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Berawal dari baca baca trit nya om Turboman di viewtopic.php?f=34&t=25316, sepertinya secara umum emank belakangan ini bisnis lagi lesu banget, kebetulan saya sendiri juga alami uda hampir sekitar 2 tahun :big_childish:

saya sendiri main di distribusi jajanan / makanan ringan ( chiki chiki ) uda hampir 8 tahunan, bole dibilang 2 tahun terakhir ini emank lagi lesu lesunya, emank sich kaga sampe rugi, bahkan ada teman yang bilang jangan berharap untung banyak, gak rugi dan bisa survive saja uda termasuk yang beruntung, tapi masa sich kita hidup dari hari ke hari cuma mau stagnan di tempat, kan gak sich ( kecuali harta saya uda sebanyak Raja yang lagi berkunjung ke Bali :big_love: )

Setelah sekian waktu meratapi kejenuhan tanpa ada perkembangan, akhirnya kepikiran mending kerja di LN aja trus iseng2 kontak salah satu teman yang pernah kerja di LN tepatnya di Amrik, dulunya dia bekerja secara ilegal di sana ( Di restoran ). tapi tidak bisa berharap banyak info dari teman, berhubung pengalaman nya itu dah hampir 5 tahun yang lalu, saat ini dia uda indonesia, makanya coba coba bikin trit ini sapa tahu ada SM-ers yang bisa share pengalaman.

ohya, saat ini saya uda berumur below 40 dan lulusan S1 yang gak jago bahasa inggris :big_cry: , tentunya gak berharap jadi manager atau direktur di negri orang :mky_01: cukup pekerjaan yang unskill aja. Apakah LN khususnya amrik masi memungkinkan kita kerja secara ilegal disana ( applynya ntar visa turis )

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mantengin ah.... calon HT neh. :emo-big_love:

ini thread termasuk kegemaran Om NR. :mky_02:

kalo spesifik buat di Amrik, ada Om Pos Vett yg bisa ngasih info detail. Mumpung Juli ntar beliau mo pulkam ke sini. :big_comfort:
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illegal sy tdk pernah bahkan sy pernah tau ongkos kitas sy di indo resmi dulu us$ 1,200

n sy liat (saat sy putuskan ambil us citizenship sepuluh thn lalu) indo yg sinking tdk akan afloat lg
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Ada teman dulu sempat di Aussie, lalu USA lalu Canada..
Setau saya sih ilegal semua.. kusut yang pas di USA yg berbarengan bareng orang Indo pada pulang..

Klo saya sih pengalamannya di cruise line.. trayek perahu saya Urop, Ameriki sama Carribean aja
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Ini sudah punya family atau gimana om?

Skrg ke US agak susah mungkin ya, abis si T naik jadi Presiden.
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Riskan pasti oom kalo ilegal, kalo kecekal masalahnya bisa panjang. Dan tourist visa setau sy cuma bisa perpanjang 1 x 30 hari. Kalo lebih harus apply baru lagi di negara asal.

Tapi visa kerja setau saya baik orang / instansi yang bersangkutan juga harus bayar semacam "fee" tambahan per bulan... Which is juga nggak murah... Selain visa nya sendiri lebih mahal... Tapi at least jauh lebih aman dibanding pake visa yang tidak layak... Krn resikonya buesarrr...

Kalo kerja ikut orang ya bisa aja diterima klw perusahaannya nekat... Tapi klw kecekal si perusahaan juga ikut kena... Bisa di deportasi.
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Btw, negara2 di Skandinavia apakah masih ramah pendatang? Denger2 pertumbuhan penduduknya rada sérét.

Dan bagaimana peluang di Eropa Timur?
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Jangan ilegal mendingan.. Kerja resmi aja gaji gede..

Kalau kerja ilegal, uda dikejar2 federal police belum lagi gajinya bisa 30% dari gaji normal biasanya..

Saya pribadi mungkin mau apply ke canada, karena disana butuh orang, land sebesar indonesia populasi hanya 12 juta orang..
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yg legal2 aja seperti au-pair, yaitu jd pembantu/babysitter di de/europa.. cuma mgkin ada batas umurnya..
alternatif lain green card lottery..
alternatif lain lagi cari suaka.
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Kalau baca2 masuk swedia paling gampang ya. Canada mkgn gampang juga karena PMnya liberal sekali. Aussie ud susah sejak Abbott era gatau skrg.
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Kalo udah dapet duit cukup atau puas mau balik, tinggal buat keributan. Hahaha. Deportasi gratis. Hahaha
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Aussie sekarang susah ajubilah.

Dulu saya abis uni disana mau PR susah. Masa IELTS harus 8 out of 9? Insane kah mereka?

Harusnya pelajar yang sudah bayar 3x lipat dari local kan dapat keringanan. Kita, orang Indo salah satu pemasukan terbesar mereka salah satunya dari anak anak uni.

Kurang ajarnya ya malah dipersulit.

Lain cerita dengan Asylum seekers, easy come easy go. Datang pke perahu dijamin kasih tempat tinggal hape dan uang $100 apa $200 per week kalau ga salah.. Enak bener kan?
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Disini ga ada yang nyoba PR ke NZ??

kira-kira mudah apa sulit seperti aussie apa ga ya?

Btw, aussie kelihatannya syarat PR ielts masih 7 sih

Jujur saya pun jg sgt benci dgn ielts... ga pinter sastra bahasa. Tp mau gimana lagi itu udh jadi syarat dan di komersial jg. Rasanya kayak belajar bahasa inggris yang mudah tapi dipersulit dgn ielts. Sekali tes aja bayar mahal belum uang kursusnya. *malah curcol*


* menurut saya Aussie skrg komersil banget spt biaya pendidikan
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Sekarang intinnya nyari kerja halal aja susah apalagi yang haram/ilegal
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Iranians biasa n ahli masuk sini tanpa documents n ngaku dr afghan (krn bahasa mrk yg sama).......tau tau mrk sdh ada di dlm europe......n ampir tiap minggu sy nemu mrk dpn kantoor......30 - 50 org per minggu. ....mostly laki n masih muda muda

umur skitar 28 - 35 thn tapi ngaku 15 - 17 thn spy bisa dpt skolah gratis.....makan tiga x sehari pasti gratis........

smua seek asylum n kita disini jelas (cara mrk hebat) tdk bs deportasi mrk n ahir nya (on humanitarian ground krn tdk ktahuan asal sebenarnya dr mana.....persis nya dr kota / desa apa) ya.....kita trima asylum application mrk n dlm itungan bulan ssdh positive decision mrk dpt gratis apartment (satu org satu apartment bukan sharing ya....lumayan fully furnished 44sq.m satu kamar tidur dgn kitchen yg juga furnished. ...four pointed stove n oven 'electrolux' / 'bosch' .....fidge jufa dgn brand sama)

pas skolah dpt notebook gratis (thn ini 'dell', thn lalu 'hp').....kalo skolah jauh (lbh dr 2km distance) kita bayarin public transp.ticket bulanan (€ 85 - 100 per month) bisa naik tram, bus, metro brapa x pun terserah.......sewa apartment, listrik, home wifi, tv cable juga kita bayarin (kita yg ngemis ke tiap host govt.)

yg blm punya kerjaan (99.9%) kita kursus kan selama dua thn n kita gaji mrk spy tdk malas datang ke kursus (sy kadang incognito visit ke camps / coursework sites mrk).....tiap tdk masuk kita potong gaji mrk (biasanya mrk bawa bukti potong gaji ke municipality office sehingga municipality yg bayarin kekurangan gaji itu n kita cuma bisa pasrah n sabar liat betapa pintar nya mrk.........ha ha ha......tapi sy tdk pernah marah dgn urusan bgitu krn itukan pintar pintar nya mrk......bukankah manusia lahir n idup u jadi pintar)

lima sampe tujuh thn ssdh, mrk bisa claim citizenship di hosting country........sy byk yg masih suka hub sy

yg datang dgn legal documents tapi gagal dlm asyl application inteview ya kita deportasi krn ktahuan asalnya dr mana
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newrubble wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2017 18:35 Iranians biasa n ahli masuk sini tanpa documents n ngaku dr afghan (krn bahasa mrk yg sama).......tau tau mrk sdh ada di dlm europe......n ampir tiap minggu sy nemu mrk dpn kantoor......30 - 50 org per minggu. ....mostly laki n masih muda muda

umur skitar 28 - 35 thn tapi ngaku 15 - 17 thn spy bisa dpt skolah gratis.....makan tiga x sehari pasti gratis........

smua seek asylum n kita disini jelas (cara mrk hebat) tdk bs deportasi mrk n ahir nya (on humanitarian ground krn tdk ktahuan asal sebenarnya dr mana.....persis nya dr kota / desa apa) ya.....kita trima asylum application mrk n dlm itungan bulan ssdh positive decision mrk dpt gratis apartment (satu org satu apartment bukan sharing ya....lumayan fully furnished 44sq.m satu kamar tidur dgn kitchen yg juga furnished. ...four pointed stove n oven 'electrolux' / 'bosch' .....fidge jufa dgn brand sama)

pas skolah dpt notebook gratis (thn ini 'dell', thn lalu 'hp').....kalo skolah jauh (lbh dr 2km distance) kita bayarin public transp.ticket bulanan (€ 85 - 100 per month) bisa naik tram, bus, metro brapa x pun terserah.......sewa apartment, listrik, home wifi, tv cable juga kita bayarin (kita yg ngemis ke tiap host govt.)

yg blm punya kerjaan (99.9%) kita kursus kan selama dua thn n kita gaji mrk spy tdk malas datang ke kursus (sy kadang incognito visit ke camps / coursework sites mrk).....tiap tdk masuk kita potong gaji mrk (biasanya mrk bawa bukti potong gaji ke municipality office sehingga municipality yg bayarin kekurangan gaji itu n kita cuma bisa pasrah n sabar liat betapa pintar nya mrk.........ha ha ha......tapi sy tdk pernah marah dgn urusan bgitu krn itukan pintar pintar nya mrk......bukankah manusia lahir n idup u jadi pintar)

lima sampe tujuh thn ssdh, mrk bisa claim citizenship di hosting country........sy byk yg masih suka hub sy

yg datang dgn legal documents tapi gagal dlm asyl application inteview ya kita deportasi krn ktahuan asalnya dr mana
bole tahu om posisi dimana ?
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Ryukent wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:25 bole tahu om posisi dimana ?
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calon HT nh..
Sebenernya pengen kerja di LN, tapi dah ada buntut nungguin :mky_05:
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Kalo amerika kayaknya lagi susah ya, temen temen saya yg kuliah disana aja pada balik ke indo, takut di deportasi katanya .-,
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jadi mendingan jadi refugee ya daripada coba apply legal :lol: :mky_01:
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ya betul n sy dikasihtau bgt byk asyls di sini

masuk diam diam ke dalam eropa (ngumpet dlm truck / cargo train)

jgn bawa documents apapun .....tar smua di tulis sesuai self declare trmsk mundurin umur (muka tua 35 ngaku 25 atau 20)

pake bhs inggeris yg bagus .....ngaku sj dr mana

mrk bilang .....dijamin tdk bs di deportasi (krn tdk ktahuan asal dr mana)
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Klo ke ln punya modal 1juta usd kira2 bisa jadi legal ga?

Tp diluar mesti apa2 sendiri -_-
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hahaha mmg org iran ini pd pinter ngeles...d tmpt sy jg ada bbrp..kl kerja sk ga bener & semau gue, tp pinter bgt ngelesnya...

anyway sy salut sih sm semangat mrk buat merantau...mrk sadar jg kl bahasa inggris itu modal yg penting..jd penasaran jg sy, yg ktnya anti barat tp kok bhs inggrisnya bgs..ya stdaknya yg sy ktm dsni..kl d tmpt lain sih ga tau jg..

btw kl mcm indonesia yg bukan negara konflik mmg bs ya apply jd assylum seekers ?
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bisa

when u are a political dissident
or
belonged to minority group ur govt cant protect u against discrimination