Nissan Murano!

conan · Post by **conan** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 16:22

I'm not into SUVs, and while I'm into sports cars, the Nissan 350Z just doesn't do it for me. But I'm hooked with this Murano, I don't know why. This is a Harrier-beater, I say

What do you guys think of it?

conan · Post by **conan** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 16:25

Unlike most cars, the gauges don't come with a 'hood', I think it makes the cabin feels airy and lots of glass around. Nice for a change

mpoezz · Post by **mpoezz** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 18:19

kayak nya sangar nih sainagan sih harier juga.eh si x5 ama x3, ama ML

Chalupa · Post by **Chalupa** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 20:48

Saya suka Nissan Murano ini, saya juga suka brothernya si Infiniti FX series.

http://www.infiniti.com/content/0,,cid- ... 01,00.html

Chalupa · Post by **Chalupa** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:04

Ini ada update berita mengenai Nissan Murano untuk kawasan Asia. Pihak Nissan Motor Indonesia mengatakan bahwa mereka saat ini masih belum ada rencana untuk memasukkan Nissan Murano ke Indonesia anytime soon. Sayang sekali jikalau pihak Nissan Motor Indonesia sampai akhirnya tidak memasukkan Nissan Murano ke Indonesia.

Nissan incar impor Murano

(15/09/2004) - Agen Nissan di Thailand mempertimbangkan mendatangkan high-end model untuk melambungkan citra Nissan di segmen sedan dan SUV.

Model yang akan didatangkan Siam Nissan Automobile termasuk SUV Murano yang sudah dipasarkan di USA dan mulai dipasarkan di Jepang (akhir tahun ini) dan Eropa (tahun depan). Model ini akan berhadapan dengan Lexus RX330 dan Volvo XC90. Murano sendiri menggunakan mesin 3.5 liter V6.

Model lain yang dipertimbangkan adalah Fuga, sedan eksekutif yang disiapkan menggantikan Cedric/Gloria. Sedan dengan penggerak roda belakang ini dikenal juga sebagai Infiniti M di USA.

Menggunakan mesin yang sama dengan Murano, Fuga akan bersaing dengan Jaguar S-Type 3.0, Lexus GS300 dan BMW 530i. Bila akhirnya Nissan mendatangkan kedua model itu, paling cepat tahun 2006.

Teddy Irawan, deputy director national sales & promotion PT Nissan Motor Indonesia mengaku saat ini masih belum mempertimbangkan akan mendatangkan kedua model itu. "Saat ini dengan empat model saja kami ngos-ngosan memenuhi permintaan kosumen," katanya. Selain itu, harus dipertimbangkan juga bahwa model yang didatangkan selain meningkatkan citra Nissan juga harus ada kompensasi pada volume penjualan. (mobilku.com)

conan · Post by **conan** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:18

Bung Chalupa, baru saja aku mau post berita itu

Itulah perbedaan mentalitas Nissan Thai dengan Nissan Indo. Nissan Thai sangat responsif dalam memasukkan model2 terbaru untuk meningkatkan brand image Nissan di Thailand. Tidak heran Nissan di Thailand berkembang pesat dan bahkan Lexus sudah membuka dealer di Thailand.

"Teddy Irawan, deputy director national sales & promotion PT Nissan Motor Indonesia mengaku saat ini masih belum mempertimbangkan akan mendatangkan kedua model itu. "Saat ini dengan empat model saja kami ngos-ngosan memenuhi permintaan kosumen," katanya. Selain itu, harus dipertimbangkan juga bahwa model yang didatangkan selain meningkatkan citra Nissan juga harus ada kompensasi pada volume penjualan." -> Non sense!! Jika brand image Nissan meningkat, dengan otomatis penjualan juga akan terdongkrak! Contoh dengan diperkenalkannya 350Z, image Nissan menjadi sporty dan sedan2nya akan lebih laku, dan dengan Murano, Nissan akan semakin dikenal dikenal sebagai market leader SUV dan hal ini tentu akan mendongkrak penjualan X-Trail!

Dalam marketing, tidak selalu sebuah langkah harus menunjukkan hasil langsung/instant, justru langkah2 yang dipersiapkan untuk jangka panjang akan lebih menguntungkan. Yang memetik hanya mendapatkan sekeranjang apel, yang menanam akan menuai segudang

Carlos Ghosn sangat piawai dalam hal ini, tidak heran Nissan kini menjadi pemain yang disegani di Jepang, USA dan mulai tahun depan, Europe.

observer · Post by **observer** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:17

Kalau Nissan Indo belum berencana untuk memasukkan Murano ke sini, mungkin karena mereka masih kurang PD.

Masih ingat Nissan Elgrand yang dimasukkan IU ke indo? Pernah muncul sesaat, tetapi tidak lama kemudian tenggelam lagi. Sama sekali tidak bisa bersaing sama Alphard.

Kalau saya sebagai manajemen Nissan Indo, saya akan berpikir: 'ngapain ambil resiko, jangan jangan nasibnya kayak Honda MDX. Mendingan biar IU saja yang test market dulu. Kalau Murano versi IU bisa bersaing dengan Harrier, baru gue keluarin versi ATPM.'

Jadi teman2 IU di sini, silahkan secara leluasa masukkan Murano saja. I pribadi yakin produk ini akan diterima baik oleh kalangan berduit disini, paling tidak melebihi dari Honda MDX.

mpoezz · Post by **mpoezz** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:38

ngak nyucuk kali sama untung nya

DigitALL · Post by **DigitALL** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 17:20

Nissan Murano ! Hehehe ... sebenernya sih SUV canggih yang sekelas dengan BMW X5, Volvo XC90, MB M-Class dan Harrier ini sudah sejak tahun lalu muncul di pameran otomotif terakbar tahun lalu di Gaikindo Auto Expo 2003.

Bahkan pihak Nissan Indonesia sendiri udah mengujinya di sini. Tapi sampe sekarang belum juga diluncurkan ...

Memang strategi dagang dan pengamatan pasar dari pihak Nissan ini extra hati2. Mereka ngga mau asal melepas dan ujung2nya tidak sukses, jadi Nissan sini mau yang pasti. Mereka meluncurkan produknya tahap demi tahap sekaligus membangun citra / brand image yang bagus serta diiringi oleh pembangunan dealer2 dan bengkel2 di seluruh tanah air.

conan · Post by **conan** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 16:07

A Nissan Murano Review. Drool..

You're probably thinkingÃ¢â‚¬Â¦oh no, not another SUV! WrongÃ¢â‚¬Â¦it's not just another SUV. Yes, it looks like one and has the practicality of an SUV, but we think the new Murano is closer to a Maxima than say, a Pathfinder. Dare we say a sports car-like SUV? Too far-fetched? Hang on and you'll understand our rationaleÃ¢â‚¬Â¦

From the outside, the Murano (moo-rano) has distinctive flowing lines. (The name "Murano" is also used to describe a type of very fine Venetian glass art and thus quite fitting to its namesake.) Some of our editors say it looks neo-spaceship (like the more snooty Lexus RX300). We love the wide-mouth fascia and titanium-tint grille. And somehow we're always nuts for projector headlights! The front and rear chin/skid plates are molded to look like its ready to go off-roading. The rear C-pillar is reminiscent of the new Z with its tiny window - which may scare some for rear side visibility (which didn't bother us a bit during our tests). For a full design review, click here...

All Muranos come fitted with big 18" wheels and tires (235/65R18). There are two trim levels - SL and SE. In usual Nissan nomenclature, the SE signifies the sport suspension and wheel combo. Surprisingly we actually prefer the SL's 5 spoke wheels to the SE design.

The Murano is based on the 2002 Altima uni-body platform known as FF-L. This platform began with the Altima and will spawn more mid-size vehicles with cavernous interiors and a sophisticated multi-link rear suspension. Wheelbase is measured at 111 inches allowing a spacious interior. For comparison the Toyota Highlander measures in at 107 inches.

The Murano does add two twists to the powertrain alphabet soup. The first is a standard CVT (continuously variable transmission) dubbed "Xtronic" by Nissan. Also new to the game is Nissan's optional AWD (all wheel drive) system. Both give the Murano a technological and performance edge over competitors. For more tech info, click here...

It all sounds nice on paper but how does it drive? Luckily, we were able to drive both front wheel and all-wheel drive versions as well SE and SL variants. All Muranos are powered by the venerable 3.5L V-6 engine known as the VQ35DE--also found in the Altima, Maxima, 350Z, and of course Pathfinder. It's good for 245 horsepower at 5,800 rpm. Peak torque is 246 lb-ft @ 4,400 rpm. (For comparison, the same engine in the Pathfinder makes 240 bhp @ 6,000 RPM and peak torque of 265 lb-ft @ 3,200 RPM.) We've grown to love this all aluminum DOHC 24-valve engine series first seen in mid- 90's Maximas. In the Murano, this amazing engine delivers gobs of power and rocket-like thrust without any harshness. We did notice a slight but detectable lag when we left the CVT gear selector in normal "Drive", but when we kept the selector in "S" ("second" or "Sport" - depending on who you talk to at Nissan), the CVT keeps the engine powerband in the sweet spot.
We were a bit surprised at the amount of engine (and CVT noise?) emanating from the engine bay to the point where we asked the Nissan folks if this was normal. It wasn't unrefined but it was weird hearing the sewing machine-like cacophony during full throttle and not a peep from the dual rear exhausts.

A bit more on the CVT (continuously variable transmission) dubbed the Xtronic by Nissan. The CVT dumps fixed gears for two variable diameter pulleys and a high-strength steel belt. According to Nissan, during acceleration, the pulleys move in opposite directions and the steel belt rides on a smaller diameter, closer to the axis; when the pulleys are close, the steel belt rides on a larger diameter, near the outer rim. The pulleys are controlled to expand and contract in opposite directions so the ratio of the drive diameters between the two pulleys can be varied over a wide range, resulting in an infinitely variable drive ratio. The Xtronic CVT offers a spread of "gear" ratios between its lowest and highest range (2.371:1 to 0.439:1).

What does this mean to you? A couple of thingsÃ¢â‚¬Â¦it means no harsh shift shocks during hard acceleration plus improved fuel economy by up to twenty percent. We noticed at 70 MPH, the engine RPM was a lowly 2000 RPM! Accordingly, Nissan's EPA figures are approximately 20 mpg for city and 24 mpg for the highway. Not bad for a vehicle that weighs around 3,900 lbs! Oh, before we forget, the Murano has a 21 gallon fuel tank meaning it should be good for at least a 400 mile excursion without refueling.

Nissan's Xtronic CVT is the first for a Japanese vehicle being sold in the U.S. that's capable of handling the power and torque of 3.5 liter V-6 engine. The only other real competitor is Audi's Multitronic CVT found in front wheel drive A4 and A6 models. Interestingly enough, the Murano concept shown earlier this year had a "7-speed" manu-matic as part of the CVT but was ditched for production units. Insiders tell us there were technical issues with the manual mode that would delay production, and in the end the feature was axed in order to make it to market.

Also new to the game is Nissan's AWD system. Muranos are to be available in both front wheel drive and all wheel drive models. Setting the AWD button to "Auto" makes the Murano act as a front wheel drive vehicle until slip is detected by the traction control system and up to 50% of the power is sent to the rear wheel to improve grip. According to Nissan, when the driver locks the car into AWD mode via a center console switch, power is split at 50%-50% front to rear. This alleviates the torque steer found in front wheel drive Muranos. The car will remain in that mode until the car is over 19 mph then the system will determine the amount of power to send to the back.

The Murano sports full independent suspension with front struts with a rear multi-link rear derived from the Skyline GT-R sports car like it's Altima brother. The relatively high-tech suspension setup shows in the twisties. We tried emergency maneuvers at 40 mph with a side-to-side motion, and the car's suspension remained composed without bottoming out or loss of control. Along high-speed sweepers, the suspension kept the car very stable and predictable. The steering isn't over boosted and allows you to read the road. We were surprised, though--the ride even with the SL model is slightly harsh over joints and bumps, though it isn't overbearing. With most SUVs, you'll suffer from wind stability issues at freeway speeds which we didn't notice with the Murano. Even though it has a relatively high Cd of .39, we're sure the Murano's engineers tweaked those sleek lines for high-speed stability.

The vehicles we drove all had VDC and traction control, a $749 option. VDC can selectively brake each wheel and reduce engine torque to help reign in oversteer and understeer as well as reduce wheel spin on slippery surfaces. With the AWD models, we didn't see the VDC/traction control light on the dash flicker, but we did see it flashing with the front wheel drive models when pushing the car through corners.

Was Nissan able to inject a bit of Z DNA into the Murano? Nissan product planners describe their performance target for the Murano as the upper-crust BMW X5. Perhaps a lofty goal but we think this new Nissan is one of the sportiest SUVs we've gotten our mitts on.

Inside the Murano is full of neat and thoughtful details. Getting inside the Murano is a breeze with wide doors, well-designed side sills, and seats. The seats are well bolstered even for semi-aggressive driving. Both the leather and cloth seating surfaces appeared to be of high quality. The gauges, while visually similar to the Altima and Z's 3-pod cluster, is also a departure with a "parchment paper" background. The plastics inside the cabin have expensive texture grains and are semi-soft to to the touch. We also need to give credit to Nissan for using real aluminum cutouts on the dash, center console, and arm rests on the doors!

The center console housing the audio and dual-zone climate control has intuitive button placement. The display for these systems appears on the large muti-function LCD monitor (also used for the optional navigation system) above these controls. The center console armrest hides an ultra-deep storage bin capable of holding a laptop! There's a lot of useful storage bins in the cabin. Another neat detail is the rear seating area-it's totally devoid of a driveshaft hump. Imagine a super-usable and roomy center rear seat! Also cool are the one-step remote levers situated near the rear hatch to flip the rear seats down to form a perfectly flat trunk area. It's not power actuated but still works well. Even the hatch itself is made from a strong steel composite material reducing weight and effort when lifting it. We also admire the easy-to-use cruise control and audio system controls on the three-spoke steering wheel.

Spacewise, the Murano has plenty of room. There's almost 110 cubic feet of passenger space. Thanks to the aforementioned missing transmission hump, rear seat passengers have 36 inches of leg room (5 more than the Pathfinder). Every seat in the cabin has plenty of headroom with almost 40 inches of space even with the sunroof option. Want to move a television? Fold down the rear seats and there's 81 cubic feet of space (31 cubic feet if the seats are up).

Any other negatives in the cabin? HmmmÃ¢â‚¬Â¦the first thing we noticed was the reflection of the upper dash on the windshield due to its extreme rake. Choosing a darker interior will probably resolve that issue. And the cool-looking gauges can get washed out in direct sunlight.

Sounds like we're impressed with the Murano? That would be a fair assessment. The Murano's design may not be everyone's piece of cake but it pushes the envelope while remaining tasteful. Throw in the sweet VQ engine and well-balanced suspension for those who like a like to add a bit of spice when driving. And a whole lot of neat features that you eventually can't imagine living without! In closing, the innovative design, powertrain, sporty handling, and thoughtful features actually make us want one for ourselves now! Me in an SUV? Sure, I need style, performance, CVT, and AWD--Hell's frozen over!

mpoezz · Post by **mpoezz** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 17:48

kira kira mau di jual berapa yah.
kalo kemurahan ntar kayak ngak berkelas (apalagi orang sini liat kalo mobil bagus tapi murah kadang2 pesimis sendiri,biasanya mikir tuh mobil bener bener bagus apa bohongan)

kalo mau dijual mahal malah merek nya nissan siapa yang mau beli,ntar milih suv eropa semua.

Chalupa · Post by **Chalupa** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 19:01

conan wrote:......Murano (moo-rano)

Tuh, denger apa kata expert di luar negeri, cara baca 2 letters pertamanya itu harus ngikutin gaya sapi dulu..........MOO................rano

WP · Post by WP » Sat Sep 18, 2004 15:21

MURANO INI KIRA2 SATU PLATFORM DGN INFINITY FX45/35 GAK SIH??

conan · Post by **conan** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 15:32

WP wrote:MURANO INI KIRA2 SATU PLATFORM DGN INFINITY FX45/35 GAK SIH??

NO it's not. If you read the above review before posting you'd know what platform it's on.

DigitALL · Post by **DigitALL** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 20:23

Platformnya dari Nissan 350Z kan ...

WP · Post by WP » Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:40

Kalo gitu Infinity FX pake platform baru ya?

DigitALL · Post by **DigitALL** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 16:57

WP wrote:Kalo gitu Infinity FX pake platform baru ya?

Kurang tau tuh ... ada yang tau ngga nih ?

DigitALL · Post by **DigitALL** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 17:11

Ini gw attach gambar NISSAN Murano yang tampil di Gaikindo Auto Expo tahun lalu ...

Dan sebetulnya sudah pernah di uji coba oleh pihak NISSAN Indonesia, tapi entah mengapa hingga sekarang tidak terdengar kabarnya lagi. Padahal dari uji coba tsb, pihak NISSAN Indonesia memuji kecanggihan dan kenyamanan SUV premium ini.

conan · Post by **conan** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 17:18

DigitALL wrote: Dan sebetulnya sudah pernah di uji coba oleh pihak NISSAN Indonesia, tapi entah mengapa hingga sekarang tidak terdengar kabarnya lagi. Padahal dari uji coba tsb, pihak NISSAN Indonesia memuji kecanggihan dan kenyamanan SUV premium ini.

Itu kan karena Murano di Gaikindo itu versi USA yang sudah diluncurkan sejak akhir 2002 (lihat di gambar, setirnya setir kiri). Murano baru saja diluncurkan di Jepang (versi setir kanan). Yang sudah setir kanan saja belum tentu dimasukkan ke Indo, apalagi yang setir kiri deh!

DigitALL · Post by **DigitALL** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:56

Thanks bung Conan untuk penjelasannya. Memang Murano di Gaikindo lalu itu setir kiri. Tapi sempat di test drive dan muncul di AutoBild Indonesia.

Ya ... mungkin timingnya belum tepat. Karena NISSAN masih sibuk dengan X-TRAIL, new SERENA dan TEANA nya ...

Audiophile · Post by **Audiophile** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:52

Hari ini (15/10) di koran Kompas (hal 47) ada lho yg mengiklankan Murano (Ivan's Motor).
Kalo nggak salah, tipe yg 2.5

hdrw · Post by **hdrw** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:36

Harga Murano 2.5L 2WD (163 Pk) 530 juta (on the road).

observer · Post by **observer** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 13:21

hdrw wrote:Harga Murano 2.5L 2WD (163 Pk) 530 juta (on the road).

Wah, mahal amat!! Lebih mahal dari Harrier?!! Laku gak tuh?

Saya pikir kalau mau serius jualan, harga yang wajar di sekitar 450jutaan. Dengan demikian IU bisa membuktikan ke ATPM kalau demandnya ada dan cukup besar, dan mudah mudahan memicu ATPM keluar versi CKD di 360jutaan

mpoezz · Post by **mpoezz** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 14:45

lumayan mahal yah.

tapi sebanding ya udah banyak yang pake harrier kalo orang banyak duit sih dan selalu ingin jadi yang pertama ngak masalah hehehe.

conan · Post by **conan** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 15:19

Ya, sepertinya Rp 530 juta masih harga 'barang baru'. Mungkin nanti stabil di Rp 480-500 jutaan. ATPM masih ada kemungkinan memasukkan secara built-up tapi kalau CKD sih wah..ga bisa terlalu berharap..Nissan Indo maunya model yang bisa terjual dengan volume sangat besar, baru di-CKD.

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