Transmisi Honda 8-Speed DSG

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Transmisi Honda 8-Speed DSG

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TOCHIGI (DP) — Honda tampaknya sedang melakukan revolusi besar dalam menciptakan mesin yang lebih hemat bahan bakar. Setelah mengenalkan tiga tipe mesin terbaru berteknologi VTEC TURBO (1.0-liter, 1.5-liter dan 2.0-liter), Honda juga akan memainkan teknologi transmisi 8-speed berkopling ganda (Direct-Shift Gearbox, DSG).

Kepastian rencana penggunaan transmisi 8-speed telah diungkapkan Honda di depan jurnalis dunia di Tochigi, Jepang, hari ini, Selasa (19/11). Sistem perpindahan gear tersebut akan melanjutkan generasi transmisi 7-speed.

Menurut Honda, dibandingkan transmisi 5-speed, 8-speed kopling ganda mampu menghemat penggunaan bahan bakar hingga 8 persen dan meningkatkan waktu performa akselerasi hingga lebih dari 10 persen.

Honda menerapkan konverter torsi pada sistem transmisi 8-speed. Peranti ini bertujuan untuk menghaluskan proses pergantian tingkat percepatan. Meski pihak Honda belum mau menjawab model mobil yang akan menerapkan transmisi 8-speed, namun mereka mengatakan terknologi tersebut sudah siap dipakai.

Besar kemungkinan transmisi berkopling ganda akan dikenakan Honda pada model-model mobil bermesin 2.0-liter hingga 3.0-liter. Honda juga mengisyaratkan bahwa transmisi 7-speed dan 8-speed kopling ganda akan menjadi fitur standar. [dp/GRG]

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setelah mulai pasang turbo di mesin VTEC generasi terbaru, skrg transmisi kopling ganda/dsg
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semoga ini jadi pasangan serasi antara mesin vtec turbo dengan transmisi 8 speed dsg dan bakal jadi fitur standar mobil honda indo nantinya
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bukannya sekarang udah om... tp kena sunat 3-4 gear. jdnya tinggal 4-5 gear doank deh....

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Mudah2-an gak problem dah

Jgn spt VW punya
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memang yg di vw knp om? model seperti ini kelemahannya apa aja ya?
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jangan2 sudah bisa 10 speed, tapi ini masih disunat 2 speed dulu karena honda memang jago sunat hahaha :big_biglaugh: :wkkk: :mky_07:
ndak mudeng teknologi transmisi, tahunya transmisi manual dan matic thok :big_blushing: :big_blushing:
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y_anjasrana wrote:memang yg di vw knp om? model seperti ini kelemahannya apa aja ya?
Google : VW Mechatronic problem

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Ane setuju sama om Turbo...

Problema ketahanan DSG masih menghantui mobil2 modern...

Untuk Ahond sendiri, harusnya digunakan 5/6 sp AT. Conventional geared rules! :mky_02:

Bijimane pun, suatu terobosan yg patut dihargai. Asal ga disunat DSG jadi SSG... Single Sequential Gearbox, dan jadi 4 sp AT.

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Ane lebih suka 7 speed A/T conventional.............. Masih jauh lbh murah pasti benerinnya kalo ada apa2...
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Mobil temen ane , fiesta dual clutchnya bermasalah..masih garansi sih, tpi karena trauma lsg dijual

Apa mungkin penggunaan transmisi yg canggih2 gni karena iklim dan traffic indonesia yg harsh..still believe 5-6 at aja hhwheheh
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ola_comoesta wrote:Mobil temen ane , fiesta dual clutchnya bermasalah..masih garansi sih, tpi karena trauma lsg dijual

Apa mungkin penggunaan transmisi yg canggih2 gni karena iklim dan traffic indonesia yg harsh..still believe 5-6 at aja hhwheheh
Bah....emang se panas2-nya suhu Jkt apa sampe 50 derajat gitu ??

Kalo barang gagal ya tetep aja........knp jadi lingkungan yg disalahkan........hehehe

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Btw denger2 DCT yg sistem wet clucth sering bermasalah, yg Dry clucth konon lebih reliable

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gambar transmisi 8-speed honda kaya gitu? itu bukannya crown wheel sama pinion?
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loh om turbo, benernya klo produk gni belum sempurna..kenapa koq masih dimass production ya?

menurut om transmisi yg gimana yg reliable, selain manual conventional, jadi seimbang antara reliable dan kompensasi powerloss

klo jenis skyactiv drive itu dia include apa ya?..ane merasa di city ane CVT 7 speed itu kayak gigi 4 tpi dipecah2 lagi menjadi 7, is it true?
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ola_comoesta wrote:loh om turbo, benernya klo produk gni belum sempurna..kenapa koq masih dimass production ya?
Yg bikin gak sempurna kan krn pabrikan mencoba tekan cost......kalo budget parts unlimited mah gak akan masalah.....tapi bo cuan buat si pabrik.....hehehehehehhe

Utk kapasitas handle Torsi sih DSG bisa gede banget krn basicnya dia kan adalah 2 transmisi manual dijadikan 1 casing + kopling dikontrol scr electro hydraulic.....tinggal tergantung koplingnya aja
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DCT utk truk

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Ini kemungkinan besar sistem Dry Clutch, lihat chamber gigi2 dan kopling-nya terpisah
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ngebongkar girboks manual aja belum khatam, eeeh... keluar girboks kaya ginian..... :frm_bang_head:
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marmut wrote:ngebongkar girboks manual aja belum khatam, eeeh... keluar girboks kaya ginian..... :frm_bang_head:
Ane bisa dikit2 kl ngebongkar girboks manual... tapi ga khatam masang nya. baut aja sering salah lubang...

*pengalaman bongkar girboks Panther PU bokap... berakhir dengan kebingungan dan omelan bokap...* :big_slap:

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Apalagi ane, ngelepas girboks aja kagak bisa :upss:
Ane kalo repair main colok aja kek gini

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Halah... sampe indonesia paling2 disunat sama jonpis.... wkwkwkw :P
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gak bisa bayangin kalo ada DSG manual transmission

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Kenapa ya tidak ada 8 gear manual transmission ? sekarang maksimum cuma 5 atau 6 gitu.
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ilhami wrote:Kenapa ya tidak ada 8 gear manual transmission ? sekarang maksimum cuma 5 atau 6 gitu.
spt ini ?

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latest klo ga salah ZF kan buat 9 speed ya?..harus om turbo jabarkan nih tutorial mengenai transmisi hehehe
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Honda motorcycle models featuring Dual Clutch Transmission
VFR1200F
INTEGRA
NC700S
NC700X
VFR1200X
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http://world.honda.com/motorcycle-picturebook/DCT/

pada penerapan teknologi transmisi utk motor, saat ini Honda sudah masuk pada tahap Second Generation.

Seamless-Shift Gearbox semakin populer, apalagi karna pada musim ini pembalap Motogp Honda meraih
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ZF bmw 8 speed non dsg cukup halus dan cepat kalo di stel di sport DS

pengalaman ane yang dry clutch fiesta juga bikin takut ambil DSG .....umur diatas 2 tahun sudah ganti sparepart sampe 3x :(
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