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Apakah mobil yg udh ABS selalu cakram depan belakang?

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Bro, sesuai judul, gw mo nanya

apakah mobil yg udh ABS pasti remnya cakram depan belakang?

cOz gw pernah liat aerio di kaca belakang ada simbol ABS, yg berarti itu mbl dah pake ABS, tapi gw liat kok rem belakangnya masih pake tromol ya?

bukannya ABS itu harus cakram depan belakang??
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kebetulan saya ada grand vitara, sudah ABS tapi rem depan cakram, blkg tromol.....selain itu di tempat kerja ada truk kenworth dan peterbilt...itu jg sudah ABS tapi rem nya tromol semua...

let the expert explains to us.... :big_peace:
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ga mesti bro sofan,, contoh gampangnya kita liat mobil sejuta umat ajah si innova (yg type V udah ABS) tetep depan cakram blk drum :)
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Innova V, New Vios E, GV old, Aerio... itu beberapa yg gw tau ABS tapi belakang tromol..

Old Vios E malah belakang cakram tapi gak ABS.. jadi cakram or tromol has nothing to do with ABS or not..
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ok i see..

makasi byk buat semua bro-bro atas penjelasannya..

buat bro jalu, hal ini msh berkaitan dgn topic sy sebelumnya ttg luxio.., ada opsi penambahan ABS dgn harga 3 juta.

is it worthed? bila diaplikasikan pada tranmisi manual? krn renc sy ambil luxio manual...


dan seberapa efektif kah ABS dapat melindungi kita dari hard brake fatal accident?
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sofan wrote:ok i see..

makasi byk buat semua bro-bro atas penjelasannya..

buat bro jalu, hal ini msh berkaitan dgn topic sy sebelumnya ttg luxio.., ada opsi penambahan ABS dgn harga 3 juta.

is it worthed? bila diaplikasikan pada tranmisi manual? krn renc sy ambil luxio manual...
baik mobil manual atau matic...kehadiran ABS bisa menambah safety kendaraan khususnya saat pengereman panik, tetapi mengenai harganya saya jg gelap sama sekali, apakah memang segitu harga opsi tsb ? :e-think: dan biasanya mobil yang sudah ber-ABS itu dr proses asemblingnya memang sudah dilengkapi (CMIIW), tapi kok ini dibikin opsi terpisah ? :roll:

ada baiknya jika ditanyakan lbh detail ke salesnya, kepala bengkelnya atau kalo perlu ke sales supv. di diler tsb, apakah ini memang ABS original dr daihatsu luxio atau cuma barang aftermarket, sebab setau saya di pasaran jg dijual ABS tambahan, bentuknya seperti tabung kecil dan dipasang dijalur minyak rem, "diklaim" bs mencegah rem mengunci dng mengatur aliran minyak rem.

mungkin ada temen2 lain yang bisa bantu ? :big_peace:
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Bisa di kasih pencerahan,ciri fisik sistem ABS itu apa....atau dalam arti kata lain teknik pengereman ABS bisa di aplikasikan ke berbagai jenis rem,tromol maupun cakram. :e-think: ?
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sofan wrote:ok i see..

makasi byk buat semua bro-bro atas penjelasannya..

buat bro jalu, hal ini msh berkaitan dgn topic sy sebelumnya ttg luxio.., ada opsi penambahan ABS dgn harga 3 juta.

is it worthed? bila diaplikasikan pada tranmisi manual? krn renc sy ambil luxio manual...


dan seberapa efektif kah ABS dapat melindungi kita dari hard brake fatal accident?

kalo kualitasnya bener-bener bagus atau merupak original equipment harga 3 juta sangat murah sekali.... karena disamping susah kalo harus pasang sendiri ABS dengan kualitas pemasangan yang bagus dan harganya juga mahal banget... untuk sekedar ABS.. blum BA apalagi EBD
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Harganya meragukan kwalitasnya ... :D
Kalo beneran sih, murah sekaleeee....
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Selisih harga Avanza G (tanpa ABS) dgn Avanza S (dgn ABS) sekitar 10jt. Memang selain ABS banyak perbedaan, tapi paling2 acessories doank (selain mesin ya). Jadi kalu memang ABSnya bagus, seharusnya nambahnya banyak
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mesinnya aja beda 1300cc ama 1500cc bos anjas.. hehehe....
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Sudah sy tanyakan langsung pada bagian engineering daihatsu, ABS yg ditawarkan dgn harga 3 juta adalah komponen original daihatsu. Rem belakang tetap model tromol.

Tadi sy kebetulan juga dikasih unit TD lagi yg kebetulan udah ABS. Sy coba rem mendadak dari kecepatan skitar 60 kpj di jalanan yg licin & hujan, hasilnya ok... dlm artian tdk ada gejala skiding & pakem.

Btw, avanza G non ABS & avanza S ABS dgn selisih 10 juta berarti bener tuh bro... 10 juta pada type S mendapatkan engine 1500cc+ABS+parking sensor+accessories, kalo dikira2 berarti harga ABS nya doang bisa sekitar 3 jutaan juga... sama dgn ABS luxio bro...imho lho....
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kalo emang bener itu abs oem diahatsu.....recommend untuk dibeli.... :frm_tumbright:
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luxio aja ada ABS, murah pula... sedangkan livina cuman di varian tertinggi, inova pun jg di varian tertinggi, dan harganya pun jg jauh lebi tinggi dari luxio... aduhh gmana nehh, malu donkk tuh TAM, NMI ama si daihatsu....
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memantau ah.. menarik nih.. pengen tau banyak tentang ABS :ungg:
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DOHC wrote:luxio aja ada ABS, murah pula... sedangkan livina cuman di varian tertinggi, inova pun jg di varian tertinggi, dan harganya pun jg jauh lebi tinggi dari luxio... aduhh gmana nehh, malu donkk tuh TAM, NMI ama si daihatsu....
untuk jazz yg varian pertama, sepertinya fitur ABS juga hanya ada di varian tertingginya bro,, :roll:
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jalu wrote:kalo emang bener itu abs oem diahatsu.....recommend untuk dibeli.... :frm_tumbright:
DOHC wrote:luxio aja ada ABS, murah pula... sedangkan livina cuman di varian tertinggi, inova pun jg di varian tertinggi, dan harganya pun jg jauh lebi tinggi dari luxio... aduhh gmana nehh, malu donkk tuh TAM, NMI ama si daihatsu....
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DOHC wrote:luxio aja ada ABS, murah pula... sedangkan livina cuman di varian tertinggi, inova pun jg di varian tertinggi, dan harganya pun jg jauh lebi tinggi dari luxio... aduhh gmana nehh, malu donkk tuh TAM, NMI ama si daihatsu....
untuk jazz yg varian pertama, sepertinya fitur ABS juga hanya ada di varian tertingginya bro,, :roll:

Wahh,... berarti pada sisi safety luxio boleh diadu dong.... o ya, ada opsion tambahan parking sensor 4 biji di bumper belakang utk tipe M (tengah2) & X (tertinggi)

JAdi pingin buru2 order neeeeehhhh.....

Besok ah........ :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Mungkin ini salah satu perwujudan dari daihatsu menyambut "turunnya harga jual mobil baru"...... :frm_tumbright:
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nescafe wrote:
DOHC wrote:luxio aja ada ABS, murah pula... sedangkan livina cuman di varian tertinggi, inova pun jg di varian tertinggi, dan harganya pun jg jauh lebi tinggi dari luxio... aduhh gmana nehh, malu donkk tuh TAM, NMI ama si daihatsu....
untuk jazz yg varian pertama, sepertinya fitur ABS juga hanya ada di varian tertingginya bro,, :roll:
nes, Jazz lo kan tipe S kan? emang ada ABS nya??? qeqeqeqe
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o iya, waktu nyoba ngerem mendadak pake kuxio abs kmaren kok pedal rem ga endut2an ya?

katanya biasanya berasa endut2an gitu ya kalo nginjek rem dalem2 pake abs?
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bukan endut2an.. tapi bergetar bos... dan itu gak boleh dikocok.. kalo bergetar harus tetep ditahan ngeremnya....
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datsu wrote:bukan endut2an.. tapi bergetar bos... dan itu gak boleh dikocok.. kalo bergetar harus tetep ditahan ngeremnya....

iya bro, bener, yg gw tau jg gitu, cuman pas gw coba pake luxio abs kmaren kok gejala getar itu ga ada ya? gw ngerem mendadak dari speed skitar 60kpj di jalan aspal & lagi hujan. Berhentinya sih pakem, & ga ada gejala skiding/ban selip, cuman pedal rem gw rasain kok ga begetar ya?

apakah gejala getar tdk selalu tjd ?
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dari 60 kpj ngerem mendadak mah gak geter bro...itu artinya ABSnya belom nyala karena emang belom ada yang perlu diatur alirannya.. kalo masalah skiding apa gak yang ngatur itu modul EBD nya... kalo luxio ABS+EBD bukan??

coba dari 120 kpj.... mau lebih asik sensasi getarnya coba dari 150kpj... :big_peace:
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datsu wrote:dari 60 kpj ngerem mendadak mah gak geter bro...itu artinya ABSnya belom nyala karena emang belom ada yang perlu diatur alirannya.. kalo masalah skiding apa gak yang ngatur itu modul EBD nya... kalo luxio ABS+EBD bukan??

coba dari 120 kpj.... mau lebih asik sensasi getarnya coba dari 150kpj... :big_peace:
bro, 60 kpj ngerem mendadak di jalanan aspal pas lg hujan lho.. gw kira semua mbl pasti akan skiding/ngepot/ban selip...kalo ga pake abs

btw ebd itu kan electronic brake force distribution tho?

kekuatan ngerem masing2 roda di adjust secara otomais gitu ya?

luxio cuman abs aja bro

emang kalo abs + ebd kalo ngerem mendadak keuntungan selain tdk selip & pakem apa lagi bro?
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setau gw ya bro, cuman ilmu pribadi aja,

EBD itu lah yang bikin gak slip dan jarak ngerem jadi pendek, karena ketika dia mendeteksi ada slip di satu roda, energi remnya akan dialihkan ke roda lain. Jadi yang di slip tenaganya akan dikurangi, yang butuh lebih akan dilebihin.. jadi yang bagi2 tenaga ngerem lah.. sesuai namanya...

Kalo ABS itu hanya untuk menjaga supaya rem tidak mengunci pas ngerem dadakan yang berakibat setir juga jd ngunci karena bannya ngesot...

tapi itu pengetahuan pribadi lho.. CMIIW...

kalo masalah ngerem alhamdulillah selama ini dri 80 kpj saat ujan pun gw gak ngesot dan gak getar remnya...pdhl sudah ABS+EBD...
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