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Drivers question French car quality
February 19, 2010
THE RELIABILITY of French cars has been called into question in an international survey of drivers.
Almost a quarter of a million motorists in France, Germany, Switzerland, Brazil and China were asked to name the makes of vehicle they trusted the most.
Even in France, where the survey was carried out by L'Automobile magazine, only 22% of respondents named French brands Citroën, Renault or Peugeot spontaneously when asked for a reliable make of car.
Japanese brands scored best in France - at 67% - followed by German makes including Audi and BMW at 48%.
Respondents in other countries had a similar opinion of French cars: with between 25% and 32% of people considering them reliable.
asudarsono wrote:Airbag, ABS mobil CKD emang banyak yg gak nyala. Gak heran deh. Yaaah, yang penting bunda selamat.
Most car companies say a vehicle has to experience an impact that generates at least 7 G's of force before it will trigger the air bag. For most vehicles, this would be the equivalent of hitting a solid barrier at 12 to 15 mph, or hitting another vehicle at a speed of about 25 mph. In reality, the air bag may deploy at higher or lower speeds.
jadi sepertinya, bukan karena ringsek doang triggernya... nah, pertanyaan berikutnya, sensornya ada di mana, dan berapa sensitifitasnya?
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
Want you car to start in the morning? Buy Japanese.
Otherwise - you guessed it - choose French
Top Gear would like to propose a new addition to the great lexicon of similes. Since there seems to be no accepted standard for 'as reliable as...', we'd like to propose 'as reliable as a Japanese automobile'.
OK, it may be not be snappy, but at least it's accurate, with seven of our ten most reliable cars hailing from Japan. Three Hondas - the Jazz (3rd), S2000 (7th) and CR-V (8th), join the Toyota MR2 (2nd), Lexus RX3000, Suzuki Ignis (5th) and the Mazda 3 (10th) in the upper echelons of the customer satisfaction league.
But it was a car from the continent rather than the far East that topped the reliability chart. The BMW X3 chugs dependably into first place, with owners finding the SUV's engine and gearbox as sturdy as a rhinoceros bouncer.
It's not a great result overall for the German manufacturers though, with the most reliable Porsche (the 911) placing just 48th. Even bullet-proof Audi can only muster a best placing of 63rd with the old-style TT.
'Which cars are fighting a losing battle against reliability? You guessed it: they're French'
Which cars are fighting a losing battle against reliability? You guessed it: they're French. Eight out of the ten least reliable cars come from across the Channel, with the Peugeot 807 propping up the table.
The dismal people-ferrier is joined by two further Peugeots (the 307 and 407), a pair of Citroens (C3 and C8) and a trio of Renaults (the Megane, Espace and Scenic), with only the Range Rover and Ford S-MAX preventing a Gallic whitewash of the bottom ten.
In fact, the highest place Peugeot can manage is a miserable 134th for the now-defunct 206, while the highest-placing French car is the Renault Modus in, erm, 88th spot. As unreliable as une voiture Française? Malheureusement, oui.
The car’s performance was poor and gave concerns for head and chest protection. Although the 406’s seat-mounted side airbags feature head extensions, the driver’s failed to protect his head and chest effectively. The airbag also did not deploy fully, reducing the cushioning it provides to prevent the driver’s abdomen from striking the inner door panel.
Udah airbagnya byarpet...struktur body kaya krupuk, reliability (what reliability? ) ...mending kalo harga barunya murah. Kalo harga bekasnya...yah...tau sendiri lah...
kalo merujuk itu web euroncap, peogeot bagus dapatnya buat 2009. bintang 5. kelebihannya di safety assist, dari 4 varian 3 diantaranya dapat 97%.
sedang data tentang peogeot 406 dari tahun 2001.
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The body failed to maintain a safety cell for its occupants and the driver’s head was not held safely by the airbag. There were also hard areas under the fascia that could injure his driver’s knees and upper legs. What’s more, the footwell ruptured and this can pose a threat to the driver’s feet.
Kalo kita baca crash test mobil China kaya Geely mungkin expect seperti diatas ya. But no, ini adalah mobil Eropa lumayan modern (2000an). Ini yg katanya "roboust"...eh "robust" ?
Ya itu, makin dijelek2in, makin jatuh harga mobilnya. Yg untung saya2 ini dpt mobil bagus murah lagi. Kalau bisa lanjutin donk bilang Subaru jelek.
Saya pribadi emang gak melirik 405, 307, 807. Sama kayak sya gak akan lirik Cresseda, Camry gen 1, Kijang super dan kapsul, Corolla GL serta Fortuner. Mobil2 payah.
Drivers question French car quality
February 19, 2010
THE RELIABILITY of French cars has been called into question in an international survey of drivers.
Almost a quarter of a million motorists in France, Germany, Switzerland, Brazil and China were asked to name the makes of vehicle they trusted the most.
Even in France, where the survey was carried out by L'Automobile magazine, only 22% of respondents named French brands Citroën, Renault or Peugeot spontaneously when asked for a reliable make of car.
Japanese brands scored best in France - at 67% - followed by German makes including Audi and BMW at 48%.
Respondents in other countries had a similar opinion of French cars: with between 25% and 32% of people considering them reliable.
The survey of 220,000 motorists was carried out by the Motor Presse group, which publishes car magazines around the world.
yang penting hati2lah, dan berdoa memohon terhindar dari kecelakaan...tapi ihtiar mah harus: pasang safety belt, liat tekanan ban, cek lampu2 dan lampu rem, rajin liat tetes menetes cairan rem di kolong mobil, liat indicator tebel kembang ban, kalo sempet liat tebel kampas rem (atau nunggu bunyi jg bisa..he)..kalo jalanan kosong dan memungkinkan sekali kali cek aja hard breaking, rem tangan kudu berfungsi, ...dan nyetir jangan napsu...he he..
nah..pilih mobil yg ada (kalau memungkinkan dan reasonable) abs, airbag dibanding yg gak ada fitur tuh safety atau hasil tes tabraknya bagus, itu termasuk ihtiar kan? walau selalu ada kemungkinan gak berpungsi.....
selaen hal2 yg dijelasin diatas, jgn lupa cek ban.. kalo yg umurnya uda kelewat tua atau uda retak2 mending diganti... jgn jg mo hemat pake ban murahan berdinding tipis (misalnya ban bawaan beberapa mobil sperti lipina, duo kaleng, pret), itung2 itu kaya beli bom waktu, apalagi waktu lg bawa beban berat dan lari kenceng di tol... mending lebihin dikit duitnya buat beli ban yg agak bagusan...
hitutbaw wrote:yang penting hati2lah, dan berdoa memohon terhindar dari kecelakaan...tapi ihtiar mah harus: pasang safety belt, liat tekanan ban, cek lampu2 dan lampu rem, rajin liat tetes menetes cairan rem di kolong mobil, liat indicator tebel kembang ban, kalo sempet liat tebel kampas rem (atau nunggu bunyi jg bisa..he)..kalo jalanan kosong dan memungkinkan sekali kali cek aja hard breaking, rem tangan kudu berfungsi, ...dan nyetir jangan napsu...he he..
nah..pilih mobil yg ada (kalau memungkinkan dan reasonable) abs, airbag dibanding yg gak ada fitur tuh safety atau hasil tes tabraknya bagus, itu termasuk ihtiar kan? walau selalu ada kemungkinan gak berpungsi.....
Ini sudah pasti bener om hitut, cuman di SM ini kan selain iseng buat fun juga tempat berbagi ilmu dan pengalaman. Kalau ada yg bilang X begini...tentu harus ada sumbernya, penelitiannya, surveynya...apa kek. Kok bisa2nya bilang mobil CKD banyak gak jalan airbag/abs nya - sehingga "tidak heran" kalo ada tabrakan mobil CKD tidak nyala airbag/absnya...mana buktinya.
1. Apa karena merasa org Indonesia terlalu tolol untuk instalasi airbag/abs dengan benar?
2. Apa karena produsen mobil menganggap org Indonesia tidak perduli sama keselamatan sehingga ditempel stiker ABS aja udah seneng?
3. Apakah hanya bualan? Soalnya tidak ada satupun bukti yg ditunjukkan untuk mendukung argumennya
masalah 2001 rata2 aja hasil euroncapnya bukan berarti lantas jelek tingkat keamanannya untuk masa sebelum itu. boleh dibandingkan lah tingkat keamanan mobil-mobil prancis ama pabrikan jepang sebelum 2001.
No one’s opinion is more correct than anyone else’s - All have a right to voice their opinions.
If you want to be respected, you need to show respect for others.
DOHC wrote:selaen hal2 yg dijelasin diatas, jgn lupa cek ban.. kalo yg umurnya uda kelewat tua atau uda retak2 mending diganti... jgn jg mo hemat pake ban murahan berdinding tipis (misalnya ban bawaan beberapa mobil sperti lipina, duo kaleng, pret), itung2 itu kaya beli bom waktu, apalagi waktu lg bawa beban berat dan lari kenceng di tol... mending lebihin dikit duitnya buat beli ban yg agak bagusan...
Ini bener juga, tapi kalo pake mobil CKD...terima nasib aja soalnya "banyak gak nyala airbag/abs nya" - jelas lebih aman mobil Prancis CBU...wong cuman pajangan di rumah atau di bengkel aja (alias sering rusak ) - saya gak mau lagi naik taksi Silverbird E200...jangan2 CKD tuh! Mendingan naik taksi Alphard....CBU
