Suzuki SX4 Vs All new jazz 2008 - Part 01

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GTR wrote:kalo di lapangan macam kemayoran / senen sih sparepart ori juga masih discount, rata2 semua merk jepang. yg lebih banyak palsunya : mazda(secara taxi) dan suzuki.
Parts ori juga ada 2 : ori jepang dan lokal yg murah, terutama fast moving, dari filter oli s/d kanvas rem.
kopling toyota corolla/soluna itu ada 2 : aisin(jarang nih, sama persis bawaan pabrik di mobilnya) dan aisin-i, ini ori lokal.
aisin aslinya soluna/corolla? gak percaya gw... terakhir gw liat vios lama, altis CBU thai, soluna yang baru pada turun kopling pertama kali, pas liat aslinya udah bertuliskan "AISIN-i"... Semuanya punya customer dan semuanya gw yang beliin partnya.. Part ganti ama part asli mobil sama persis barangnya dan kodenya "AISIN-i"..
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genuine corolla harusnya ada 2 : aisin dan aisin-i, di kemayoran yg tawarin "aisin" (bukan packaging TGP), di otomotif juga ada penjelasannya.
itu di kemayoran dan senen, banyak banget loh yg di-packaging "TGP", "SGP", "Honda", dst dst semua deh, tapi ati2 sebagian palsu....heh3.
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ngarep pas diturunin yg gw tulisannya Toyota Technocraft - TRD Racing development

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tp tulisan yg nongol waktu diturunin ASINAN..

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back to topic..... plaese..............
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kalau gitu mendingan tanya ke bengkel resmi, cek fisik barangnya, harga resminya. ketahuan kan.

baru cari di luaran.

daripada nanti ketemu yang TRD , Toyota Rolling Door :D
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lho.. koq malah lari ke toyota yah? :D
suzuki sama honda-nya kmana negh?
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Udah udah... SMania ini jago2 soal mobil, tapi lebih jago lagi kalo urusan off topic. Back on track hayo.

Akhirnya SX4 gw nyampe nih. Tapi gw baru sadar kalau bukaan pintu belakang SX4 itu elektrik... Halah... Cemas juga. Gw lebih milih cara kuno aja deh, entar tiba2 sekring putus gak bisa kebuka lagi. Terus bener2 berasa beda kalau belok dibanding Jazz radius putar SX4 lebih besar.... Dipadukan dengan idung SX4 yang mancung, gw kudu ekstra hati2 nih sekarang.

Gak bisa komentar banyak2 lagi. Cuma bisa dipake keliling komplek apartemen... Secara nomor belum ada :(

Satu hal yang gw rindu... Waktu gw beli Jazz 4 tahun lalu *senandung melodi kasmaran* gw tiduran di belakang dengan jok dilipat rata... Sekarang gak bisa... Yah, tidak ada yang sempyurna deh.

Cuma, posisi duduk mantab :e-clap: belum diajak jalan, tapi paling kalau udah keluar nomor langsung gw bikin deh perbandingan old & new di blog... Jazz lama vs SX4.
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total2...sejak booking fee sampai terima unit, brp lama bro ?
plat nomor dijanjikan berap laama lg ?
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Hot gosip lagi nih....

sabtu kemarin gw service 1000KM and sempet ngobrol2 sama salah 1 sales diHonda. Menurut mereka ada kabar bahwa Honda Jazz baru akan naik lagi harganya. Alasannya karena harga material besi lagi mahal. Mereka juga akan launching All New City akhir tahun ini dengan harga termurah dikisaran harga 200an Juta!!! dan tahun depan mereka akan launching FRED, mobil 7 penumpang untuk mengacak2 pasar Avanza/Xenia dan GrandLivina. FRED diperkirakan berada dibawah 200jt dan dibawah harga All New Jazz yg baru nanti.

Wah Gileee nih Honda naikin harga Jazz Terus!!!!!........
tapi patut ditunggu FRED akan seperti apa!!
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aladin999 wrote:Hot gosip lagi nih....

sabtu kemarin gw service 1000KM and sempet ngobrol2 sama salah 1 sales diHonda. Menurut mereka ada kabar bahwa Honda Jazz baru akan naik lagi harganya. Alasannya karena harga material besi lagi mahal. Mereka juga akan launching All New City akhir tahun ini dengan harga termurah dikisaran harga 200an Juta!!! dan tahun depan mereka akan launching FRED, mobil 7 penumpang untuk mengacak2 pasar Avanza/Xenia dan GrandLivina. FRED diperkirakan berada dibawah 200jt dan dibawah harga All New yg baru nanti.

Wah Gileee nih Honda naikin harga Jazz Terus!!!!!........
tapi patut ditunggu FRED akan seperti apa!!
Klo Jazz naik harga krn besi mahal tp freed bs lbh murah, kemungkinan dibikin dr kaleng nih
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klo sampe mengacak acak avanza xenia ga mungkin,.Udah terbukti di Livina,.
Tapi aneh klo lebih murah dari new jazz,.apa mau dikasih material kayak apanja?
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freed ga mungkin lebih murah dari jazz sih
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GTR wrote:freed ga mungkin lebih murah dari jazz sih
menurut gw pasti lebih murah kalo seandainya harga Jazz akan dinaikin lagi. Harga Jazz yang sekarang aja untuk varian termurahnya sebagai berikut:

ALL New JAZZ S M/T Rp. 165jt
ALL New JAZZ S AT Rp. 175jt

Jadi menurut gw diakan main diharga 155jt - 180jt, jd kenapa tidak mungkin??? GranLivina aja masuk dirange harga segitu.... kalo seandainya harganya diatas ALL New JAZZ, mau saingan sama siapa??? Siapa yg mau beli?? Lebih baik ambil GranLivina, Avanza, APV aja....hehehe
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GTR wrote:freed ga mungkin lebih murah dari jazz sih
kenapa penyebabnya ?
dari sisi production cost atau dari sisi policy price positioning ?



*loh, kok malah kita lari bahas Freed disini sih ? :e-think: .. :mrgreen: *
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krn sebenarnya freed bisa dijadikan bukan 'direct' head to head dgn salah satu dari mereka secara;
dgn Avanza : freed = fwd; dgn level handling & comfort juga bakal beda.
dgn GL (yg lebih mirip stationwagon): freed = lebih tinggi roof nya jauh & tangki bensin di tengah, ini harusnya bikin posisi duduk & head room lebih lega.
dgn Innova : freed = fwd, pure monocoque & 1500cc.

styling & bulid quality juga beda, pintunya juga siliding door, mirip "MPV global" model alphard serena dll.
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tp kalau misalnya boss nya Honda memposisikan harga Freed di bawah Jazz,....dg profit margin tipis2 aja dulu......
at least utk sementara, buat melakukan penetrasi (dan kalau bisa merebut) pasar,
apakah tidak mungkin ?
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mungkin aja sih, tapi bukannya malah matiin jazz yah, lain cerita kalo di luar negeri (remaja-keluarga kecil) kali.
di indo, kaum remaja aja banyak yg suka kijang/avanza/GL.

lagipula harga avanza, saat freed keluar nanti udah main 150jt an kali
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nah, kalau avanja di 150an....
lalu freed ditaruh di 170-180an.... ini "kena" ke Livina ya ?
nah, kan bagus tuuh....

sedangkan Jazz,...ah no worry....nampaknya cuma dikiiit banget kalau pun terganggu...soalnya pangsanya udah lebih established....
jiwa muda,...gaul.... speed lover,.... dalkot.... <<< masa' yg karakter begini mau ambil freed ?

let's say: Jazz tergangu cuma dikit, tp Freed mendulang pangsa sedemikian buanyakkk.... nah, pilih mana...
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Ya elah, off topic lagi... Ya dah deh, gw nimbrung juga.

Kenapa Honda City baru nembus 200 juta? Tanya kenapa...

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ok asumsi begitu, tapi secara inflasi begitu tinggi, kalo jual subsidi silang begitu terus lama2 mana tahan, harga honda di luar negeri juga memang termasuk yg tinggi koq di kelasnya contoh jazz(fit).
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rear end nya cetakan BMW yah?
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anjrit.. keren nih kalo jadinya begini... next thread yg rame pasti neobaleno VS allnew City...
huhuhuhu... yg udah punya neobaleno silahkan persiapkan dengan argumen2 yg sayentipik dan mantap.. jangan pake perasaan.... hehehehe...

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mpvlover wrote:
aladin999 wrote:Hot gosip lagi nih....

sabtu kemarin gw service 1000KM and sempet ngobrol2 sama salah 1 sales diHonda. Menurut mereka ada kabar bahwa Honda Jazz baru akan naik lagi harganya. Alasannya karena harga material besi lagi mahal. Mereka juga akan launching All New City akhir tahun ini dengan harga termurah dikisaran harga 200an Juta!!! dan tahun depan mereka akan launching FRED, mobil 7 penumpang untuk mengacak2 pasar Avanza/Xenia dan GrandLivina. FRED diperkirakan berada dibawah 200jt dan dibawah harga All New yg baru nanti.

Wah Gileee nih Honda naikin harga Jazz Terus!!!!!........
tapi patut ditunggu FRED akan seperti apa!!
Klo Jazz naik harga krn besi mahal tp freed bs lbh murah, kemungkinan dibikin dr kaleng nih
lho, setahu gue harga besi sudah turun koq....... sekitar 10% lebih murah dibanding sebulanan yg lalu hiiiiiiii

jadi kalo naik harga sih bukan karena material, tp karena manfaatin moment inden yg berjubel..... kapan lagi bisa untung gede kalo gak inden bejibun.....
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Midi_Amp wrote:Ya elah, off topic lagi... Ya dah deh, gw nimbrung juga.

Kenapa Honda City baru nembus 200 juta? Tanya kenapa...

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Ini versi cina jadi dapet sunroof. Versi asia tergantung keputusan dari Thailand aja... Tinggal menghitung hari aja kok... Gak harafiah ya, pokoknya bentar lagi keluar nih mobil.
kereeennn........ terus terang neo baleno susah deh bersaing kalo lihat dr style.....

tapi........


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