Teknik Pencurian dgn Frequency Recorder, Fact or Fiction?

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Teknik Pencurian dgn Frequency Recorder, Fact or Fiction?

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Baru saja dapat info dari twitter teman saya soal modus baru pencurian mobil/motor



Menurut rekan2 bagaimana? Ini fakta atau fiksi?
Monggo mampir ke blog saya http://yahyakurniawan.net
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Not a fiction, I can say that much.
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maling di negara maju sana sih banyak yang make ginian, makanya immobilizer canggih baik aftermarket atau pabrikan itu ada fitur rolling code, encryption, chip di kunci, etc.

so far sih di indonesia kyknya belum banyak maling yg make alat canggih.... soalnya pake golok pun udah ampuh sih.....(nodong yang megang kunci mobil)
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POS VETT wrote:Not a fiction, I can say that much.
tau darimana om pos vett? apa ada link bisa untuk reference?
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waduh gimana nasibnya nih teknologi immobilizer :big_cry:

ada yang bisa konfirmasi mengenai hal ini?
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untung mobil ane masih pake kunci biasa....... :ngacir:
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anakgembrot wrote:waduh gimana nasibnya nih teknologi immobilizer :big_cry:

ada yang bisa konfirmasi mengenai hal ini?
tenang saja immobilizer di mobil2 sekarang udah lumayan canggih koq rata2 integrated sama ecunya........ sampe2 mobil bos pernah ngga bisa di start sama sekali.. bawa ke beres ternyata immobilizer module nya harus diganti.. kena 14 juta whahahahaha.. sinting......... menurut gue sih cukup aman, mau dashboard dibongkar kabel di jump jg mobil2 yang kayak gini ga akan bisa nyala tanpa kunci (pake chip) yang teregister di immobilizernya..

cuman ya kalau mobilnya pake alarm abal2 ya code nya gampang di duplikat tuh...cuman maling sini setau gue sih blom ada yg pake teknik ini..dan mobil yang pake alarm/keyless entry jg belum tentu ada immobilizernya..
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maling dimari belajarnya telat...tapi pasti tetep akan kemari bbrp tahun mendatang.
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Selama mobil terlaris di Indo belum pakai immobiliser, maling sini ga usah pakai alat2 gini.. Cukup potong kabel dan kunci T juga udah bisa bawa pergi mobil disini mah, ditambah banyak yg mau belinya

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di kembar avanza xenia maksudnya? jualnya gampang juga.
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Benar om montir.. Buat apa modal alat canggih kalau pakai peralatan tradisional juga sudah bisa curi mobil yg mudah jualnya.. :mrgreen:

Setahu saya mobil yang paling sering kecurian ya Avanza dan Innova.. Dan mobil2 niaga seperti pick up.. CMIIW

Karena rasanya di Indo jaringan pencuri mobil mewah tidak banyak (atau mungkin tidak ada?)


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montirangin wrote:
POS VETT wrote:Not a fiction, I can say that much.
tau darimana om pos vett? apa ada link bisa untuk reference?
Ini salah satunya. Satu lagi di wired.com. Artikel di Forbes. Kalau sistem2 yang lebih simpel seperti aftermarket alarm, lebih gampang lagi di-hack. Jaman sekarang kalau maling mobil mau ambil mobil anda, tidak ada cara yang 100% maling-proof.

Mau pakai immobilizer, kunci setir, alarm 5 biji, dan dirantai ke tiang listrik, kalau mobilnya diangkut mau apa ?
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Di video itu tentang remote copier ya.

Saya belum pernah beli remote copier untuk remote mobil, tpi saya pernah beli remote copier untuk remote control head unit saya. Berupa remote control dengan beberapa tombol kosong (tanpa fungsi) terus remote aseli bawaan HU kita copy satu persatu dengan cara mirip seperti di video.

Remote copier untuk mobil juga setau saya banyak dijual di ebay dengan harga murah, dan mungkin bisa dipraktekkan seperti di video.Tapi sepertinya bukan untuk pengganti immobilizer krn immobilizer itu kan rfid. Meskipun pernah lihat juga sih perangkat rfid scanner di video tentang pencurian data kartu kredit ber-rfid. Itu juga malingnya harus mendekatkan scanner ke lokasi kunci target.
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djia wrote:Di video itu tentang remote copier ya.

Saya belum pernah beli remote copier untuk remote mobil, tpi saya pernah beli remote copier untuk remote control head unit saya. Berupa remote control dengan beberapa tombol kosong (tanpa fungsi) terus remote aseli bawaan HU kita copy satu persatu dengan cara mirip seperti di video.

Remote copier untuk mobil juga setau saya banyak dijual di ebay dengan harga murah, dan mungkin bisa dipraktekkan seperti di video.Tapi sepertinya bukan untuk pengganti immobilizer krn immobilizer itu kan rfid. Meskipun pernah lihat juga sih perangkat rfid scanner di video tentang pencurian data kartu kredit ber-rfid. Itu juga malingnya harus mendekatkan scanner ke lokasi kunci target.
setuju om.

untuk immobilizer sepertinya tidak bisa ter'copy, sebab perlu sangat dekat dengan sumbernya. ibaratnya kunci kontak yang berisi chip immobilizer agak jauh saja dari mobil, maka mesin nya di starter ga mau hidup.
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kalau immobilizer ertiga pake jepang atau jerman yah mohon infonya gan
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POS VETT wrote:
montirangin wrote:
POS VETT wrote:Not a fiction, I can say that much.
tau darimana om pos vett? apa ada link bisa untuk reference?
Ini salah satunya. Satu lagi di wired.com. Artikel di Forbes. Kalau sistem2 yang lebih simpel seperti aftermarket alarm, lebih gampang lagi di-hack. Jaman sekarang kalau maling mobil mau ambil mobil anda, tidak ada cara yang 100% maling-proof.

Mau pakai immobilizer, kunci setir, alarm 5 biji, dan dirantai ke tiang listrik, kalau mobilnya diangkut mau apa ?
Kalo diangkut disini mah bkn kerjaan maling bahkan gk pernah denger tapi kerjaan Dishub.
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thx om pos vett
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tesna wrote:maling di negara maju sana sih banyak yang make ginian, makanya immobilizer canggih baik aftermarket atau pabrikan itu ada fitur rolling code, encryption, chip di kunci, etc.

so far sih di indonesia kyknya belum banyak maling yg make alat canggih.... soalnya pake golok pun udah ampuh sih.....(nodong yang megang kunci mobil)

itu sih bukan maling. tapi ngerampok.

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rampok = secara terang terangan.
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bahasa yg baik om vipere
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murah euii duplikator remotenya
ga nyampe 100k di ebay :v
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namanya apa om salvanost?
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Remote control car clone