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Ijinkan member bertanya kepada para sesepuh sm karena penasaran saja. Banyak member di sm yg menyarankan innova d4d tapi jarang yg menyarankan fortuner d4d kenapa ya? Terima kasih

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Fortuner lebih mahal dari pada innova.... Hahhaah

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Ini maksudnya innova d4d vs fortuner d4d (non vnt) kah?

Kalo iya, alasannya menurut nubie :
1. Harga cenderung lebih tinggi drpd innova taon sama (harga pas barunya jg beda jauh sih)
2. Bobot lebih berat, tp dihela dgn mesin yg sama tanpa penambahan output.... Bisa dibayangkan sendiri boyonya :mky_01:
3. Kabin lebih sempit (ini murni pendapat nubie)

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kalau mau suv ya fortuner, kalau mau mpv ya innova
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Seperti mau eskrim magnum clasik apa magnum almond... tinggal mana yg selera
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simple, karena innova D4D ndak ada lawan head to headnya... even mau dicompare sama serena/biante/delica juga nggak apple to apple karena mereka MPV boxy & mesin bensin semua. kecuali Mitsubishi kesambet ngeluarin MPV based on Pajero Sport pake mesin 4N15 :big_love:
kalo fortuner D4D banyak lawannya, terutama PS Dakar & Mu-X, belom lagi SUV monokok 7-seater macem captiva & CR-V Turbo
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Lha ngapain beli fortie...

Basicnya sama... hrg beda.. klo cm bth moda transport yg lbh enak (dan lbh mending dikit imejnya) dr avxen, innova cukup kan...

Scr dimensi lbh gede, tp ruang kabin hmpr sama...

Pajak kena jeep... itu lbh mahal drpd pajak minibus..

Ada jg yg bilang (g prnh naik fortie aku) naikannya fortie tipikal suv, keras (klo tmen sy bilangnya kyk naik truk)

Lain crita klo sering blusukan offroad trus prlu mbl yg g bikin abis antimo satu dus...
Ato mmg pingin innova suv...
Ato butuh imej gagah (?)
Ato pingin mesin 2.7.. (cri ipah 2.7 agak susah... dan udh agak tua jg... krn cm ada di 2005)
Ato pingin vnt (ipah vnt dr tyt ga prnah ada kan)
Ato just because.
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Lhaaa skrg kalau kondisi :
- cuma pake dalem kota ama keluarga, ga pernah main tanah, sehari hari cm rumah toko atw rumah kantor
- mobil perang sehari2
- mobilitas lbh penting daripada image

Why spend more on Fortuner? Hahahaha... Memang tagline kijang tiada duanya ya bener... Mbl serbaguna.

Lagian fortuner banyak bersinggungan dgn suv seharga dari pajero mux tb sampe crv cx5 xtrail harganya mepet mepet. Sementara kijang g ada saingan sebanding...

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Fortuner aja. Remnya yahud,... :ngacir:
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Lawannya ipah cuma Panthrrrr yang...
Yahh begitulah...

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........ :ngacir:
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coklatMetalik wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:29 Lawannya ipah cuma Panthrrrr yang...
Yahh begitulah...

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........ :ngacir:
Lho panther itu mobil bagus sekali oom..

Sampe2 kalo kita beli mobil isusu (selain truk) pasti dibilangnya "ko beli penter baru yah"

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psiturism wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 14:55
coklatMetalik wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:29 Lawannya ipah cuma Panthrrrr yang...
Yahh begitulah...

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........ :ngacir:
Lho panther itu mobil bagus sekali oom..

Sampe2 kalo kita beli mobil isusu (selain truk) pasti dibilangnya "ko beli penter baru yah"

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Menurut saya,orang lebih milih innova D4D karena:
- Dimensi ga segede fortuner
- Lebih murah daripada fortuner
- Mesin & transmisi ga jauh beda sama fortuner
- Sama2 7 seater
- Ga punya lawan sepadan dikelasnya (sebenernya sih ada , yaitu panther, yang udah 15 tahun ga ganti model :big_slap: )
- Kabin innova (terutama row 3) lebih lega daripada fortuner
- Kalo ga kepengen gagah & macho, orang lebih pilih innova sebagai mobil perang (orang sama2 basisnya hilux kok, cuma beda ukuran doang hehehe)
- Lemot kaya siput (terutama yang non VNT), bayangin aja mesin & transmisi yang di Innova aja udah lemot dikasih ke bodi segede fortuner kaya gimana jadinya :big_slap: , kalo yang VNT gatau deh kaya gimana peformanya.
- Harga fortuner bersinggungan dengan lawan dikelasnya (TB , MUX & pajero sport) + SUV monokok kaya Xtrail , CRV & CX5
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coklatMetalik wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:29 Lawannya ipah cuma Panthrrrr yang...
Yahh begitulah...

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........ :ngacir:
- 15 tahun ga ganti model
- berisik
- lemot
- limbung
- mesin , transmisi & teknologi yang dari 15 tahun lalu ga berubah
- harga udah 300jt tapi fitur safetynya kalah sama LCGC

Kaboerrrrrrrr , sebelum ditimpuk bata sama antek & penboi ihsusuk dimari :ngacir: :ngacir:
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'17 Xpander
'19 Yaris
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'18 ANF 2GD
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'18 ANKI 2GD
'19 CRV
'14 GNKI 1TR
'22 brio
'18 RX300
'18 ANPS
Now:
'23 voxy
'23 BRV
'23 HRV
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ChZ wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 15:32
psiturism wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 14:55
coklatMetalik wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:29 Lawannya ipah cuma Panthrrrr yang...
Yahh begitulah...

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........ :ngacir:
Lho panther itu mobil bagus sekali oom..

Sampe2 kalo kita beli mobil isusu (selain truk) pasti dibilangnya "ko beli penter baru yah"

:big_biglaugh:
Semua mobil ihsusuk... punya fitur khusus yang tdk ada d mobil lain.. namanya longevity...
di hoyoha udh gk ada ya?
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coklatMetalik wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:42
ChZ wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 15:32
psiturism wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 14:55

Lho panther itu mobil bagus sekali oom..

Sampe2 kalo kita beli mobil isusu (selain truk) pasti dibilangnya "ko beli penter baru yah"

:big_biglaugh:
Semua mobil ihsusuk... punya fitur khusus yang tdk ada d mobil lain.. namanya longevity...
di hoyoha udh gk ada ya?
skrg di hoyoha pny fitur putu jedug dan overheat... :ngacir:
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ChZ wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 15:32
psiturism wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 14:55
coklatMetalik wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:29 Lawannya ipah cuma Panthrrrr yang...
Yahh begitulah...

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........ :ngacir:
Lho panther itu mobil bagus sekali oom..

Sampe2 kalo kita beli mobil isusu (selain truk) pasti dibilangnya "ko beli penter baru yah"

:big_biglaugh:
Semua mobil ihsusuk... punya fitur khusus yang tdk ada d mobil lain.. namanya longevity...

Longevity itu fitur apa sih? Dan siapa penemunya?
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ChZ wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:09
coklatMetalik wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:42
ChZ wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 15:32

Semua mobil ihsusuk... punya fitur khusus yang tdk ada d mobil lain.. namanya longevity...
di hoyoha udh gk ada ya?
skrg di hoyoha pny fitur putu jedug dan overheat... :ngacir:
Tp yg fitur paling penting di hoyoha adalah....
Overprice :ngacir:
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Pboyz97 wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:47
coklatMetalik wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:29 Lawannya ipah cuma Panthrrrr yang...
Yahh begitulah...

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........ :ngacir:
- 15 tahun ga ganti model
- berisik
- lemot
- limbung
- mesin , transmisi & teknologi yang dari 15 tahun lalu ga berubah
- harga udah 300jt tapi fitur safetynya kalah sama LCGC

Kaboerrrrrrrr , sebelum ditimpuk bata sama antek & penboi ihsusuk dimari :ngacir: :ngacir:
Nah mumpung ada yang bahas ini, saya mau tanya. Kok masih ada orang yang mau beli panther? (ini beneran nanya)
Sekalian pertanyaan berikutnya yang paling ganggu belakangan ini, kok ada orang yang mau beli innova venturer?
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piggypig77 wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:13 Longevity itu fitur apa sih? Dan siapa penemunya?
Fitur yg memberi pengguna hal" ini:

0-100: yes
Teknologi simpel: yes
Irit: yes
Bbm jelek: yes
Perawatan simple (ala" kopaja) : yes

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Jangorango wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2017 13:33
Pboyz97 wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:47
coklatMetalik wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:29 Lawannya ipah cuma Panthrrrr yang...
Yahh begitulah...

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........ :ngacir:
- 15 tahun ga ganti model
- berisik
- lemot
- limbung
- mesin , transmisi & teknologi yang dari 15 tahun lalu ga berubah
- harga udah 300jt tapi fitur safetynya kalah sama LCGC

Kaboerrrrrrrr , sebelum ditimpuk bata sama antek & penboi ihsusuk dimari :ngacir: :ngacir:
Nah mumpung ada yang bahas ini, saya mau tanya. Kok masih ada orang yang mau beli panther? (ini beneran nanya)
Sekalian pertanyaan berikutnya yang paling ganggu belakangan ini, kok ada orang yang mau beli innova venturer?
Panthrrr akan ttp ada yg beli. Krn msh ada org yg butuh mobil yg;
- MPV lega, bermoncong
- Irit
- Minum bahanbakar murah
- Mudah dirawat & diperbaiki (bahkan gk dirawat & diperbaiki pun gpp)
- Bodi keras & kokoh
- Chassis & Suspensi tangguh (per daun)

Satu2nya yg memenuhi semua kebutuhan diatas ya Panthrrr. Akan ttp ada pembelinya walau cuma 200-500 unit per bulan
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beli portuner bengsin 2,7 liter aja, tampil bedaa
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Jangorango wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2017 13:33
Nah mumpung ada yang bahas ini, saya mau tanya. Kok masih ada orang yang mau beli panther? (ini beneran nanya)
Sekalian pertanyaan berikutnya yang paling ganggu belakangan ini, kok ada orang yang mau beli innova venturer?
Karena pertanyaan pertama banyak yg lebih ahli utk jawab, ane jawab pertanyaan kedua deh.
Ntuh orang2 yg beli innova aja banyak yg nambahin krum sampe bener2 norak, toyota sadar akan hal ini & bikin lah venturer, kasih krom segambreng & naikin harga. Profit :big_grin:
Makanya ANKI ada trim2 'unofficial' bikinan dealer (cmiiw) kan yg tambah embel2 luxury (G luxury, V luxury) which is basically nambah krom doang... di jalan dah banyak tuh
Similar thing with avanza gen 2 pre FL & GNKI... ada trim luxury yg krom segambreng... cuma 2 itu trim luxurynya official dari TAM

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psiturism wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 14:55
Lho panther itu mobil bagus sekali oom..

Sampe2 kalo kita beli mobil isusu (selain truk) pasti dibilangnya "ko beli penter baru yah"

:big_biglaugh:
Mux = Panther baru :mky_07:
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Jangorango wrote:
Pboyz97 wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:47
coklatMetalik wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:29 Lawannya ipah cuma Panthrrrr yang...
Yahh begitulah...

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........ :ngacir:
- 15 tahun ga ganti model
- berisik
- lemot
- limbung
- mesin , transmisi & teknologi yang dari 15 tahun lalu ga berubah
- harga udah 300jt tapi fitur safetynya kalah sama LCGC

Kaboerrrrrrrr , sebelum ditimpuk bata sama antek & penboi ihsusuk dimari :ngacir: :ngacir:
Nah mumpung ada yang bahas ini, saya mau tanya. Kok masih ada orang yang mau beli panther? (ini beneran nanya)
Sekalian pertanyaan berikutnya yang paling ganggu belakangan ini, kok ada orang yang mau beli innova venturer?
Dulu 2015 pas nyari mbl drngan bajet terbatas penter memang jd masukan, knp? Nyari longevity dan bbrp partsnya masiih bisa dikatakan murmer.

Dengan tujuan yg penting mbl gelinding, sikat solbus, siap dihajar beban...

Ada rejeki sedikit bisa beli innova ya akhrnya beli innova [emoji1]

Emang penter yg baru waktu itu pricelistnya yg touring hrganya sama dengan innova tipe E diesel

Mahal yah penter udah nyaris 300 jeti, longevity is more expensive than gimmick and safety feature huahaha
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