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minggu kemarin adik saya baru dapet musibah nabrakin mobil nyokap honda new accord vtil th2001. Ceritanya abis pulang dugem entah mabok ato knapa katanya si nabrak trotoar, ampe 2 airbagnya keluar..
besoknya saya liat ke bengkel
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mungkin bodi si masih bisa dibenerin..
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tapi setelah liat bagian depannya abis dibongkar...
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chassis kanan bisa diluruskan,ga? cross member (besi yg melintang diantara chasis) emang kudu diganti ya? engine mountingnya ampe miring gitu...
trus buat airbagnya kan cuma sekali pake,bisa gak airbagnya gak usah dipake lagi? coz kalo beli baru mahal bgt,bok.. cuma katanya indikator airbagnya bakalan nyala terus klo airbagnya ga diganti baru..
trus kesimpulan dari para suhu2 disini kira2 mobil nyokap masi bisa kembali normal,ga? ga lari anjing...
mugkin setelah dibenerin rencananya emang mau lgs dijual sih...
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ini saya zoom supaya rekan2 lebih jelas..
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emm... sedan emang nya masi ada chassis yahh kaya kijang :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
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lha trus itu besi kotak di sisi kiri-kanan namanya apa dong,broo..?
emang itu chasis kok... beberapa emang ada yang pake chasis monocoque jadi chasisnya menyatu ama bodinya..
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hoo...sip2... baru tau ane bro... maklum newbie... :big_peace: :big_peace:
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ga percaya ah... pangkat ente kan lebih tinggi... jgn2 cuma ngetes niii..? :big_weee:
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ahh apalah arti sbuah pangkat... :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee: tapi serius ane kaga tau bro... soalnya sblom nya ane pikir tuh yg namanya chassis itu yah sperti di kijang atau panther.... tapi kalo di sedan kaya vios, accord atau altis gt uda kaga pake chassis2 kaya gtuan lagi... jadi yah cuman rangka keseluruhan termasuk dari rangka buat mesin, body dan buat mounting kaki2 nya uda jadi satu....

beda ama chassis kaya di kijang panther gt dimana body mobil "diikat" ke chassis tsb...

btw kalo soal tabrakan, dulu perna nanya ke bengkel body repair, katanya kalo tabrakan parah ampe kena ke tulang mobil, bisa di benerin lagi pake alat namanya car o liner.... cuman ane lupa nanya bisa ga buat sedan...
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sama,saya juga baru tau kok mobil sy ada chasisnya...he2..
saya punya pengalaman CJ-7 saya dulu setelah sy beli ternyata chasisnya bengkok... udah segala macem cara ngelurusin chasisnya.. dipanasin, ditarik2... tapi juga balik lagi... mgkn krn chasis CJ7 emang lentur,ya... untungnya ga sampe lari anjing,si...
klo menurut bro,masi bisa kembali normal gak? paling gak jangan sampe ketauan pembeli pas mo dijual,he2...
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jual ke pedagang aja bro, asalkan kondisi body masi mulus, dan suara mesin masi ok... ohh ac jg masi dingin... dijamin mereka mau beli bro... tapi kalo jual ke pemakai langsung jg mereka kaga nyadar koq... cuman asalkan jarak antara ban dan spakbor utk ban depan kiri dan kanan harus simetris yahh... kadang kan kalo tabrakan kelewat kenceng ampe ke tulang gt bikin jarak antara ban dan spakbor jadi kaga simetris...
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wah...turut prihatin atas musibah yg menimpa adik oom diesel :e-think:
laen kali seh, klo balik dugem mendingan "recovery" dulu oom.......bsa dengan istirahat d mobil....dulu biasanya sy begitu, ato klo udah "kekencengan" mending minta tolong temen nyupirin :upss:

mengenai kekhawatiran mobil tdk bsa kembali ke normal, ini sepenuhnya bergantung pd keahlian bengkel utk ngebenerin......klo bengkelnya jago, keadaan mobil ga bakal beda jauh dengan sebelom kecelakaan ato bahkan tdk berbeda sama sekali.....
akhir 2008 kmaren sy jg sempet kecelakaan di cipularang yg berakibat chasis depan bengkok ke arah kiri......lalu d tangani oleh bengkel d bandung, dan hasilnya sangat2 memuaskan!!! apalagi bengkel tsb msh termasuk bengkel "tradisional" lho, walopun udah cukup terkenal di bdg :frm_tumbright:

so imho, klo liat dr poto2 d atas.....kecelakaan yg d alami msh tergolong "ringan", karena hanya menyebabkan kerusakan d bagian kanan aja....mestinya masih sangat bsa utk d normalkan kembali
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thanx,bro2..
sekarang mari kita bahas airbagnya.. sayang lupa sy foto..
nah, airbag muncul dari setir sama dashboard kiri.. kalo setir mungkin mo saya ganti aja pake racing coz plastik cover airbagnya lgs pecah kedorong airbagnya begitu jg dgn yg di dashboard, covernya pecah juga.. ada gak yg jual cover dashboardnya? trus efeknya klo airbag ga dipasang lg (coz mahal bgt harganya,cm sy blm tau brp persisnya) katanya lampu indikator bakalan nyala terus bahkan kabel lampunya diputus tetep nyala.. ketauan dong bekas nabrak...
anggaran 10 jeti cukup gak,ya? belom2 buat inden cross membernya harganya 5 jeti.. kalo panel bodi samping kiri kira2 abis 2,5jtan.. belum headlamp kiri yg pecah.. apalagi ditambah airbag, kaki2... weleh.....
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oya,mobil bro doq yg kecelakaan dulu apa,ya?
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diesel mania wrote:thanx,bro2..
sekarang mari kita bahas airbagnya.. sayang lupa sy foto..
nah, airbag muncul dari setir sama dashboard kiri.. kalo setir mungkin mo saya ganti aja pake racing coz plastik cover airbagnya lgs pecah kedorong airbagnya begitu jg dgn yg di dashboard, covernya pecah juga.. ada gak yg jual cover dashboardnya? trus efeknya klo airbag ga dipasang lg (coz mahal bgt harganya,cm sy blm tau brp persisnya) katanya lampu indikator bakalan nyala terus bahkan kabel lampunya diputus tetep nyala.. ketauan dong bekas nabrak...
anggaran 10 jeti cukup gak,ya? belom2 buat inden cross membernya harganya 5 jeti.. kalo panel bodi samping kiri kira2 abis 2,5jtan.. belum headlamp kiri yg pecah.. apalagi ditambah airbag, kaki2... weleh.....
bohlam indikator airbagnya di lepas aja oom.......klo susah bsa suruh orang bengkel yg ngerjain(sambil tetep di awasi tentunya), tp klo mo buat jual lagi ga boleh pake bohong2 lho yaaaaaa hehehehe :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

klo anggaran segitu keliatannya msh kurang jauh tuh oom, honda gitu lho......apalagi sekelas accord gini.....amannya di kali 2 aja oom :ungg:
diesel mania wrote:oya,mobil bro doq yg kecelakaan dulu apa,ya?
itu yg ada di signature sy oom, baleno 97.......biaya yg di keluarinnya lbh dr 2x anggaran oom diesel tuh hehehehe :frm_bang_head: :e-wall: biaya ketok2 + cat seh ga terlalu tinggi, tapi part2nya itu lho.......... :frm_bang_head: :e-wall:
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doq wrote:wah...turut prihatin atas musibah yg menimpa adik oom diesel :e-think:
laen kali seh, klo balik dugem mendingan "recovery" dulu oom.......bsa dengan istirahat d mobil....dulu biasanya sy begitu, ato klo udah "kekencengan" mending minta tolong temen nyupirin :upss:
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diesel mania wrote:tapi setelah liat bagian depannya abis dibongkar...
CIMG0231.JPG
chassis kanan bisa diluruskan,ga? cross member (besi yg melintang diantara chasis) emang kudu diganti ya? engine mountingnya ampe miring gitu...
trus buat airbagnya kan cuma sekali pake,bisa gak airbagnya gak usah dipake lagi? coz kalo beli baru mahal bgt,bok.. cuma katanya indikator airbagnya bakalan nyala terus klo airbagnya ga diganti baru..
trus kesimpulan dari para suhu2 disini kira2 mobil nyokap masi bisa kembali normal,ga? ga lari anjing...
mugkin setelah dibenerin rencananya emang mau lgs dijual sih...
Kayaknya masih bisa di alignment lagi, palingan engine mounting nya kalau mau aman di ganti aja.. CMIIW..

Kalau jual mending ke pedagang.. kasihan kalo ke end-user kalau nggak dikasih tau kecelakaan, atau kalau dikasih tau malah nggak mau beli.. :big_peace:
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AD74YA wrote:
doq wrote:wah...turut prihatin atas musibah yg menimpa adik oom diesel :e-think:
laen kali seh, klo balik dugem mendingan "recovery" dulu oom.......bsa dengan istirahat d mobil....dulu biasanya sy begitu, ato klo udah "kekencengan" mending minta tolong temen nyupirin :upss:
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Saran nih kalo pengen mulus seperti sedia kala dibenerinnya di BERES honda aja bro emang agak mahal..Tapi mereka punya alat "pelurus" sasis yang bengkok kyak kejadiaan yg bro alami..Alatnya presisi soalnya pernah dibahas dimana gitu (di majalah) alatnya standard jepun dgn kualitas pengerjaan teknisi terbaik BERES..Just sharing..
Inget bro sasis monokok lebih sulit dibalikin/dilurusin dibanding sasis ladder frame yg tinggal ditarik aja udah bisa lurus..pernah baca juga dimajalah nariknya harus ada tekhnik khusus.. :thanks:
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doq wrote:
AD74YA wrote:
doq wrote:wah...turut prihatin atas musibah yg menimpa adik oom diesel :e-think:
laen kali seh, klo balik dugem mendingan "recovery" dulu oom.......bsa dengan istirahat d mobil....dulu biasanya sy begitu, ato klo udah "kekencengan" mending minta tolong temen nyupirin :upss:
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Ya benar.. monokok lebih sulit karena menyatu ke bodi, sehingga butuh teknik sendiri..
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hmmm... masalahnya udah kadung dibawa adik saya ke bengkel biasa n udh dipretelin.. panel2 samping kiri aja udh selesei di ketok n dempul. rencananya dari si bengkel dia lg inden cross membernya, klo udh dapet ntar engine mountingnya bisa kembali lurus, trus chasisnya diluruskan nyesuaikan ma cross membernya yg baru...
but i think its not easy...
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aldy wrote:Saran nih kalo pengen mulus seperti sedia kala dibenerinnya di BERES honda aja bro emang agak mahal..Tapi mereka punya alat "pelurus" sasis yang bengkok kyak kejadiaan yg bro alami..Alatnya presisi soalnya pernah dibahas dimana gitu (di majalah) alatnya standard jepun dgn kualitas pengerjaan teknisi terbaik BERES..Just sharing..
Inget bro sasis monokok lebih sulit dibalikin/dilurusin dibanding sasis ladder frame yg tinggal ditarik aja udah bisa lurus..pernah baca juga dimajalah nariknya harus ada tekhnik khusus.. :thanks:
ga harus di beres bro...kerjaan beres jg ga menjamin bakal bagus koq.... tuh ipah ane bekas di kerjain di beres toyota aja setelah 2 taon malah kluar gelembung2 kecil cat nya.... ga bisa di claim pula gara2 garansi nya cuman 6 bulan stelah pengerjaan... :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:
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Masalahnya itu alat "pelurus" sasis khusus honda yg punya cuma beres bro..he2 :big_peace:
Iya sih bro ga njamin ane juga baca dimajalah dan kebetulan BERES honda yg diwawancarai..Tapi kalo udah menyangkut sasis kayaknya BERES lebih expert deh..just my opinion
Waduh bro lagi apes kayaknya atau perawatan catnya kurang bro..soalnya ane body repair di Toyota malah puas 100%..Ga nyangka habis penyok ga beraturan..keluar bengkel mulus tanpa ada cela..sampe ane liat dari deket samping kanan-kiri ga ada bedanya sama sama sebelum tabrakan..Kualitas cat top BGT juga kinclong wet look pula..Jadi keliatan kusam malahan bagian cat yg lama..Dan bertahan sampe 3 tahun ga ada masalah ga belang sama sekali..just sharing bro ga mbela2in toyota loh :big_peace: :big_peace: Tau sendiri ane kan Hon lov.. :mrgreen:
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posisi TS dimana ??

kalo mau "ngurut" sasis...salah satu alat yg ternama mereknya Car O Liner......tidak semua beres punya alat ini, hanya beres tertentu atau body repair spesialis...

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thn 1997, saya pernah masukin suzuki escudo milik konsumen ke bengkel Panca Julang Jaya di Pasar Minggu untuk di "urut" pake alat Car O liner. mbl tsb bengkok bagian tengahnya krn kehantam truk tangki .

Hasilnya sasis kembali lurus, mbl gak lari anjing.....salut jg euy.... :frm_tumbright:
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saya di surabaya boss...
cara kerjanya gimana,ya? saya pernah nglurusin chasis cj7 ya mirip gt pake ditarik2.. apa yg bikin beda dibanding cara tradisional,ya?
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diesel mania wrote:saya di surabaya boss...
cara kerjanya gimana,ya? saya pernah nglurusin chasis cj7 ya mirip gt pake ditarik2.. apa yg bikin beda dibanding cara tradisional,ya?
proses kerja sama aja, betot sana sini....tapi alat tsb punya instrumen pengukuran yg teliti, juga dilengkapi dng shackle2 penarik/pendorong yg bermacam2 untuk berbagai kontur yg ada di sasis , sehingga proses betot2an bs dilakukan secara terukur supaya sasis lurus lagi.

ya contohnya seperti gini deh diagram ukur nya :

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waahh,lumayan rumit juga,ya..
klo biayanya kena berapa,yak?
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