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Re: Car Detailing Lounge - PART 07

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Belphegor wrote:Nubie sotoy bantu jawab ya, belum pernah selama ini pakai Soft99 meta clean, tapi kalau liat dari kotaknya apakah ini cleaner wax? Dan selama diaplikasi, apa swirl dan baret halus bisa hilang kalau pake ini?

Setau saya sih tahapan dalam detailing itu: Washing - Claying - Compound - Polishing - Waxing. Logikanya utk hilangin swirl dan baret halus minimal harus di polish, kalau masih belum hilang baru turun ke compound. Saya pribadi kebanyakan pakai produk meg: Gold Class Shampoo - Meg Clay + Quick Detailer - Ultimate Compound - Menzerna FG400 - NXT 2.0 / Meg Gold Class Carnauba Paste Wax.

Kalau cuci mobil pakai shampoo bayi sih saya blum pernah ya, tapi logikanya daya cleaningnya bakal terlalu lemah untuk hilangin debu & kontaminasi. Meski dicuci pake GC Shampoo sih wax ga akan luntur, saya sdh pernah coba eksperimen di finishing pad nempel wax, terus saya rendam pakai GC Shampoo selama 1 hari, ternyata wax tidak hilang sama sekali.

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Justru gw coba kmrn2 ini ada baret sih, hilang bro swirl n baret halusnya... buat ilangin tar & bug juga gampang bgt. Cuma kayanya ini produk AIO (all in one) yg bagus di cleanernya. hasil wax jg mengkilap bgt, cuma... kalo udah kena shampo, lapisan wax nya cpt bgt hilangnya

1. Kalo Claying itu buat apa sih?
2. Kalo Compond kan utk ilangin baret yg agak parah, atau kena kotoran burung yg tidak bisa hilang ya bekasnya?
3. Kalo polish itu utk mengkilapkan ya?
4. Wax itu utk coating kan ya?

Nah utk no 2 & 3 sptnya bisa tertutup dgn Soft99 meta clean deh..... kecuali utk baret yg parah, dia ga bisa.
Utk wax jg lagi nyari2 nih, ikut ente aja pak Meg apa Fuso7 nya soft 99 ya

THX bro buat masukannya
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Re: Car Detailing Lounge - PART 07

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Coba dicek dengan lampu senter apakah benar swirlnya hilang? Setau saya sih kalau cuma pakai cleaner wax, swirl yg membandel susah utk hilang, paling ampuh pake compound. Dan ga akan hilang 100% kalau pake tangan, dgn catatan mobilnya swirlnya lumayan ya, kalau mobil baru kyk om WK1 sih pasti masih minim swirl.

1. Untuk hilangin kontaminasi yang tak terlihat, sbg contoh om WK1 sehabis cuci mbl dan dikeringkan, coba saja untuk raba body apakah mulus sekali atau seperti bertekstur, nah kalau bertekstur sudah saatnya untuk claying. Karena kalau langsung compound tanpa di clay, takutnya kotoran yg tak terlihat tadi ikut tergosok2 dan malah menyebabkan baret

2. Kalau compound utk hilangin defect, salah 1 nya swirl dan baret halus, kalau baret yg agak dalam mungkin harus wet sanding baru bisa tersamar. Utk kotoran burung pakai Bug and Tar Remover bisa hilang

3. Kalau polish untuk mengembalikan kilau cat

4. Wax untuk memproteksi cat, setau saya kalau coating (PPS / Ichi Autocare) beda lagi


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Re: Car Detailing Lounge - PART 07

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em setau ane yg newbie sih yah klo polishing itu tidak menghilangkan baret gan.. klo polishing itu cuman kaya ngelapisin/menyamarkan baretan dengan cara mengisi lubang2 dr baretan tersebut jdi seperti hilang namun tidak bersifat menghilangkan..
berbeda dgn compound klo coumpound baru bersifat mengikis lubang di clearcoat tersebut jd rata dengan clearcoat yg ga baret n baret itu pun bsa hilang..

tapi mohon dikoreksi yah klo ad slh hehehe
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Belphegor wrote:Nubie sotoy bantu jawab ya, belum pernah selama ini pakai Soft99 meta clean, tapi kalau liat dari kotaknya apakah ini cleaner wax? Dan selama diaplikasi, apa swirl dan baret halus bisa hilang kalau pake ini?

Setau saya sih tahapan dalam detailing itu: Washing - Claying - Compound - Polishing - Waxing. Logikanya utk hilangin swirl dan baret halus minimal harus di polish, kalau masih belum hilang baru turun ke compound. Saya pribadi kebanyakan pakai produk meg: Gold Class Shampoo - Meg Clay + Quick Detailer - Ultimate Compound - Menzerna FG400 - NXT 2.0 / Meg Gold Class Carnauba Paste Wax.

Kalau cuci mobil pakai shampoo bayi sih saya blum pernah ya, tapi logikanya daya cleaningnya bakal terlalu lemah untuk hilangin debu & kontaminasi. Meski dicuci pake GC Shampoo sih wax ga akan luntur, saya sdh pernah coba eksperimen di finishing pad nempel wax, terus saya rendam pakai GC Shampoo selama 1 hari, ternyata wax tidak hilang sama sekali.

IMO & CMIIW
Bro.. abis UC lanjut k FG400 apa ga terlalu bombardir ya? FG kan daya cutnya tinggi kan? setara ama 105?
btw fg400 debunya minim ya>?
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sepi amat ni forum.. +p
fur10usx wrote:em setau ane yg newbie sih yah klo polishing itu tidak menghilangkan baret gan.. klo polishing itu cuman kaya ngelapisin/menyamarkan baretan dengan cara mengisi lubang2 dr baretan tersebut jdi seperti hilang namun tidak bersifat menghilangkan..
berbeda dgn compound klo coumpound baru bersifat mengikis lubang di clearcoat tersebut jd rata dengan clearcoat yg ga baret n baret itu pun bsa hilang..

tapi mohon dikoreksi yah klo ad slh hehehe
cleaner wax mostly punya daya fillere untuk menyamarkan swirl..
beda dengan polish.. polish daya cutnya lbh besar dibandingkan dengan cleaner wax..
compound mang tujuannya untuk mengikis clearcoat.. untuk mengikis lapisan yang rusak.. akan tetapi, karena daya kikisnya kuat. makanya hasilnya kasar.. sering kali muncul yang namanya holo, micro marring.. or bahkan swirl ringan..
makanya dibutuhkan step yang namanya polishing..
sama sperti sanding.. pertama 1000 - 1500 - 2000 - 2500 - 3000 - 4000..
ketika sanding 4000 hasilnya sudah mulai terlihat gloss..
makanya.. kadang untuk dapatkan hasil bagus.. bs 3 step dalam polishing..
compound - polishing - jeweling... baru wax..

CMIIW ya.. =)
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A18 wrote:sepi amat ni forum.. +p
bbrp dah pada pensiun
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andy1800 wrote:
A18 wrote:sepi amat ni forum.. +p
bbrp dah pada pensiun
Iya neh agan kios3r jg dah ngk muntjul di mari :mky_05:
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Guys, mau sharing hasil wetsanding pakai mesin Dual Action. Mobil habis repaint bagasinya karena di-'cium' truk Desember kemarin. kondisi sehabis repaint, kulit jeruk ciri khas body repaint yang buat cat tidak kinclong +permukaan yang tidak rata akibat dempul / sol-2 an. Semoga bisa menambah pengetahuan buat teman-2 detailer.

Sekalian review Blackfire Compound, ada bos besar minta tolong di-riview. :)
Mampu menghilangkan sanding mark 1500-2000.
Hasil review:
1. Easy to use & pemakaian yang ekonomis
2. Non splatter formula & non dusting
3. Glossnya bagus
4. Near perfect finish, bisa langsung ke step finish polish.

Cocok nih buat dijadikan salah satu ammo andalan buat para detailer.
My Rating :ok::ok::ok::ok:

Ammo:
Masking tape murmer
Porter Cable XP Dual Action
6" Backing plate Lake Country
6" Mirka Abralon grit #2000
Blackfire Compound
LC 4" Purple Foam Pad
LC 4" White CCS Polishing Pad
H2O Sprayer
MF
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Gelombang karena dempul/sol-2an. Mudah-2an keliatan ya, fotonya juga susah.
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Permukaan setelah di wetsand. BUREK Bro!!!
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Sayang lampunya kurang panjang, mudah-2an bisa kelihatan perbandingan permukaan yang sudah diperfecting (permukaan di luar emblem Nissan) dengan yang belum (di dalam lingakaran emblem)
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Wah sepi bgt thread.
Gulung tiker detailer di SM. Hehehe
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gioprivatemove wrote:Wah sepi bgt thread.
Gulung tiker detailer di SM. Hehehe
Keabisan kata2 om Gio. mo kritik ga bisa, soalnya kerjaan om Gio udah rapi bgt.....
Cuma bisa nganga doang liat kerjaan om Gio
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WK1 wrote:
gioprivatemove wrote:Wah sepi bgt thread.
Gulung tiker detailer di SM. Hehehe
Keabisan kata2 om Gio. mo kritik ga bisa, soalnya kerjaan om Gio udah rapi bgt.....
Cuma bisa nganga doang liat kerjaan om Gio
yg ane terheran2 sm Gio tu tenaga nya itu loh... itu orang gak pernah kentut apa bigimana yak :off_sleep:
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andy1800 wrote:
WK1 wrote: Keabisan kata2 om Gio. mo kritik ga bisa, soalnya kerjaan om Gio udah rapi bgt.....
Cuma bisa nganga doang liat kerjaan om Gio
yg ane terheran2 sm Gio tu tenaga nya itu loh... itu orang gak pernah kentut apa bigimana yak :off_sleep:
Kentutnya om gio bisa ngilangin debu lo om
jadi kalau ada debu dikit, tinggal kentutin aja
:ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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demikian sebaliknya kalau anda merasa tidak lucu berarti anda beneran tidak lucu
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WK1 wrote:
gioprivatemove wrote:Wah sepi bgt thread.
Gulung tiker detailer di SM. Hehehe
Keabisan kata2 om Gio. mo kritik ga bisa, soalnya kerjaan om Gio udah rapi bgt.....
Cuma bisa nganga doang liat kerjaan om Gio
Wah thank you Om... pikir uda gak ada yg ke thread ini.

@Om Andy
Bukan masalah tenaga om, tp hati... ekekekekekek.

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Luar biasa emang ilmunya om Gio, coba ada coaching clinic yg pimpin om Gio, ane pasti langsung daftar :mrgreen:
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Yaah terlambat deh bro...dulu tuh, pas agak awal2 Gio menegakkan bendera Crytal Blizz, kita2 srg kok dikasih coaching clinic...yaah kita mah cukup bawain gula+teh+sigaret aja, ala pergi ke dukun gitu deh...hahahaa
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Ah om belphegor bisaan aja. Hehehe.
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Om Andy, pasti skrg ilmunya om Gio jauh diatas jaman dulu kala, ayo todong om Gio untuk kasi coaching clinic kembali :mky_02:
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Kirim aja mbl om belphegor ke garasi ane. Hahahaa
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ya iya lah om belp...lha ni aja dah kliatan, kita2 muridnya aja dah pada pensiun...eh, dianya msh nge-gymmmm terus hari2...makanya ane bilang ni org gak ada kentutnya apa ya..bs 3 hari 3 malem tuh elus2 klir kot...
Itu aja ane mmg baru bicara fisik ya...emang bener yg Gio bilang, belom lg klo dah bicara hati...contohnya nih..pas lg gitu, kita kasih gratifikasi kelas tggi mo yg semlohay apa pun, hatinya gak bakalan bergeming dah....uwkwkwkk
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Belphegor wrote:Om Andy, pasti skrg ilmunya om Gio jauh diatas jaman dulu kala, ayo todong om Gio untuk kasi coaching clinic kembali :mky_02:
Iya setuju bro, ikutan dong coaching kliniknya.....
gioprivatemove wrote:Kirim aja mbl om belphegor ke garasi ane. Hahahaa
Om Gio, kalo ikutan boleh ga? hahaha ngarep nih om....
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andy1800 wrote:
WK1 wrote:
gioprivatemove wrote:Wah sepi bgt thread.
Gulung tiker detailer di SM. Hehehe
Keabisan kata2 om Gio. mo kritik ga bisa, soalnya kerjaan om Gio udah rapi bgt.....
Cuma bisa nganga doang liat kerjaan om Gio
yg ane terheran2 sm Gio tu tenaga nya itu loh... itu orang gak pernah kentut apa bigimana yak :off_sleep:
nubie ikut memantau ahh.. :ngacir:
Permisii :ungg: ............................. :ngacir:
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eh laporin ke momod
ada yg master nyamar jd nubie diatas ane..
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halo nubie semua... salam nubie yaa....dari nubie buat nubie
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ttg ichi nano dr trid review nya itu.
ini kan sbnernya ada 2 hal yg terpisah ya:
- proses detailing. yg ini gak perlu dibahas dl lah ya.
- trus proses apply nano2annya itu. nah ini yg pgn ngerti.


sbenernya aplikasi nano2annya itu prosesnya digimanain sih? cm dipeperin n spread spt kita apply wax biasanya gitu? cuma bedanya, ngebiarin curingnya itu yg waktunya dilama2in aja? atau pake teknik pemanasan? diangetin segala pake heatgun/hairdyer gitu?

itu nano2annya bentuknya apa? cair? paste?
trus apa bedanya sm nano2annya Carlack? kok kayaknya gak beda signifikan ya? kayaknya yg membedakan cm gimmick nya aja apa yak?
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Wah pertanyaan yg menarik nih ama bung andy, yg bikin ane penasaran jg.
Nunggu suhunya kasih penjelasan neh....