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HELP !! tegangan turun ketka lampu+ac nyala

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para suhu tlg bantu saya dong
ada yg tau ga faktor2 penyebab2 tegangan turun ketka lampu+ac nyala
mbl sy mazda baby boomer 93 udah tambah kabell massa 7 ttik pk kabel awg 8 soundstream
apa ic alternator ? apa kabel 2 mesti dibersihkan saja cukup? atau korslet?
trima kasih banya sblmnya untuk para suhu 2
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omm poetic & om sjamsul dimohon maju ke tampil.... :big_peace:

oh ya..om sofan jg sebagai pemilik vantrend mungkin bisa sharing, secara bboomer & vantrend kan basicnya sama (CMIIW)
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omm poetic & om sjamsul dimohon maju ke tampil.... :big_peace:

oh ya..om sofan jg sebagai pemilik vantrend mungkin bisa sharing, secara bboomer & vantrend kan basicnya sama (CMIIW)
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salam kenal om.. welcome to SM..

tegangan turun waktu ac dan lampu nyala sih emang biasa terjadi di mobil..
biasanya, kalo di 2000RPM mesin idup tanpa listrik lain menyala, tegangan di atas 13 volt-an..
tapi ketika AC, lampu nyala, biasanya tegangan sekitar 13 volt..

mudah2an propesor aki bisa ngasih komentar nih..
atau lihat di tret ini:
http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... =18&t=8835 atau http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... f=4&t=9311

semoga membantu... :frm_salut:
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daudrestu wrote:para suhu tlg bantu saya dong
ada yg tau ga faktor2 penyebab2 tegangan turun ketka lampu+ac nyala
mbl sy mazda baby boomer 93 udah tambah kabell massa 7 ttik pk kabel awg 8 soundstream
apa ic alternator ? apa kabel 2 mesti dibersihkan saja cukup? atau korslet?
trima kasih banya sblmnya untuk para suhu 2
( wlp ane belon merasa jadi suhu, tp ane coba kasih jawaban ).......


maksudnya tegangan turun itu apa ya...... apakah lampu kurang terang tanpa digas n lbh terang setelah pedal gas ditekan ato gimana ya...... :e-think: ...

nt dah tambahkan kabel masa 7 titik...... tp dari akinya berapa titik ya...... klo dari aki cuma 1 titik ato satu kabel, trus kabel tsb dibagi2 lagi.... kurang bagus, so sebaiknya dari aki ditambahkan lbh dari satu, misalkan 2 ato 3 titik...... dari situ baru dibagi2 lagi......... ato klo mau yg simpel.... dari aki cukup 2 kabel aja, tp minimal yg ukuran 16 m/m sq.....yg satu ke body sedangkan yg satu lagi ke engine......n perhatikan pula cara jepit terminalnya... jangan asal2an, spy arus bisa mengalir dg baik.......

masalah alternator.... ga ada salahnya diperiksa ke tukangnya...........
kabel2 di kepala aki sebaiknya dibersihkan secara berkala, spy ga timbul putih2 spt garam gituu....

sama2......

smoga bermanfaat.............
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aha...om sjam udah datang.... :cupss:

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jalu wrote:aha...om sjam udah datang.... :cupss:

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iya nih...... duuuhhh....... tumben nih..... :cupss: nya terasa lbh gimanaaaaaa gituu...... wakakakaka....... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: .....
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IMO nggak ada salahnya pake vitamin aki, dijamin voltase aki semakin tok cer deh! :off_good:
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esh wrote:IMO nggak ada salahnya pake vitamin aki, dijamin voltase aki semakin tok cer deh! :off_good:
apa tuh vitamin aki?? gimana pakenya? supirnya yang minum, dinamonya, atau akinya? :e-think: :e-think:
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esh wrote:IMO nggak ada salahnya pake vitamin aki, dijamin voltase aki semakin tok cer deh!
vitamin aki ? menyimak ahh
daudrestu wrote:para suhu tlg bantu saya dong
ada yg tau ga faktor2 penyebab2 tegangan turun ketka lampu+ac nyala
mbl sy mazda baby boomer 93 udah tambah kabell massa 7 ttik pk kabel awg 8 soundstream
apa ic alternator ? apa kabel 2 mesti dibersihkan saja cukup? atau korslet?
trima kasih banya sblmnya untuk para suhu 2
tegangan ngedrop, itu sudah biasa, karena degradasi alat yg sekian lama beropersi. sebenarnya sih banyak faktor yg menyebabkan tegangan drop, bisa jadi aki ato wiringnya ato alternator yg degradasi. klu alternatornya coba dicekin ke bengkel, bisa jadi karena lahernya, ato carbon brusnya, ato memang ic/rangkaian elektronik didalamnya sudah nggak stabil outputnya.
pengalaman pribadi ane dulu sih sempet ngganti laher ama carbon brush (murah aja koq, dulu carbon brush sekitar 10 ribuan yang mahal ongkos bongkar pasangnya he.. he..)

katanya ada produk dc stabilizer yg intinya menstabilkan arus dc kelistrikan kendaraan mungkin ada yg ngasih pencerahan.
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kalo aki & sistem pengisian sudah dicek bagus....ada baiknya diganti kabel2 untuk semobil tsb (kabel set)....krn kabel yang menua tentunya kemampuan hantar listriknya sudah menurun (plus soket2 yang udah mulai kotor/berkerak)....kalo merek suz/toy setau saya sih banyak dijual kabel setnya sudah komplit dengan soket2 dan panjangnya sudah pas (sama dengan bawaan mbl tsb), entah kalo merek mazda ada gak ya ? :e-think:
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hmmmmmm.................. sdh lbh dari 24 jam ga ada tanggapan dari sang TS............................... :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: ...................
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sjamsul wrote:hmmmmmm.................. sdh lbh dari 24 jam ga ada tanggapan dari sang TS............................... :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: ...................
hayooo...om sjam kangen sama TS ya...jangan2 kalo TS nya muncul mau di :cupss: ....

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jalu wrote:
sjamsul wrote:hmmmmmm.................. sdh lbh dari 24 jam ga ada tanggapan dari sang TS............................... :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: ...................
hayooo...om sjam kangen sama TS ya...jangan2 kalo TS nya muncul mau di :cupss: ....

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wakakakakaka...... ga juga jal....... ane khan sekedar mo tau aja... :upss:
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iya sekedar mau tau....maksudnya mau di :cupss: apa nggak...itu kan..?? :upss:

om sjam...di SM udah pernah dibahas blm tentang lampu2 kelistrikan ? saya lg cari2 refrensi ttg lampu sein. :e-think:
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jalu wrote:iya sekedar mau tau....maksudnya mau di :cupss: apa nggak...itu kan..?? :upss:

om sjam...di SM udah pernah dibahas blm tentang lampu2 kelistrikan ? saya lg cari2 refrensi ttg lampu sein. :e-think:
hooh aja dehhh..... biar ga cape nulisnye....... wakakakakakaka........ :big_weee: ...


emang ada masalah apa dg lampu sein nt jal...... :e-think: ...
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Yang saya bisa bedakan setelah diisi vitamin aki suara klakson lebih garang dan starter lebih ringan. Untuk lebih jelasnya silahkan tanya langsung ke pakarnya yaitu om sjamsul. :D
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gak ada masalah kok om sjam...cuma ya perlu pencerahan aja ttg prinsip kerja flasher, bedanya flasher elektrik (kotak) & yang non elektrik (biasanya bulet n murah), trus pengaruh beban lampu thdp flasher, juga kenapa frekuensi kedipan sein tiap mbl beda2...gitu aja kok om...gak banyak kan ? :mrgreen:
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jalu wrote:gak ada masalah kok om sjam...cuma ya perlu pencerahan aja ttg prinsip kerja flasher, bedanya flasher elektrik (kotak) & yang non elektrik (biasanya bulet n murah), trus pengaruh beban lampu thdp flasher, juga kenapa frekuensi kedipan sein tiap mbl beda2...gitu aja kok om...gak banyak kan ? :mrgreen:
hmmm..... klo ane jawab...ntar dibilang OOT, tp klo ga dijawab..... ane ga tega ama dik jala..... ehhhh dik jalu....... so ane pilih jawab aja dehh....


gini dik jalu..... mengenai lampu sein..... nt ga usah berpikir tentang cara kerjanye, krn percuma ane jelasin panjang lebar, tp ga bakalan kepake ama nt...........(pura2 tau cara kerja flasher, padahal ane juga ga tau)................ :frm_bang_head: .....

So yg penting adalah saat ganti lampu sein, perhatikan watt nya..... krn klo beda watt dg aslinya, mk kedipan di lampu sein akan lebih cepat dari biasanya.............spt lampu sein ada yg putus gituuuu....... selain itu diperhatikan juga merknya..... klo merk yg abal2... wlp tulisan wattnya sama, belon tentu watt nya murni... jadi sebaiknya diganti dg merk yg bagus.......... :e-whistle:
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oke deh..berarti yg beban lampu ada pengaruhnya buat kedipan sein.... :frm_salut:

hmm...justru perbedaan flasher saya jg penasaran oom...karena dulu waktu kijang ane flashernya diganti sama model bulet yang murah (merek niles) kok bisa...padahal jumlah kaki konektornya beda ? :e-think:

kalo flasher asli bunyi keras tek..tok..tek..tok...sedangkan yg bulet murah itu malah sepi...tapi frekuensi kedipannya lbh cepet...kumaha eta om ? :ungg:
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jalu wrote:oke deh..berarti yg beban lampu ada pengaruhnya buat kedipan sein.... :frm_salut:

hmm...justru perbedaan flasher saya jg penasaran oom...karena dulu waktu kijang ane flashernya diganti sama model bulet yang murah (merek niles) kok bisa...padahal jumlah kaki konektornya beda ? :e-think:

kalo flasher asli bunyi keras tek..tok..tek..tok...sedangkan yg bulet murah itu malah sepi...tapi frekuensi kedipannya lbh cepet...kumaha eta om ? :ungg:
betul....

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@sjam:
thanks pencerahannya oom.... :cupss:

@mandala :
premen bedane flahser asli (kotak) lan sing murah (bulet)...bengen tak coba ning kijang bisa urip jeh..padahal sikile sejen....??? :e-think:
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sjamsul wrote:hmmmmmm.................. sdh lbh dari 24 jam ga ada tanggapan dari sang TS............................... :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: ...................
Kalo sampe lebih dari 2x24 jam mesti lapor RT/RW tuh om...... hihihihi..... :ngacir:
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kalo TS tegangannya turun ketika lampu nyala....tapi kalo om sjam kebalik....tegangannya naik ketika lampu dikamar redup/mati....kira2 kenapa ya ? :roll:

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jalu wrote:kalo TS tegangannya turun ketika lampu nyala....tapi kalo om sjam kebalik....tegangannya naik ketika lampu dikamar redup/mati....kira2 kenapa ya ? :roll:

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