masih pakai plastik keras yg keliatan murah (dan memang beneran murah), bandingin sama Starlet memang bagusan Starlet...

Tapi menurut saya, punya Soluna leebih parah...
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tentang mobil hybrid gue setuju dgn sithlord,
mesin hybrid memang lebih irit konsumsi bbmnya dibanding mobil konvensional.
tapi harganya jauh lebih mahal.
kalo yg jadi high point cuma faktor ekonomisnya, biaya operasional mobil hybrid akan terasa lebih hemat dibandingkan mobil biasa setelah pemakaian dalam jangka waktu yg (sangat) panjang.
itupun kalo pemiliknya ga keburu beli mobil lain..

gue sih get real aja,
ini hitungan kasar lho yah..
kalopun gue ada duit 400jt sekarang, gue pasti akan milih toyota altis m/t (276jt) dibanding prius.
dgn selisih harga 124jt gue bisa beli pertamax (rp 5500/l) sebanyak 22.545 liter.
dengan konsumsi altis yang 1:10 rata2 dalam kota, dengan pertamax sebanyak itu gue bisa menempuh 225.450km, which means over 15yrs of my daily home-office-home drive!

itu baru perbandingan dgn prius, gimana dgn alphard hybrid & lexus hybrid yg pasti akan jaoooooooh lebih mahal harganya..

lain halnya kalo faktor ekologi yg jadi fokus.
dan peraturan2 pemerintah juga memihak pada mobil2 yg ramah lingkungan, supaya mobil hybrid lebih terjangkau harganya jadi semakin banyak orang beli mobil hybrid.
otomatis tingkat polusi udara dapat ditekan.
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kalo pemerintah mau subsidi pajak buat hybird sih pasti bisa lebih murah pajak 0% untuk lingkungan sehat.tapi itu mungkin bagi negara kaya

kalo kayak di indo apa nya yang mau di subsidi,wong kalo bisa malah rakyat nya di pajak in setinggi tinggi nya.