Kaya Hyundai gak pernah facelift, gak pernah ganti model aja Silahkan beli Hyundai toh? Semua ada plus minusnya. Berita Fortuner VNT udah ada dari dulu - gak research dulu sebelum beli mobil ya salah siapa?ry888 wrote:memang ga ada paksaan..
penyesalan n kekecewaan bisa bikin org lbh "hati-hati" kalo mo beli fortuner lg...
Bisa2 pindah hati lg ke hyundai.. harga sama tapi dgn spec n fitur yg jauh lbh canggih
Dari Grand New Fortuner Ke Grand New Fortuner VNT
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Yg punya BMW harus malu juga gak? http://rumors.automobilemag.com/report- ... 63197.htmlDeasegara wrote:Ya sih bro, memang banyak cara tapi kalo caranya seperti itu kan bikin malu ya, apalagi kang FM yang sepertinya me-represent TOYOTA disini harusnya juga malu, kalo gak malu ya .......gak tahu dech...ha---ha---ha..... Seharusnya cara yg fair, bukan ketakutan kurang laku productnya disana trus bohongin public macam itu.....kan sayang dg image TOYOTA yg selama ini dah bagus........
Kok ente gak koar2 ttg BMW....obsesi sama toyota atau gimana?Report: BMW Inflating Sales Numbers By Giving Dealers Big Discounts
Written by: Donny Nordlicht [G+] on August 15 2012 9:00 AM
BMW is determined to dethrone Mercedes-Benz as the best-selling luxury marque in the U.S. It may be going to extreme lengths to do so, too, according to a new report from The Wall Street Journal.
BMW and Mercedes-Benz have been battling it out this year for the title of the top-selling luxury automaker in the U.S. As of the end of last month, BMW crept ahead of its rival from Stuttgart, but only by a slim 1985-unit margin. (BMW sold 21,297 cars to Mercedes’ 19,312.)
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Sudah sudah, kabar ttg toyota malsuin total penjualan juga kan belum tentu berita valid, tapi kita bisa liat kenyataannya di jalanan indonesia pan paling banyak itu toyota.
Tolong yang ada info fortuner VNT bisa infoin ke om momod Abu2, biar langsung bisa DP ntar di IIMS
Tolong yang ada info fortuner VNT bisa infoin ke om momod Abu2, biar langsung bisa DP ntar di IIMS
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Yg lucu GM, BMW...saya search 5 detik di google dapet tuduhan begini2an. Tapi yg obsesi sama toyota berulang2 paste beritanya - yg lain dia pura2 gak liatBelphegor wrote:Sudah sudah, kabar ttg toyota malsuin total penjualan juga kan belum tentu berita valid, tapi kita bisa liat kenyataannya di jalanan indonesia pan paling banyak itu toyota.
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Belphegor wrote:
Tolong yang ada info fortuner VNT bisa infoin ke om momod Abu2, biar langsung bisa DP ntar di IIMS
sepertinya ANSF vs GNF VNT , bisa head to head dibandingin khan?
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jangan head to head omm......apple to apple ajah...!!
head to head kesannya mau brantemmm....
head to head kesannya mau brantemmm....
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ANSF sepertinya kalah di "reability dan aftersales" issue
boleh juga deh bang Kur, apple to apple
boleh juga deh bang Kur, apple to apple
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ANSF itu singkatan apaan yah??? maklum neh newbie mohon pencerahan nyaa hehe
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ol nyu santa pe
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Kalo dari segi harga sih bisa apple to apple ya ANSF - GNF VNT - PS Dakar. Liat fitur, model, mesin sih ane ga pikir 2x lagi langsung hajar ANSF. Tapi setau saya ANSF monocoque kan?
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harganya apple to apple. bodyplatformnya enggak apple to apple....
jd apa dong nih? apple to samsung ?
jd apa dong nih? apple to samsung ?
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Belphegor wrote:Kalo dari segi harga sih bisa apple to apple ya ANSF - GNF VNT - PS Dakar. Liat fitur, model, mesin sih ane ga pikir 2x lagi langsung hajar ANSF. Tapi setau saya ANSF monocoque kan?
terus kalo monocoque knapa omm...banci yaa....ach, itu mah bahasanya om Andy ajah....lol
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duh bener juga ya....ini malah lebih parah ributnyaa....wkwkandy1800 wrote:harganya apple to apple. bodyplatformnya enggak apple to apple....
jd apa dong nih? apple to samsung ?
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Banci sih belum tentu, cuman memang Santa Fe tidak dirancang untuk off roading. Kalo dipakenya di jalan raya aja ya menang Santa Fe kemana mana. Kalo pake di dua alam - apalagi kalo Fortuner 4x4...ya menang Fortie.
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main singkatan gini memang kadang malah bikin bingungAbu2 wrote:ANSF sepertinya kalah di "reability dan aftersales" issue
boleh juga deh bang Kur, apple to apple
si vis pacem para bellum - si vis bellum para pacem - si vis pacem para pactum
de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum
listening before talking - reading before writing - doing before asking
de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum
listening before talking - reading before writing - doing before asking
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santi 1 = SMandy1800 wrote:ol nyu santa pe
santi 2 = CM
santi 3 = DM
si vis pacem para bellum - si vis bellum para pacem - si vis pacem para pactum
de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum
listening before talking - reading before writing - doing before asking
de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum
listening before talking - reading before writing - doing before asking
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pertantaan nya ga di jwb.. biar ngira2 sndiri aja deh..
ansf = all new santa fe bkn yah? hehe
ansf = all new santa fe bkn yah? hehe
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Bener kan...kalo GM, BMW ada tuduhan sales number inflation....gak ada komentar begitu toyota...di copas ulang2. Kasian bener...FortunerMan wrote:Yg lucu GM, BMW...saya search 5 detik di google dapet tuduhan begini2an. Tapi yg obsesi sama toyota berulang2 paste beritanya - yg lain dia pura2 gak liatBelphegor wrote:Sudah sudah, kabar ttg toyota malsuin total penjualan juga kan belum tentu berita valid, tapi kita bisa liat kenyataannya di jalanan indonesia pan paling banyak itu toyota.
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FortunerMan wrote:Banci sih belum tentu, cuman memang Santa Fe tidak dirancang untuk off roading. Kalo dipakenya di jalan raya aja ya menang Santa Fe kemana mana. Kalo pake di dua alam - apalagi kalo Fortuner 4x4...ya menang Fortie.
betul buangettt......tapi kalo dikit-dikitan kita menang pastiiiii.....
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SF baru ini bakalan lebih banyak menurut ane - designnya udah setara sm the Japanese globals (RAV-4 atau CR-V)....aftersales udah lumayan bagus.
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wah ga punya mobil fwd...sedan fwd aja ga bisa nikmatin, apa enaknya suv fwd yah..?
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andy1800 wrote:harganya apple to apple. bodyplatformnya enggak apple to apple....
jd apa dong nih? apple to samsung ?
kalo mencoba melihat dari kacamata sederhana "cara kendaraan memenuhi kebutuhan", dimana kebutuhan dimaksud adalah :
mobil 3 baris.
rentang harga 400jt-an
keren.
mungkin tinggal dikumpulkan aja kategori2 dimaksud diatas,
disisi lain , untuk car enthusiast yang "outspoken", ya kategori di atas bisa jadi dianggap kurang detail atau bisa menjadikan "misscommunication"
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klo ga boleh Apple vs Samsung...ya gapapaAbu2 wrote:andy1800 wrote:harganya apple to apple. bodyplatformnya enggak apple to apple....
jd apa dong nih? apple to samsung ?
kalo mencoba melihat dari kacamata sederhana "cara kendaraan memenuhi kebutuhan", dimana kebutuhan dimaksud adalah :
mobil 3 baris.
rentang harga 400jt-an
keren.
mungkin tinggal dikumpulkan aja kategori2 dimaksud diatas,
disisi lain , untuk car enthusiast yang "outspoken", ya kategori di atas bisa jadi dianggap kurang detail atau bisa menjadikan "misscommunication"
yaudah, USA for Africa aja deh.
drpd Malio to Alexis ntar malah gak pulang2 ente wan
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asal jangan becek berkabut aja dah Pak'E
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klo urusan becek, kabut, dan embun kek gitu, itu dah wilayah kewenangannya jombi ama kopat deh ...biar mereka bedua ndiri yg selesaikan urusannya ...jd kita mendingan dengerin hansen bernyanyi aja ya wan...