All New Jazz Vs Yaris di balap touring indonesia

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:mrgreen:
kan ane bilang akhirannya Fxx atau Gxx... :mrgreen:
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E=engine..... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: sorry bro
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walah????

Yaris kalah?? Serius nih?? :e-think:

Coba di beberin spesifikasi ubahan nya apa aja sih di masing2 mobil.. Ada yang tau?
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abrof wrote:E=engine..... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: sorry bro
E kayanya indikasi EFI di toyota..
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AD74YA wrote:walah????

Yaris kalah?? Serius nih?? :e-think:

Coba di beberin spesifikasi ubahan nya apa aja sih di masing2 mobil.. Ada yang tau?
kebebasan dan batasan ubahan mesin diperlakukan sama/fair untuk setiap pihak.
cuma dari dulu, jazz kena beban tambahan lebih berat dari yaris, walaupun yaris asalnya udah lebih ringan.
mungkin sampe jazz kalah, baru deh stop ditambah bebannya.
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GTR wrote:
abrof wrote:E=engine..... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: sorry bro
E kayanya indikasi EFI di toyota..
hmmm,, seperti 7K dan 7KE di kijang,,
Permisii :ungg: ............................. :ngacir:
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GTR wrote:
AD74YA wrote:walah????

Yaris kalah?? Serius nih?? :e-think:

Coba di beberin spesifikasi ubahan nya apa aja sih di masing2 mobil.. Ada yang tau?
kebebasan maupun batasan ubahan mesin diperlakukan sama untuk setiap pihak.
cuma dari dulu, jazz kena beban tambahan lebih berat dari yaris, walaupun yaris asalnya udah lebih ringan.
mungkin sampe jazz kalah, baru deh stop ditambah bebannya.
emang kenapa jazz harus lebih berat??
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maskopat wrote:
GTR wrote:
AD74YA wrote:walah????

Yaris kalah?? Serius nih?? :e-think:

Coba di beberin spesifikasi ubahan nya apa aja sih di masing2 mobil.. Ada yang tau?
kebebasan dan batasan ubahan mesin diperlakukan sama/fair untuk setiap pihak.
cuma dari dulu, jazz kena beban tambahan lebih berat dari yaris, walaupun yaris asalnya udah lebih ringan.
mungkin sampe jazz kalah, baru deh stop ditambah bebannya.
emang kenapa jazz harus lebih berat??
biar yarisnya compete / bisa menang juga..
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GTR wrote:
maskopat wrote: emang kenapa jazz harus lebih berat??
biar yarisnya compete / bisa menang juga..
lah, emang regulasinya gitu? koq bisa beda bobot? gak fair dong..
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maskopat wrote:
GTR wrote:
maskopat wrote: emang kenapa jazz harus lebih berat??
biar yarisnya compete / bisa menang juga..
lah, emang regulasinya gitu? koq bisa beda bobot? gak fair dong..
yg penting kan seru, show kalo yg menang itu2 aja ga seru.
udah biasa digituin. dulu, NSX yg menang trus di seri balapan apa yah, oo ini dari bro midiamp:
Midi_Amp wrote:Buat balapan SuperGT (d/h JGTC). Sebenernya Honda udah ikutan dari tahun 90an, tapi ada ceritanya... Tapi ada pendiskreditan beberapa pihak dan berhubungan website yang memuat berita itu gak bisa gw temuin lagi... Ya dah, biarkanlah berlalu. Intinya Honda dicurangin dan NSX jadi amburadul di balapan SuperGT. Akhirnya terpaksa mengeluarkan NSX-R GT untuk homologasi. Hasilnya, NSX kompetitif lagi dan tahun 2007 kemaren akhirnya memenangkan lagi SuperGT.
Midi_Amp wrote:Menurut artikel yang gw baca itu, badan regulasi yang membuat aturan terdiri dari kompetitor Honda. Alhasil aturan yang dibuat sangat merugikan mobil-mobil rendah, pendek, enteng dengan konfigurasi mesin MR... Apalagi mobil yang seperti itu kecuali Honda NSX?
Sekarang juga kena lagi nih, ga bisa ngelak kali ini harus angkat kaki
tau2 SuperGT500 muncul peraturan mesti format FR mulai 2010, retire lah NSX format MR 500hp yg udah pole 49 kali dan menang 36 kali. lawannya? GTR R35 4500cc, lexus SC430..
dipaksa pake s2000 buat vs nyang 500hp lain2 kali... udah cape lah dia.., udah tuir sih, juga s2000 tuh.
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GTR wrote:
AD74YA wrote:walah????

Yaris kalah?? Serius nih?? :e-think:

Coba di beberin spesifikasi ubahan nya apa aja sih di masing2 mobil.. Ada yang tau?
kebebasan dan batasan ubahan mesin diperlakukan sama/fair untuk setiap pihak.
cuma dari dulu, jazz kena beban tambahan lebih berat dari yaris, walaupun yaris asalnya udah lebih ringan.
mungkin sampe jazz kalah, baru deh stop ditambah bebannya.
Wah wah wah.. baru tau nih ada susu kayak gini... :e-clap: Luar biasa berarti ya teknologi mesin Honda Jazz :e-clap: :frm_salut:

Atau harusya pertanyaannya ada apa dengan yaris ya? :mrgreen:

Menarik juga ternyata pembahasan ini..

Lanjut oom GeTaR!! :upss:
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wah......banyak ilmu neh.........baca lg deh biar lbh ngerti ane............. :ungg:
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btw pertanyaan sy blom ada yg jawab ney....................swift msh berlaga d kejuaraan turing ini ga ya?
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selain jazz yg tersisa cuman toyota.....itupun cuman satu tim....dan tim ini yang mengajukan penambahan bobot buat jazz sebesar 20kg lagi jadi totalnya jazz kena tambahan berat 45 kg alasannya tertinggal 1,5 detik per lap....
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andai mitikus masukin colt nya... apalagi yang ralliart... bakal seru nih persaingannya...
yang ada yaris harus diet 50kg... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Ada kabar terbaru loh honda jazz semakin menguasai race gara2 ECU Mugen (konon dari sumber terpercaya njezz udah tembus up to 170 dk gara2 pake ECU ini power up 20 dk)http://www.otomotifnet.com/otoweb/index ... 0/1/7/7169 hayoo itu mobilnya siapa) he2..Walah2 ayo toyota masak kalah sama honda.. :big_smoking: Masak diasepin terus ama jazz..he2 :big_peace:
Oiya tuh diberita bilangnya cuma 153 HP kan belum Exhaustnya diganti sama pake free air filter dll jadi bisa sampe 170 HP..
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Maaf2 nih udah jadul info ane diatas ga baca ujungnya thread ini sih.. :big_peace: :big_peace:
Ane nambahin ini aja (http://www.otomotifnet.com/otoweb/index ... 0/1/7/3327) biar tambah puyeng sesepuh disini..he2 :big_smoking:
Kok bisa ya tuh mesin DOHC swift n DOHC yaris udah dioprek 5 item lebih powernya ga jauh beda ama jazz (bahkan swift ga bisa nglewatin powernya jazz) yang cuma dioprek 4 item aja bayangin kalo jazz udah dioprek 5 item lebih bisa2 tembus tuh 150 dk..he2..Ada apa dengan mesin honda gampang bgt di improve powernya dengan sedikit modifikasi..??
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Salam..
Wah makin ramai nih membahas balap turing In donesia, semoga balap di Indonesia tetap akan maju..
Gw, salah satu peserta balap turing mau sedikit memberi info Komparasi Swift, Yaris and Jazz (Anj skr)

ALL NEW JAZZ : Ok, Jelas...Jazz unggul mesin (i-vtec, ini emang bikin puyeng VVt-i) lalu chasis & system suspensi.....kudu diingat balap turing bukan cuma urusan mesin tok, chasis dan suspensi serta distribusi bobot justru yang paling berperan utama. Nah ANJ itu punya semuanya, maksudnya nearly perfect, Hp mesin paling gede,ratio gearbox pas, mobil buat beloknya enak (at least lbh enak dr versi lama), Pwr-nya cakep, titik berat depan-belakang seimbang, Braking power & distributionnya bagus dan yg paling pol racing partsnya banyak, mau brand opo wae akeh.
Apalagi ECU pake Mugen. Basic mesinnya ajah Yaris & Swift memang sudah kalah tenaga, jadi klo regulasinya ga di batasi memang lama-lama semua balapan akan jadi OMR Jazz...
Satu hal, rata-rata2x mesin Honda emang kencang (sudah dr oroknya begitu), dan buat balap aspal, Honda memang advantagenya disitu.

YARIS : Sebenernya memang ga ada yg salah dr mobil ini. Kecil mungil bertenaga, tapi ...ada tapinya..Justru Yaris ini paling sulit di setting suspensinya, kudu puyeng setting suspensinya serta perlu waktu lbh utk adaptasi bawa mobil ini buat racing krn jauh lbh rumit, dgn kata lain Yaris susah belok..Makin parah dengan distribusi bobot mobilnya yg ga bagus dan yg ga enak ternyata mobilnya memang berat!!!.
Dr engine, mesinnya sih OK, bertenaga, VVT-i Gitu apalagi dgn ECU TOM's...namun ratio gearboxnya terlalu cepat bikin mesin teriak (Final gear terlalu besar di banding Vios lama), jadi susah untuk "mapping" mesinnya. Parts racingnya, cukup banyak namun memang ga sebanyak Honda.
Satu hal, ga ada yg salah dgn mesin 1NZ-FE cuma memang sdh kalah tehnologi, ga peduli dia sdh DOHC

SWIFT : Ini mobil THE BEST HANDLING EVER...ga ada mobil sekelasnya yg bisa ngalahin ini mobil untuk soal Handling (utk saat ini)..Buat balap, bisa dibikin kek di rel!!! Suspensi paling eces di setel krn mobilnya sendiri memang sdh memberikan feeling yg pas buat balap.Lalu kalo terjadi unwanted condition (Cth : Melintir) gampang banget di koreksi..pokoknya umpama di kasih suspensi yang setingkat di bawah Jazz Or Yaris itu dengan kondisi mesin mirip, ini mobil masih bisa ngelawan, urusan handlingnya krn paling presisi, weight distributionnya juga bagus.
Namun, namanya balap ya tentu tetap butuh power..Nah si Swify ini jelas paling "UNYIL" untuk urusan tenaga, mau handlingnya keren kek klo mesinnya loyo kasarnya keluar tikungan & di trek lurus ajah perlu waktu lbh lama khan???.Balik lagi ke DOHC, ini sdh DOHC tapi tetep Hpnya paling mini sdh gitu range tenaganya juga sempit tdk kek Jazz or Yaris, blom lagi ECUnya termasuk sulit untuk di modifikasi, pihak Suzuki Sport pernah di hub untuk masalah ECU ini, namun jawabannya kurang enak. Spare parts kompetisi lain juga ga sebanyak Jazz. Jadilah mobil ini cuma untuk "meramaikan balapan". Jadi, biar bisa ikut lagi tentu regulasi turut berperan penting.
Satu hal, mobil ini cocok untuk pemula yg mau belajar balap dan it's fun to drive this car around circuit, but it's not fun if u plan to fight in front...heheheh..at least until now

Segitu saja dulu infonya
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Yg seru skr khan kita ketambahan Mazda-2...kira2x Ok ga yah di pakai balap turing???
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^^
mantap review nya bro... happy to read that...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Oh gitu ya bro..Pantes jazz menguasai..Nice info.. :off_good:
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buat saya yg nubie br belajar nyupir...mendingan swift aja deh....gak usah kenceng2 yg penting bagus di tikungan..... :mrgreen:
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@widnug: woooooow.......nice review oom kueren..... :mrgreen:

ternyata swift yg handlingnya paling bagusd antara ke 3 nya ya, sayang d tebues dg power yg paling kecil jg d antara ke 3 nya :ungg:

ada yg punya perbandingan spek standar masing2 mobil (curb weight-hp-jarak sumbu-ratio final gear dll)?
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tapi malah diantara tuh 3 merek, cuman swift yg ada paket turbo resmi dari suzuki nya... plus intercooler pula...
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sayang ya.............klo aja suzuki sport mendukung penuh........ :ungg:
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umm......oot bentar niy, d sentl sendiri ada kelas "iseng2 happy go lucky" bwat mobil std ga yaaaaa :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

klo ada regulasinya macam apa yaa :ungg: :ungg:
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