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soalnya panther ane depan udah parah nih.... kalo ban depan kana di angkat keliatan bgt miring ke arah dalam bgt cambernya...... beda ama yang kiri..
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cek ball joint atas dan bawah mar... biasa kalo uda parah banget camber nya itu uda bukan stelan nya lagi tapi ball joint uda rusak parah karet nya... kaya di panther ane dulu...
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bal joint sih belom robek broo.. kalo yang kiri pernah ganti ball joint yang atas...
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kalo ganti ball joint sehh mendingan kiri ama kanan skalian mar...biar lebi enak gt... blom robek tapi kalo uda bocor yahh sama aja... kalo mobil uda berumur dan sering lewat jalan jelek, apalagi odo uda tinggi yah bole lahh restorasi kaki2... sperti yg uda ane lakuin di panther ane... kerasa beda nya bro... lebi hemat gt skalian ongkos kerja nya...
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broo kalo shock absorber yang awet yang mana kalo buat depan??
kalo pake yang ori mantepnya gk tahan lama...
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kalo di panther kotak ane, ane pakein yg punya nya grand touring mar... so far sehh uda dipake dari bulan 1 kmaren ini... masi bagus dan kaga mengayun sperti yg sblom nya... malah bantingan cenderung lebi keras, tapi lebi stabil pas lari kenceng...
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m4rio wrote:broo kalo shock absorber yang awet yang mana kalo buat depan??
kalo pake yang ori mantepnya gk tahan lama...
notice....saya jg merasa sama, makin kemari sokbreker ori jarang yg awet, bahkan punya otoy yg terkenal tangguh pun sama saja.....

entah apakah ada downgrade kualitas supaya harganya tetap bs terjangkau ataukah gmn....sebab kalo diliat kondisi jalan skrg udah jauh lbh baik dibanding tahun2 lalu.....meski selalu ada jalan yg rusak tapi kan jalan yg mulus lbh banyak....sepatutnya sokbreker skrg lebih awet dibanding sebelumnya....

bagi saya...skrg ini umur sokbreker jd senasib dng aki mobil......umurnya gak seawet di waktu2 lalu.....

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broo.. kalo ane liat kan lembaran per daun panther ane nih kyknya kok udah lurus bgt ya, trus jadinya malah kyk ceper gitu.. bisa di roll kan ya atau di gulung ulang gitu katanya? jadi keras bgt nih yg belakang..
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bawa aja ke bengkel per mar.....udah biasa kok mobil yg per daun secara periodik memang mesti dibangun lagi per nya, lembarannya dibuka dan diroll lagi supaya kembali ke ukuran standarnya...

ongkosnya gak mahal kok, cuma nunggunya yg lama...... :mrgreen:
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bisa patah gk bro kalo udah kebanyakan di roll gitu??????
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kalo per daun uda lurus musti nya jadi lebi empuk dan limbung donk bro... malah kalo yg masi melengkung (baru) agak keras jadinya... kalo keras seh mungkin dari shock nya yg uda lemah, atau bisa jg ntuh per daun uda ga "main" lg... jd ga efektif meredam... kalo mo empuk coba ganti per yg plg bawah nya aja bro (plg pendek)... kalo mo empuk bisa dicopot tuh per pendek... dijamin lgs empuk.... tapi lgs limbung jg...
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btw kalo mnurut ane sehh mendingan diganti aja seh tuh per... dulu ane jg perna nge roll per nya... ga lama patah tuh per... apalagi kalo sering bawa barang berat...
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m4rio wrote:bisa patah gk bro kalo udah kebanyakan di roll gitu??????
emang ente udah berapa kali ngeroll per ??? :ungg:

prinsip saya sih, selama blm patah, meski udah diroll ya pake aja terus,hehehe....sebab ada jg kok per yg patah meski blm pernah diroll.....
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gk tau sih, kalo selama di tangan ane sih belom
tapi gk tau pemilik sebelomnya gmn..
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jalu wrote:
m4rio wrote:bisa patah gk bro kalo udah kebanyakan di roll gitu??????
emang ente udah berapa kali ngeroll per ??? :ungg:

prinsip saya sih, selama blm patah, meski udah diroll ya pake aja terus,hehehe....sebab ada jg kok per yg patah meski blm pernah diroll.....
kalo di panther ane koq yg patah sering yg sebelah kiri doank yahh kak... tapi stelah ane tambahin selembar per... lgs kaga perna patah lagi ampe skrg.. uda ampir 4 taon malah... padahal waktu masi kondisi ori, ampir tiap taon ada aja per yg patah...
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tapi patahnya cuman 1 lembar doank gitu kan ya broo???
tanda2 to gejala per patah apa broo? bunyi dug dug gitu gk?
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DOHC wrote:
jalu wrote:
m4rio wrote:bisa patah gk bro kalo udah kebanyakan di roll gitu??????
emang ente udah berapa kali ngeroll per ??? :ungg:

prinsip saya sih, selama blm patah, meski udah diroll ya pake aja terus,hehehe....sebab ada jg kok per yg patah meski blm pernah diroll.....
kalo di panther ane koq yg patah sering yg sebelah kiri doank yahh kak... tapi stelah ane tambahin selembar per... lgs kaga perna patah lagi ampe skrg.. uda ampir 4 taon malah... padahal waktu masi kondisi ori, ampir tiap taon ada aja per yg patah...
tuh bener kan.....dl kijang lgx saya sebelah kanan terus yg sering patah (lembar ke 4)..apv sepupu saya lembar nmr 5 sebelah kiri.....padahal keduanya blm pernah diroll.....sementara dulu pake carry udah 4x diroll sampe mubil tsb dijual gak pernah patah,hehehe....

biasanya bengkel per udah punya trik2 lembar subtitusi untuk mengganti yg rawan patah chiong.....atau komposisi lembaran supaya bs lbh kuat tanpa banyak mengorbankan kenyamanan...
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yo i... patah nya satu... tapi perna jg patah 2 sekaligus... cuman karena posisi patahnya ga sejajar yahh masi nahan jadinya...

per patah sehh biasa ada bunyi mar... cuman karena per2 tsb diiket kuat, kadang bunyi nya susah didenger... plg musti dicek visual aja... kliatan koq per yg patah karena melengkung nya ga sejajar ama temen2 nya yg laen...
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kalo gejala itu kyknya udah ada deh. coba deh besok ane perhatiin dengan seksama lagi..
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m4rio wrote:tapi patahnya cuman 1 lembar doank gitu kan ya broo???
tanda2 to gejala per patah apa broo? bunyi dug dug gitu gk?
di mobil kecil umumnya patah 1 lembar ada jg yg sampe patah 2 tapi jarang sekali, lain halnya kalo mbl truk & bus itu sering sampe bs patah 2 skaligus krn beban berat.

gejala patah biasanya secara visual mbl terliat miring, atau ditikungan terasa satu sisi seperti lemah dan lbh limbung.......gejala yg lain adalah bunyi "klontranggggg"....krn lembaranya udah jatuh ke jalan,hehehe.... :upss:
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jalu wrote:
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kalo di panther ane koq yg patah sering yg sebelah kiri doank yahh kak... tapi stelah ane tambahin selembar per... lgs kaga perna patah lagi ampe skrg.. uda ampir 4 taon malah... padahal waktu masi kondisi ori, ampir tiap taon ada aja per yg patah...
tuh bener kan.....dl kijang lgx saya sebelah kanan terus yg sering patah (lembar ke 4)..apv sepupu saya lembar nmr 5 sebelah kiri.....padahal keduanya blm pernah diroll.....sementara dulu pake carry udah 4x diroll sampe mubil tsb dijual gak pernah patah,hehehe....

biasanya bengkel per udah punya trik2 lembar subtitusi untuk mengganti yg rawan patah chiong.....atau komposisi lembaran supaya bs lbh kuat tanpa banyak mengorbankan kenyamanan...
yo i kak... karena yg sering patah di panther ane itu lembar terpanjang ke dua ama ketiga... ama bengkel per diganti tuh ama yg lebi tebel dan diantara per terpanjang kedua dan ketiga tsb, ditambahin lagi satu lembar per.... ampe skrg ntuh per jadi kuat kokoh, cuman bantingan jadi keras aja awal2nya.... makanya per kedua dari plg bawah ane copotin dan per plg pendek ane press dikit...
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ternyata yg bikin setir innova itu berat dan sebagian bisa ada yg enteng.. itu smua gara2 si castor nya... barusan ane coba spooring dan castor tsb distel ulang... hasil nya jauhh lebi enteng... tapi lari 80 kph... wuihhh serasa lg nyetir panther ane dulu... terpaksa akhirnya pake settingan awal... mantap lagi dehh lari 150 kph.. :upss: :upss: :upss:

btw bsok kuras oli PS nya lagi ahhh....
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Eh cara nguras oli PS versi ente tempo hari yg dilakukan 1 orang doank gimana chiong? Share donk... :upss:
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mau kuras jg yah siong ??

emang waktu itu nt kuras si pajero gmana cara ?

ane waktu itu, pertama buka selang atas, trus selang atas tersbut ane masukin ke botol aqua..biar ga brantakan... trus ane start enjin ane... kira2 3 detik terus matiin... pasang selang atas tsb... isi penuh reservoir.. puter setir kiri kanan beberapa kali... trus ulangin lagi proses yg pertama... yahh kira2 lakukan ampe ntuh 1 btol atf abis lahh..
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sip chiong... kayanya si t30 belom pernah dikuras nih oli PSnya :upss: :upss: :upss:

kalo pajero waktu itu ane suruh beres gantiin chiong, sekalian ama minyak rem & oli gardan
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