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tolong stay on topic tentang F1... kalo mau nostalgia motor jadoel, silahkan buka tret tersendiri... :mky_06:
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formula satu...menurut gw makin ke sini makin ga enak dilihat. sportivitasnya kurang, main sikut sesama satu timnya.... :mky_03: .....tapi gw seneng nih HONDA bakal masuk lagi ke F1.....welcome honda :big_peace:
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ibar78 wrote:formula satu...menurut gw makin ke sini makin ga enak dilihat. sportivitasnya kurang, main sikut sesama satu timnya.... :mky_03: .....tapi gw seneng nih HONDA bakal masuk lagi ke F1.....welcome honda :big_peace:
kalo ane malah suka dengan yang tahun ini walau gak pernah nonton. overtaking makin sering. kayak di China kemarin, nomor 1 - 5 adalah juara F1 dengan 5 team yang berbeda...
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ibar78 wrote:formula satu...menurut gw makin ke sini makin ga enak dilihat. sportivitasnya kurang, main sikut sesama satu timnya.... :mky_03: .....tapi gw seneng nih HONDA bakal masuk lagi ke F1.....welcome honda :big_peace:
kalo ane malah suka dengan yang tahun ini walau gak pernah nonton. overtaking makin sering. kayak di China kemarin, nomor 1 - 5 adalah juara F1 dengan 5 team yang berbeda...
sygnya...hal spt itu bs terjadi, lbh sbg akibat si Pirelli yg mau nuruti "pesanan atas" yaitu bikin ban yg "menarik" *baca: cepat aus....jd cukup krg terlihat fight2 dlm kondisi sama-sama....hari gini, pikiran driver n penstrategi lbh byk tersita utk mikirin managemen ban.
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pcx wrote:Dulu waktu tahun 1995 pernah ada team Tyrell Yamaha juga :)
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klu ga salah dulu ada pembalap f1 yg bertahan pake tongkat persneling dibanding pakai paddle shift. villeneuve pa bukan ya?
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andy1800 wrote:
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ibar78 wrote:formula satu...menurut gw makin ke sini makin ga enak dilihat. sportivitasnya kurang, main sikut sesama satu timnya.... :mky_03: .....tapi gw seneng nih HONDA bakal masuk lagi ke F1.....welcome honda :big_peace:
kalo ane malah suka dengan yang tahun ini walau gak pernah nonton. overtaking makin sering. kayak di China kemarin, nomor 1 - 5 adalah juara F1 dengan 5 team yang berbeda...
sygnya...hal spt itu bs terjadi, lbh sbg akibat si Pirelli yg mau nuruti "pesanan atas" yaitu bikin ban yg "menarik" *baca: cepat aus....jd cukup krg terlihat fight2 dlm kondisi sama-sama....hari gini, pikiran driver n penstrategi lbh byk tersita utk mikirin managemen ban.
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bukannya di situ menariknya? penggantian ban emang jadi salah satu penentu kemenangan?
kalo ane sih malah dibebasin aja bannya. satu team boleh pake merk bs, boleh pake merk mich, bole pake pir... bahkan dalam satu balapan...
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balapan ya overtakingnya di track, bukan di pitstop... :mky_04:
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y_anjasrana wrote:balapan ya overtakingnya di track, bukan di pitstop... :mky_04:
loh kan di pitstop gak boleh ngebut??? cuman strategi kapan masuk pitstop aja..
kalo gitu di rally juga gak asik dong.. gak ada overtaking, repairing time gak usah dihitung lagi... :mky_04:
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Satu..Sblumnya dah sempet ane ceritakan, bhw teknikalli, BS udah sampai pd level mampu bikin kompon ban yg bertahan sampai akhir balapan. no need to pitstop...penyelenggara gak mau begitu, trus nyuruh BS bikin ban yg cepat aus...BS, yg notabne org2 jepang, gak mau diajak terlibat intrik licik kek gitu..maka dia pilih cabut dr F1


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Tiga...masalah bukannya skrg ini malah jd makin asik?....yaaa tiap situasi bs dipandang punya keasikannya sndiri2.
Maksudnaaya, fightnya pembalap dg segala macam keterbatasan alat, itu adlh asik, sepanjang keterbatasan itu natural/wajar, bukan akibat dibikin2 (direkayasa). spt ban2 pIrelli yg dipake skrg ini.

Jelas mau nya pirelly disetir sm pengelola ini, mau ga mau jg memunculkan praduga kuat bhw sekali waktu bisa saja terjadi konspirasi. Misalnya posisi klasemen dah terlalu jauh, ini gak asik lg sbg tontonan...maka pngelola akan pesen ke pirelli: eh lu bikin ban yg jelekan dong buat pimpinan klasmen, yg bagusan kasih ke team pengejar...nah, jd seru lg deh tontonannya..yg kek gitu yg dimau?



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y_anjasrana wrote:klu ga salah dulu ada pembalap f1 yg bertahan pake tongkat persneling dibanding pakai paddle shift. villeneuve pa bukan ya?
Yup kl gak salah JV ini yg brtahan.
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andy1800 wrote:Satu..Sblumnya dah sempet ane ceritakan, bhw teknikalli, BS udah sampai pd level mampu bikin kompon ban yg bertahan sampai akhir balapan. no need to pitstop...penyelenggara gak mau begitu, trus nyuruh BS bikin ban yg cepat aus...BS, yg notabne org2 jepang, gak mau diajak terlibat intrik licik kek gitu..maka dia pilih cabut dr F1
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Tu dia riz...coba tengok lg penjelsan ki VM, atau minta lagi dia buat jelasin gmana karakteristik dan kultur org2 jepnag...dia yg paham banget sm Jepang.
ya gitu. Ada saat2nya Lugas to the point.

Slh satu simbolnya di seni samurainya. Klo seni beladiri yg lain kan gerakannya menari2 gitu...cobak klo samurai...lari saling mendekat, lsg bet bet bet, tanpa ba bi bu dah lsg ada yg tergeletak bersimbah darah. Selesai.


Oiya, ane blm sempet reply kmaren2, buat om Zombiee yg di dpn nanyain, gimana maksud inggris yg karakteristiknya cukup kebalikan dr Jepang. Inggri lbh akrab dg intrik, itu scara eksplisit tertulis itu di lirik lagu kebangsaannya:

O Lord our God arise,
Scatter her enemies,
And make them fall:

Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix:
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Tu dia riz...coba tengok lg penjelsan ki VM, atau minta lagi dia buat jelasin gmana karakteristik dan kultur org2 jepnag...dia yg paham banget sm Jepang.
ya gitu. Ada saat2nya Lugas to the point.

Slh satu simbolnya di seni samurainya. Klo seni beladiri yg lain kan gerakannya menari2 gitu...cobak klo samurai...lari saling mendekat, lsg bet bet bet, tanpa ba bi bu dah lsg ada yg tergeletak bersimbah darah. Selesai.


Oiya, ane blm sempet reply kmaren2, buat om Zombiee yg di dpn nanyain, gimana maksud inggris yg karakteristiknya cukup kebalikan dr Jepang. Inggri lbh akrab dg intrik, itu scara eksplisit tertulis itu di lirik lagu kebangsaannya:

O Lord our God arise,
Scatter her enemies,
And make them fall:

Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix:
God save us all
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andy1800 wrote:Tu dia riz...coba tengok lg penjelsan ki VM, atau minta lagi dia buat jelasin gmana karakteristik dan kultur org2 jepnag...dia yg paham banget sm Jepang.
ya gitu. Ada saat2nya Lugas to the point.

Slh satu simbolnya di seni samurainya. Klo seni beladiri yg lain kan gerakannya menari2 gitu...cobak klo samurai...lari saling mendekat, lsg bet bet bet, tanpa ba bi bu dah lsg ada yg tergeletak bersimbah darah. Selesai.


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maskopat wrote:
y_anjasrana wrote:balapan ya overtakingnya di track, bukan di pitstop... :mky_04:
loh kan di pitstop gak boleh ngebut??? cuman strategi kapan masuk pitstop aja..
kalo gitu di rally juga gak asik dong.. gak ada overtaking, repairing time gak usah dihitung lagi... :mky_04:
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makanya ane lebih seneng nonton balapan stockcar yg byk overtaking n senggol2an.... :mrgreen:

klu rally menariknya cara si pembalap melibas lintasan sempit dgn kecepatan tinggi.

klu f1... udah lama ga nonton lagi.

klu motogp, setelah master racingline ngawur tewas rasanya jd hambar.
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maskopat wrote:
y_anjasrana wrote:balapan ya overtakingnya di track, bukan di pitstop... :mky_04:
loh kan di pitstop gak boleh ngebut??? cuman strategi kapan masuk pitstop aja..
kalo gitu di rally juga gak asik dong.. gak ada overtaking, repairing time gak usah dihitung lagi... :mky_04:
:big_weee:
makanya ane lebih seneng nonton balapan stockcar yg byk overtaking n senggol2an.... :mrgreen:

klu rally menariknya cara si pembalap melibas lintasan sempit dgn kecepatan tinggi.

klu f1... udah lama ga nonton lagi.

klu motogp, setelah master racingline ngawur tewas rasanya jd hambar.
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andy1800 wrote:Tu dia riz...coba tengok lg penjelsan ki VM, atau minta lagi dia buat jelasin gmana karakteristik dan kultur org2 jepnag...dia yg paham banget sm Jepang.
ya gitu. Ada saat2nya Lugas to the point.

Slh satu simbolnya di seni samurainya. Klo seni beladiri yg lain kan gerakannya menari2 gitu...cobak klo samurai...lari saling mendekat, lsg bet bet bet, tanpa ba bi bu dah lsg ada yg tergeletak bersimbah darah. Selesai.


Oiya, ane blm sempet reply kmaren2, buat om Zombiee yg di dpn nanyain, gimana maksud inggris yg karakteristiknya cukup kebalikan dr Jepang. Inggri lbh akrab dg intrik, itu scara eksplisit tertulis itu di lirik lagu kebangsaannya:

O Lord our God arise,
Scatter her enemies,
And make them fall:

Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix:
God save us all
Sorry angkat lagi. Kemarin ketunda krn kerjaan..

Sebetulnya orang Jepang justru dekat dengan intrik. Dan intriknya ini sangat halus. Sangat ngga kentara. Seperti hal kehidupan biasa yang mengalir datar dan hambar.

Analogi dalam cerita fiksi detektif Conan itu memang lebih kurang nya tepat untuk menggambarkan bagaimana karakter orang Jepang sebenarnya. Trik licik, intrik dan manipulatif, berusaha dibungkus serapih mungkin dalam balutan alibi dan trik cerdas. Memang sih, dalam beberapa scene pemecahan kasus, ada beberapa hal yang rada rada dipaksakan metode dan modus pelaku dalam melakukan kejahatan.
Tapi benang merahnya adalah, orang Jepang lebih rapi dalam membungkus trik dan intrik. Tapi kalau sudah terbongkar, eksekusinya ya tanpa ba bi bu, betul tu kata mbah Andy, langsung sett sett sett, badan bolong dan kepala terpisah.

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y_anjasrana wrote: makanya ane lebih seneng nonton balapan stockcar yg byk overtaking n senggol2an.... :mrgreen:

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Nightster Guy wrote:
y_anjasrana wrote: makanya ane lebih seneng nonton balapan stockcar yg byk overtaking n senggol2an.... :mrgreen:

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NASCAR, mantepppp !! Tradisional, hajar2an, mepet, senggol.. Balap murni.. Ngisi bensin aja masih pake jerrycan...
Oh, bukan senggol bacok ya om...? ............. :ngacir:
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sett... emang disini senggolan ditrack dibawa keluar.. klu nascar senggolan ditrack dibalas lgsg ditrack juga.... :mrgreen:


klu ga salah mgu lalu ada yg bgitu. ada rookie yg mepet2 sampe mentok tembok, abis itu dibales disruduk dr belakang sampe muter2.....

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NASCAR....tontonan para alay Amerika...
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ZombiEE wrote: klo mnrt karib ane siapa aero engineer paling bagus kans juara nya sangat besar (e.g. Adrian Newey)...
Kolok ane mah gak ngikutin ef wan...cuman suka dgr cerita berbobot dari sang karib:)
demikianlah rib...prediksi ente di awal taun tsb, kembali terbukti kini....
menjelang akhir season ini pun...lagi2 ..... tak ada yg bisa mengejar sang maestro jenius dari inggris itu: mas Adrian Newey
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tp mengenai si tuan adrian newey tsb...

knapa waktu dulu doi di mclaren, koq susah amat yahh ngantar kimi raikonnen jadi juara dunia... bahkan mika hakinnen menjelang akhir karir nya di mclaren jg nasib nya sama... tp doi masi lebi beruntung, sempet merasakan ajib nya desain si newey hingga dpt jurdun 2 kali...

demikian pula waktu newey hijrah ke red bull... pas awal2 kasian amat tuh redbull, bahkan ampe david coulthard pensiun pun ga bsa jadi juara skalipun mobil nya....
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