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OFFICIAL: the sale of new petrol and diesel engined cars will be banned in the UK by 2030 – hybrids allowed until 2035

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Prime Minister Boris Johnson has confirmed that the UK government is bringing forward its ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel-engined cars and vans from 2040 until 2030 – although some hybrids will be allowed until 2035.

The widely anticipated move was confirmed by Prime Minister Boris Johnson in a column he wrote for the Financial Times. The ban is part of a 10-point plan set out by the Prime Minister to make the UK carbon neutral by 2050.

Johnson wrote that the government will "invest more than £2.8 billion in electric vehicles, lacing the land with charging points and creating long-lasting batteries in UK gigafactories. This will allow us to end the sale of new petrol and diesel cars and vans in 2030."

While that date is a full decade ahead of the initial 2040 date the government planned to ban sales of new combustion engined vehicles by, the government will allow certain hybrid cars and vans "that can drive a significant distance when no carbon coming out of the tailpipe" to be sold until 2035. While there is no clarification on what constitutes a “significant distance” yet, it is likely the regulations will allow plug-in hybrid cars, but not hybrid powertrains.

The £2.8 billion funding is likely to be split between spending on developing both public and private charging infrastructure, and through continuing the grants offered to buyers of zero or ultra-low emission vehicles.

A total of 75,946 new full electric cars have been sold in the UK so far in 2020, accounting for 5.5% of the total of 1,384,601. However, that represents a 168.7% year-on-year increase, with the market expanding rapidly as manufacturers are rapidly rolling out new EVs.

Given the likely growth, several manufacturers have already committed to ending pure combustion engines sales before 2030. Bentley recently announced that it would only sell full electric cars from 2030 onwards, while Volvo is committed to only offering electric or plug-in hybrid models from 2025 onwards.

Indonesia kapan menyusul :) Sepertinya klo banyak negara ikutin kebijakan UK. Banyak perusahaan minyak siap2 banting setir., dan masa depan Tesla tambah cerah aja neh :big_grin:
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lagi ngebayangin pas lagi perang semua kendaraan ud listrik tiba2x di serang musuh mau kabur baternya masih pada low / proses charging atau ambulance lagi hetic2xnya tiba2x low batt tapi masih banyak pasien yang di jemput???
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indonesia kapan........hmmmmm kapan kapan deh

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b0ku wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:42 lagi ngebayangin pas lagi perang semua kendaraan ud listrik tiba2x di serang musuh mau kabur baternya masih pada low / proses charging atau ambulance lagi hetic2xnya tiba2x low batt tapi masih banyak pasien yang di jemput???
Gw rasa sih di tahun segitu either teknologi fast charging dibawah 30 menit atau batre dgn material yg long lasting macem ultium udh mainstream kali ya?
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UK dan europ sih wajar mereka sdh punya infrastrukturnya dari jaman dahulu kala...

itupun jg masih mundur mundur terus... dulu katanya 2025 skrg 2030... tp paling mundur lagi...

tidak yakin bisa totally ban 100% diesel dan gas. car shows will get boring... smentara salah satu car show yang mendunia jurnalisnya dari UK... lol.
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demonicorchestra wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:51
b0ku wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:42 lagi ngebayangin pas lagi perang semua kendaraan ud listrik tiba2x di serang musuh mau kabur baternya masih pada low / proses charging atau ambulance lagi hetic2xnya tiba2x low batt tapi masih banyak pasien yang di jemput???
Gw rasa sih di tahun segitu either teknologi fast charging dibawah 30 menit atau batre dgn material yg long lasting macem ultium udh mainstream kali ya?
30 menit pun gak efisien bro, harus 5 menit ud masuk 30-50% daya makannya gw suka bilang teknologinya akan relevant kalo ukuran batrenya ud max segede AKI dimana gak usah charging dulu tapi punya cadangan jd tinggal swap cabut pasang dulu kek hp jaman dulu, kalo ud darurat mah repot apalagi ada bencana alam dimana power grid lumpuh mati lah, ud musti bener2x di pikirin saya rasa harusnya biarin aja market yg ngomong ICE tetep ada EV juga ada jd kayak opsi diesel atau bensin lama2x juga banyakan EV tapi orang akan beli petrol untuk jelajah jarak jauh
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ChZ wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:05 UK dan europ sih wajar mereka sdh punya infrastrukturnya dari jaman dahulu kala...

itupun jg masih mundur mundur terus... dulu katanya 2025 skrg 2030... tp paling mundur lagi...

tidak yakin bisa totally ban 100% diesel dan gas. car shows will get boring... smentara salah satu car show yang mendunia jurnalisnya dari UK... lol.
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programnya cukup make sense sih, masih ada waktu 10 tahun lagi dan pastinya teknologi EV juga udah lebih maju.
program ini hanya melarang pada sisi penjualan mobil bensin dan diesel baru, artinya mobil yg udah beredar dipasaran tidak diban.
Mencari referensi info mobil bekas yang akurat dan terpercaya
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hmm... cars and vans..
trucks and lain lain belum...
london bus ud full electric blum ya?
1.4m cars penjualan... banyak jg... pdhl 2020 blm berakhir
skemanya lgsg dilarang di 2030? menuju 2030 ada skema pengurangan bertahap ga ya?
sori jd nanya... jd pgn tau banyak soal ini....

jd pgn tau nanti gmn kebijakan US, khususnya Biden kalo kepilih nanti...
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Poporing wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:15 hmm... cars and vans..
trucks and lain lain belum...
london bus ud full electric blum ya?
1.4m cars penjualan... banyak jg... pdhl 2020 blm berakhir
skemanya lgsg dilarang di 2030? menuju 2030 ada skema pengurangan bertahap ga ya?
sori jd nanya... jd pgn tau banyak soal ini....

jd pgn tau nanti gmn kebijakan US, khususnya Biden kalo kepilih nanti...
Kl di jerman, kaya di ludwigsburg sebagian udah electric om bisnya. Cm kedengeran extra fan di belakang yg kenceng banget. Merk VDL bus itu, di airport abu dhabi juga udah listrik dg coachbuilder VDL. Di bandara china jg udah mulai pake bis EV
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erwinign wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:29
Kl di jerman, kaya di ludwigsburg sebagian udah electric om bisnya. Cm kedengeran extra fan di belakang yg kenceng banget. Merk VDL bus itu, di airport abu dhabi juga udah listrik dg coachbuilder VDL. Di bandara china jg udah mulai pake bis EV
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Kira2 mobil biasa bisa di-swap ke elektrik/batre ga ya? Seru jg kyknya pake mercy lis becak atau civic nouva tapi udah eletrik
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Harchi wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 14:05 Kira2 mobil biasa bisa di-swap ke elektrik/batre ga ya? Seru jg kyknya pake mercy lis becak atau civic nouva tapi udah eletrik
Kalau sekedar bisa sih bisa om. Tapi masalahnya kan di sini mau sekedar ganti mesin dengan yang baru aja susah (apalagi mesin bekas) padahal tipe mesin sama, gimana mau diijinin swap ke jenis mesin yang sama sekali beda (elektrik).
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wah ga sampai 20 taun lagi mobil2 yg skrg kita lihat di jalanan akan terlihat spt kita melihat ford model T dan sebangsanya.
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b0ku wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:25
30 menit pun gak efisien bro, harus 5 menit ud masuk 30-50% daya makannya gw suka bilang teknologinya akan relevant kalo ukuran batrenya ud max segede AKI dimana gak usah charging dulu tapi punya cadangan jd tinggal swap cabut pasang dulu kek hp jaman dulu, kalo ud darurat mah repot apalagi ada bencana alam dimana power grid lumpuh mati lah, ud musti bener2x di pikirin saya rasa harusnya biarin aja market yg ngomong ICE tetep ada EV juga ada jd kayak opsi diesel atau bensin lama2x juga banyakan EV tapi orang akan beli petrol untuk jelajah jarak jauh
prediksi gw nanti bakalnya juga gini...

tidak full convert ke EV, hanya sebagian lini produk akan beralih ke EV dan populasi EV makin banyak. yah macem sedan dong, biarpun dibilang obsolete orang lari ke crossover atau wagon tetep pabrikan jual sedan dan coupe :upss: lha itu batu makam jual 400Z mesin bensin V6 manual... next civic type R juga msh akan manual bensin :upss:

gimana gimana harus diakui bbm itu sumber energi paling gampang dibawa kemana-mana... dan mobil listrik sendiri bukan solusi satu satunya utk clean energy (still a long long debate ttg energy source dan where you live) :upss: pabrikan tidak give up hanya satu-satunya ke listrik. hanya skrg kan hype nya lagi naik aja

buat long range efisiensi minyak dan listrik tidak jauh beda apalagi listrik itu beda cuaca sudah beda performa drastis... kalau untuk perkotaan okelah mobil listrik... efisien penggunaan energi.

lagian apa gak boring... mobil cuma wazz wuzz wazz wuzz tanpa ada suaranya...

tar ngeluh... road nois... wind nois... mobil bensin ma enak kencengin audio ama lari kenceng hi rev dengerin suara mesin masih enak... adrenalin rush... jangan lah kalo mobil sport jadi listrik, F1 mesin jadi turbo aja pada treak treak fansnya apalagi jd listrik... bosen.
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Ahh beginian mahh masi jauh dari pelupuk mata kl buat +62

Boro2 EV

Hybrid aj masi d luar angkasa angan2

Bensin euro 4 aj susah nya minta ampun, bebelit infrastruktur yg ga selsai2 tu kilang, ampe jd bahan politik

Jd yah, berbahagialah kita2 petrolhead endonesia yg masi doyan ICE, mungkin ampe ganti 2 generasi kl baru bener2 ngerasain full EV
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 15:03 Ahh beginian mahh masi jauh dari pelupuk mata kl buat +62

Boro2 EV

Hybrid aj masi d luar angkasa angan2

Bensin euro 4 aj susah nya minta ampun, bebelit infrastruktur yg ga selsai2 tu kilang, ampe jd bahan politik

Jd yah, berbahagialah kita2 petrolhead endonesia yg masi doyan ICE, mungkin ampe ganti 2 generasi kl baru bener2 ngerasain full EV
mau sehebat apapun listrik....

adalah fakta kalo miara sebuah elcegece atau minibus peminum solar tetap lebih hemat... selama solar goceng dan pertalit masih ada.

dan listrik rumah masih byarpet ngga punya genset... mau kerja besok, mobil low batt, lampu matek semaleman. ngidupin genset yang mimiknya solar buat ngecas...

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ChZ wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 15:09
DOHC wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 15:03 Ahh beginian mahh masi jauh dari pelupuk mata kl buat +62

Boro2 EV

Hybrid aj masi d luar angkasa angan2

Bensin euro 4 aj susah nya minta ampun, bebelit infrastruktur yg ga selsai2 tu kilang, ampe jd bahan politik

Jd yah, berbahagialah kita2 petrolhead endonesia yg masi doyan ICE, mungkin ampe ganti 2 generasi kl baru bener2 ngerasain full EV
khan emang hebat om...

kopet 19 ga beres ngurusin uda ngomong vaksin...

euro 2 aja boro boro tembus uda ngomong listrik... slama ngisinya masih pada pertalit ma solbus mahh euro 2 jg kaga tembus :big_biglaugh:

:big_weee:
Kl euro 2 sehh saya rasa harusnya ud tembus mods, scara itu jg standard baehula... negeri bollywod and rapist aj ud lama ninggalin tu standard, padahal doi negara berkembang jg loh.. malon ama singapur jgn tanya, ud dr jaman kapan

Makanya saya stuju sehh premium ama pertalit di hapus.. kampungan koq dipliara terus... harus modernisasi donk
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DOHC wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 15:14
Kl euro 2 sehh saya rasa harusnya ud tembus mods, scara itu jg standard baehula... negeri bollywod and rapist aj ud lama ninggalin tu standard, padahal doi negara berkembang jg loh.. malon ama singapur jgn tanya, ud dr jaman kapan

Makanya saya stuju sehh premium ama pertalit di hapus.. kampungan koq dipliara terus... harus modernisasi donk
nganu mbah... kalo mobil yang dijual sehh uda euro 2 ke atas semua. euro 4 malah.

tp 2KD 2GD yang pada ngisi solar busuk koq ga yakin tembus euro 2... :ungg: scr bbm euro 2 di mari kan cuma dex.
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Yang jelas pemilik mesin diesel di Indonesia masih bakalan panjang umur...
Tuh kebon sawit di Sumatera ama Kalimantan, tambah terus luasnya wkwkwk
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ChZ wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 14:58
b0ku wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:25
30 menit pun gak efisien bro, harus 5 menit ud masuk 30-50% daya makannya gw suka bilang teknologinya akan relevant kalo ukuran batrenya ud max segede AKI dimana gak usah charging dulu tapi punya cadangan jd tinggal swap cabut pasang dulu kek hp jaman dulu, kalo ud darurat mah repot apalagi ada bencana alam dimana power grid lumpuh mati lah, ud musti bener2x di pikirin saya rasa harusnya biarin aja market yg ngomong ICE tetep ada EV juga ada jd kayak opsi diesel atau bensin lama2x juga banyakan EV tapi orang akan beli petrol untuk jelajah jarak jauh
prediksi gw nanti bakalnya juga gini...

tidak full convert ke EV, hanya sebagian lini produk akan beralih ke EV dan populasi EV makin banyak. yah macem sedan dong, biarpun dibilang obsolete orang lari ke crossover atau wagon tetep pabrikan jual sedan dan coupe :upss: lha itu batu makam jual 400Z mesin bensin V6 manual... next civic type R juga msh akan manual bensin :upss:

gimana gimana harus diakui bbm itu sumber energi paling gampang dibawa kemana-mana... dan mobil listrik sendiri bukan solusi satu satunya utk clean energy (still a long long debate ttg energy source dan where you live) :upss: pabrikan tidak give up hanya satu-satunya ke listrik. hanya skrg kan hype nya lagi naik aja

buat long range efisiensi minyak dan listrik tidak jauh beda apalagi listrik itu beda cuaca sudah beda performa drastis... kalau untuk perkotaan okelah mobil listrik... efisien penggunaan energi.

lagian apa gak boring... mobil cuma wazz wuzz wazz wuzz tanpa ada suaranya...

tar ngeluh... road nois... wind nois... mobil bensin ma enak kencengin audio ama lari kenceng hi rev dengerin suara mesin masih enak... adrenalin rush... jangan lah kalo mobil sport jadi listrik, F1 mesin jadi turbo aja pada treak treak fansnya apalagi jd listrik... bosen.
Tiap hari pantengin disco history , nat geo isinya sama semua mobil ud mampus di restorasi pake mesin V8 dijual kayak mobil baru dan harganya fantastis kalo mereka ud masuk lelang 🤣🤣 gimane mau punah 🤣🤣

porsche pun katanya mau pertahanin ice di 911 selama mungkin malah mau coba pake fuel jenis baru
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sapi12 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 15:20 Yang jelas pemilik mesin diesel di Indonesia masih bakalan panjang umur...
Tuh kebon sawit di Sumatera ama Kalimantan, tambah terus luasnya wkwkwk
kemaren ga sengaja liat pidio greenpeace indo, katanya ada perkebunan sawit diem2 di papua... seluas Seoul
and guess what, katanya yg punya lahan itu adalah perusahaan kroya...

*please note: saya kadang menilai greenpeace lebay, tp disini cm mau share bahwa sawit masi tumbuh di Indonesia tercinta
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b0ku wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 15:38

Tiap hari pantengin disco history , nat geo isinya sama semua mobil ud mampus di restorasi pake mesin V8 dijual kayak mobil baru dan harganya fantastis kalo mereka ud masuk lelang 🤣🤣 gimane mau punah 🤣🤣

porsche pun katanya mau pertahanin ice di 911 selama mungkin malah mau coba pake fuel jenis baru
yang ironis...

nickel mining buat batre EV pake diesel truck 24 cylinders dan double cabin diesel... kendaraan tambang mesin diesel gede gede semua tuh.
shipment bahan pake kapal bahan bakar diesel dan pesawat yang bakar jet fuel berton-ton per jam...

bilang gasoline kotor tapi sehari-hari bergantung ama kendaraan gasoline, bahkan buat rakit EV sendiri butuh gasoline sangat banyak :upss: ibarat bilang kuli jorok tapi sehari-hari kekayaannya hasil mempekerjakan kuli dan buruh kasar :big_weee:

btw di carthrottle kolom komennya jg pada nyinyirin... :big_biglaugh:

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/uk-wil ... s-to-2030/
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DOHC wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 15:14
ChZ wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 15:09
DOHC wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 15:03 Ahh beginian mahh masi jauh dari pelupuk mata kl buat +62

Boro2 EV

Hybrid aj masi d luar angkasa angan2

Bensin euro 4 aj susah nya minta ampun, bebelit infrastruktur yg ga selsai2 tu kilang, ampe jd bahan politik

Jd yah, berbahagialah kita2 petrolhead endonesia yg masi doyan ICE, mungkin ampe ganti 2 generasi kl baru bener2 ngerasain full EV
khan emang hebat om...

kopet 19 ga beres ngurusin uda ngomong vaksin...

euro 2 aja boro boro tembus uda ngomong listrik... slama ngisinya masih pada pertalit ma solbus mahh euro 2 jg kaga tembus :big_biglaugh:

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Kl euro 2 sehh saya rasa harusnya ud tembus mods, scara itu jg standard baehula... negeri bollywod and rapist aj ud lama ninggalin tu standard, padahal doi negara berkembang jg loh.. malon ama singapur jgn tanya, ud dr jaman kapan

Makanya saya stuju sehh premium ama pertalit di hapus.. kampungan koq dipliara terus... harus modernisasi donk
Hasil dari comply Euro 2 itu Catalytic Converter, barang laknat yang sukses bikin jazz suara peresan tebu (katanya)
Itu Catalytic Conventer di copot langsung brum brumm, auto resing. Persetan dengan go green, selama uji emisi masih wacana bolak-balik setidaknya masih aman hehehe.