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Jika kita kuras pake mesin ATF changer, sering user disarankan pake ATF hingga 10 L / lebih (utk matic unit mobil pribadi)
sedangkan dr pengamatan saya kuras ATF metode Gerlong aka manual flushing, ATF pada matic mesin Diesel 2500 cc paling cuman abis 6 L
Setelah mengamati fenomena ini sekian lama (saya pernah bantu lakukan kuras ATF ala Gerlong di bbrp mobil kawan), jadi berpikir "sebetulnya apakah perlu menggunakan ATF sampe 10 L / lebih utk matic mobil pribadi.
Suatu hal yg kita sulit utk monitor dgn mesin ATF changer adalah = perubahan warna ATF yg keluar dari matic unit
jadi kita gak tahu bahwa sebetulnya ATF yg keluar udah bening & jadinya ATF bersih tsb keluar lagi dari matic unit (terbuang)
Kesimpulan :
Jika kuras ATF dgn mesin, lebih baik isi ATF tidak melebihi jumlah ATF yg tertera pada buku manual
Jangan mudah percaya kpd bengkel yg anjurkan utk flushing ATF dlm jumlah yg sgt besar
adanya ATF lama yg tersisa sedikiittt di dalam matic unit nggak akan merusak matic, krn terdilusi oleh ATF baru yg kita masukkan. (Toh ganti oli mesin aja juga tetap ada sedikit oli lama yg tertinggal di dalam mesin). Apalagi oli ATF gak berhubungan dgn endapan sisa2 pembakaran BBM.
So no problem
Just sharing
Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
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Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Om kapasitas oli trans matic innova 14 di buku manual 10,1 liter, apa bener kalo mau kuras/flush atf sebanyak itu? Sdh km 21 rb belum pernah ganti dari baru, bgm sarannya om suhu? Thanks....
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20 rb km ganti yg di pan 4 L aja bisaWongsuroboyo wrote:Om kapasitas oli trans matic innova 14 di buku manual 10,1 liter, apa bener kalo mau kuras/flush atf sebanyak itu? Sdh km 21 rb belum pernah ganti dari baru, bgm sarannya om suhu? Thanks....
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Waktu pasang trans go buat VNT kalo gak salah hampir 10 literan juga deh, replacement olinya.
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Ane ganti di pan biasa tiap 20rb KM sekitar 3 liter
Terakhir ganti di shop n drive di odo 21rb KM oktober 2015
Sekarang odo 34rb KM mobil umur 5 tahun
Ada kepikiran buat kuras jg ntar setelah 50rb KM
Terakhir ganti di shop n drive di odo 21rb KM oktober 2015
Sekarang odo 34rb KM mobil umur 5 tahun
Ada kepikiran buat kuras jg ntar setelah 50rb KM
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Yg sedih itu, ganti atf tp filter atf (for several vehicle that are equipped with atf filter) ngga di ganti jg barengan. Useless,...
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Re: RE: Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
ATF filter gak perlu harus selalu diganti tiap kuras ATFb8099ok wrote:Yg sedih itu, ganti atf tp filter atf (for several vehicle that are equipped with atf filter) ngga di ganti jg barengan. Useless,...
krn ATF filter kapasitasnya sgt besar, konstruksi mesh & bukan paper spt filter oli mesin
si TTK (Toledo Trans Kit) saranin tiap 65 rb km........yah mrk mau omzet juga
mungkin asumsi ganti per 100 rb km
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Jadi yg bener yg mana neh?
SX4 saya bentar lagi mau flush ATF di odometer 60rb km.
Dan sudah beli ATF filter/strainer nya dan packing gasket ATF oil pan nya...
SX4 saya bentar lagi mau flush ATF di odometer 60rb km.
Dan sudah beli ATF filter/strainer nya dan packing gasket ATF oil pan nya...
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oo ya kalo udah dibeli ganti ajaarfs wrote:Jadi yg bener yg mana neh?
SX4 saya bentar lagi mau flush ATF di odometer 60rb km.
Dan sudah beli ATF filter/strainer nya dan packing gasket ATF oil pan nya...
kena brp pak kalo boleh tahu ?
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Kalau di Toda sih ganti pakai ATF charger 8 liter aja, tapi memang ini ganti di Yaris, Freed dan BRV. Disarankan sama mekaniknya tiap 15.000 ganti yg di pan saja.
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Sy kuras atf freed di beres jg 8 liter...Schweppes wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:44 Kalau di Toda sih ganti pakai ATF charger 8 liter aja, tapi memang ini ganti di Yaris, Freed dan BRV. Disarankan sama mekaniknya tiap 15.000 ganti yg di pan saja.
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Untuk SX4 lawas, atf filter nya 265 ribu dan gasket packing atf oil pan nya 70 ribu om turbo.Turboman wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:13 oo ya kalo udah dibeli ganti aja
kena brp pak kalo boleh tahu ?
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oooarfs wrote:Untuk SX4 lawas, atf filter nya 265 ribu dan gasket packing atf oil pan nya 70 ribu om turbo.Turboman wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:13 oo ya kalo udah dibeli ganti aja
kena brp pak kalo boleh tahu ?
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Kalo ganti di pan 4 liter harus pake oli yang sama yah, toyota T IV? Ato boleh pake merk lain asal specnya T IV, bgm om?Turboman wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:4320 rb km ganti yg di pan 4 L aja bisaWongsuroboyo wrote:Om kapasitas oli trans matic innova 14 di buku manual 10,1 liter, apa bener kalo mau kuras/flush atf sebanyak itu? Sdh km 21 rb belum pernah ganti dari baru, bgm sarannya om suhu? Thanks....
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For some vehicle, it is paper.Turboman wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:37ATF filter gak perlu harus selalu diganti tiap kuras ATFb8099ok wrote:Yg sedih itu, ganti atf tp filter atf (for several vehicle that are equipped with atf filter) ngga di ganti jg barengan. Useless,...
krn ATF filter kapasitasnya sgt besar, konstruksi mesh & bukan paper spt filter oli mesin
si TTK (Toledo Trans Kit) saranin tiap 65 rb km........yah mrk mau omzet juga
mungkin asumsi ganti per 100 rb km
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Jadwal perawatan berkala untuk transmisi matic di buku manual itu flushing apa yg di pan aja om Turbo?
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Maaf om nyambung utk oli transmisi ATF Pajero shogun 3500 cc buldog kl dikuras butuh berapa liter ya omTurboman wrote:20 rb km ganti yg di pan 4 L aja bisaWongsuroboyo wrote:Om kapasitas oli trans matic innova 14 di buku manual 10,1 liter, apa bener kalo mau kuras/flush atf sebanyak itu? Sdh km 21 rb belum pernah ganti dari baru, bgm sarannya om suhu? Thanks....
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bisa ditanyakan ke BeRes merek mobil ybsbemaiself wrote:Jadwal perawatan berkala untuk transmisi matic di buku manual itu flushing apa yg di pan aja om Turbo?
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Om turbo, mohon info, untuk flush oli matic innova 2004 km130,000 , kalo flush oli matic, apakah perlu ganti filter atau apa ngga?? Atau hanya gnti oli saja? Trims om
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Historicalnya spt apa? Klo rajin tap hrsnya msh ok tu. Klo dr baru ga pernah ganti, disarankan ganti sih.Arthur wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:37 Om turbo, mohon info, untuk flush oli matic innova 2004 km130,000 , kalo flush oli matic, apakah perlu ganti filter atau apa ngga?? Atau hanya gnti oli saja? Trims om
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
terakhir minta flush Otlendir di beres ... kata SA-nya cuman pake 4 liter ... soalnya oli-nya masih bening ...
mileage baru 40K-an ...
mileage baru 40K-an ...
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Cvtf J4? Coba pake aisin cvtf deh.A7Corsair wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:17 terakhir minta flush Otlendir di beres ... kata SA-nya cuman pake 4 liter ... soalnya oli-nya masih bening ...
mileage baru 40K-an ...
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
impact-nya apa oom ?
saya cuman nyari yg cocok dan aman aja kemaren ...
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Feels smoother aja pas ane coba. Also more direct just a little bit.A7Corsair wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:23impact-nya apa oom ?
saya cuman nyari yg cocok dan aman aja kemaren ...
FWD + FWD + 4WD + 4WD =
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Re: Kuras ATF brp banyak ATF yg sebetulnya kita butuhkan ?
Tapi pasti aman yak pake aisin itu ?
Oli cvt kan susah2 gampang ...
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