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proton suprima tdk rontok di gunakan extreme driving

salesperson nya yg ikut, yg rontok bravery n dia bilang sy bawa mobil cara nya kurang wajar
n sy balas kalo dia jualan brand yg tdk wajar n sy bantu spy public tau ini mobil punya durability wajar n sy minta baik baik spy dia diam
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newrubble wrote:proton suprima tdk rontok di gunakan extreme driving

salesperson nya yg ikut, yg rontok bravery n dia bilang sy bawa mobil cara nya kurang wajar
n sy balas kalo dia jualan brand yg tdk wajar n sy bantu spy public tau ini mobil punya durability wajar n sy minta baik baik spy dia diam
Jadi proton suprima mobil yg bagus om? Jarang pernah kedengeran sih dimarih, kurang promosi :ungg:
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Nyetir seruntulan kok kesan nya ngak enak dilihat ya... seperti anak abg2 yang bawa motor2 alay gitu... ngak pake helm, motornya sisa chasis sajaa, dan ngak mikir safety nya (maklum masih muda) heheheh


Kalo cuman high speed di toll sih masih elegan dan anggun dilihat nya
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Utk test drive secara optimal, seorang test driver juga harus tahu area2 favorit tertentu utk melakukan TD.......baik area utk menikung kencang / test peredaman (aspal kasar) dan area semi off-road utk test mobil D-Cab / SUV.......
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newrubble wrote:proton suprima tdk rontok di gunakan extreme driving

salesperson nya yg ikut, yg rontok bravery n dia bilang sy bawa mobil cara nya kurang wajar
n sy balas kalo dia jualan brand yg tdk wajar n sy bantu spy public tau ini mobil punya durability wajar n sy minta baik baik spy dia diam
agreed, kalo jualan brand yang kurang punya "nama" di sini sih harus rada "ekstrim" marketingnya. belakangan yang sering melakukan ini : Subaru.

event TD diberi rintangan-rintangan untuk menguji kelebihan dari Symmetrical AWD Subaru supaya orang pada aware. dan terbukti, di kota besar seperti Jkt dan Sby, Subaru mulai berkembang. Di Sby sendiri setiap nglencer ke Sby barat XV dan Forester udah jadi mobil yang cukup pasaran.

even di Semarang yang notabene kota kecil pun Subaru mulai pelan-pelan bangkit di tangan dealer barunya
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artoodetoo wrote:Kalau saya ngereview sih ambil sudut pandang orang awam, wong saya juga awam :upss:
Gak ngerti itu istilah macem2, pokoknya digas rasanya gimana, direm rasanya gimana, kalo bisa ngebut rasanya gimana, lewat jalan keriting rasanya gimana. Ya begitulah :big_grin:
Sependapat dengan mod droid.
So kadang pakai style fibi, kadang pakai style ryan. Depends on.

Tapi mostly jarang saya bikin pedal to metal, kecuali mobil saya sendiri..

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Unit test drive milik ATPM ya memang unit tsb sudah dianggap spt expenses utk advertising cost aja......jadi kalau misalnya mesinnya jebol / mesin rusak berat yah memang sudah dihitung sebelumnya

Jadi ya utk test drive unit TD milik ATPM silakan saja mau nyetir-nya kayak apapun juga, asal tetap utama Safety, baik bagi pengguna jalan lain / yg nemenin test drive dan diri sendiri....... jangan sampai merugikan / mencelakakan pengguna jalan lain, ini yang paling penting.......maka itu saya biasanya cari area sepi utk bejek to the maksimum / nikung sampai roda berdecit2

Selain test high speed driving / manuver pada kecepatan tinggi (jika jalan memungkinkan), saya juga test bawa santai / sangat santai / sangat pelan, sambil amati proses shifting Maticnya / Turbo-Lag-nya (utk yg Turbo)........nggak sedikiit lho mobil2 yg saat dibawa pelan menunjukkan karakter yg agak sedikit aneh / kurang nyaman.........
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Turboman wrote:Unit test drive milik ATPM ya memang unit tsb sudah dianggap spt expenses utk advertising cost aja......jadi kalau misalnya mesinnya jebol / mesin rusak berat yah memang sudah dihitung sebelumnya

Jadi ya utk test drive unit TD milik ATPM silakan saja mau nyetir-nya kayak apapun juga, asal tetap utama Safety, baik bagi pengguna jalan lain / yg nemenin test drive dan diri sendiri....... jangan sampai merugikan / mencelakakan pengguna jalan lain, ini yang paling penting.......maka itu saya biasanya cari area sepi utk bejek to the maksimum / nikung sampai roda berdecit2

Selain test high speed driving / manuver pada kecepatan tinggi (jika jalan memungkinkan), saya juga test bawa santai / sangat santai / sangat pelan, sambil amati proses shifting Maticnya / Turbo-Lag-nya (utk yg Turbo)........nggak sedikiit lho mobil2 yg saat dibawa pelan menunjukkan karakter yg agak sedikit aneh / kurang nyaman.........
Berarti waktu ane TD Masdah E2000 (Bongo) jaman SMA dahulu, ngga salah yah kalok ane kepotin itu minibus di belokan SMEA N1 Ringroad utara, dan hajar jalanan depan STIE YKPN jaman dia baru dibangun, dimana jalanan masih keriting bekas aspal dikelupas?
Nyaman abisss tuh shock absorber. Dikepotin juga ngga se ngeri kalo bawak futura.

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Turboman wrote: Selain test high speed driving / manuver pada kecepatan tinggi (jika jalan memungkinkan), saya juga test bawa santai / sangat santai / sangat pelan, sambil amati proses shifting Maticnya / Turbo-Lag-nya (utk yg Turbo)........nggak sedikiit lho mobil2 yg saat dibawa pelan menunjukkan karakter yg agak sedikit aneh / kurang nyaman.........
e.g : VW Golf TSI MK6, VW Tiguan 1.4 TSI. kedua mobil ini terasa banget jerkinessnya waktu dibawa pelan di macet-macet. Mobil bawaannya mau nonjok melulu. Nyentak di Subaru WRX STi A-Line juga sangat nggak nyaman kalo dibawa macet. Subaru Forester turbo lagnya juga sangat mengganggu.

tapi begitu ditarik dan dibawa ngebut sih berasa sangat menyenangkan :big_smoking:

Untungnya di Golf TSI MK7 udah less-jerky dan lebih smooth DSGnya.
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VanzMatic wrote: Berarti waktu ane TD Masdah E2000 (Bongo) jaman SMA dahulu, ngga salah yah kalok ane kepotin itu minibus di belokan SMEA N1 Ringroad utara, dan hajar jalanan depan STIE YKPN jaman dia baru dibangun, dimana jalanan masih keriting bekas aspal dikelupas?
Nyaman abisss tuh shock absorber. Dikepotin juga ngga se ngeri kalo bawak futura.

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ChZ wrote:
VanzMatic wrote: Berarti waktu ane TD Masdah E2000 (Bongo) jaman SMA dahulu, ngga salah yah kalok ane kepotin itu minibus di belokan SMEA N1 Ringroad utara, dan hajar jalanan depan STIE YKPN jaman dia baru dibangun, dimana jalanan masih keriting bekas aspal dikelupas?
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sama sama ngepot pake MPV :ngacir: :ngacir:
ente masih pake SIM A om? Ki Lurah dah pake SIM B2... :big_grin:
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maskopat wrote: ente masih pake SIM A om? Ki Lurah dah pake SIM B2... :big_grin:
tuh kan serem :ngacir: :ngacir: ane mah ngga ada apa apanya :big_childish:
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ChZ wrote:
maskopat wrote: ente masih pake SIM A om? Ki Lurah dah pake SIM B2... :big_grin:
tuh kan serem :ngacir: :ngacir: ane mah ngga ada apa apanya :big_childish:
bener om.. serem emang Ki Lurah. dibalik penampilannya yang low profile, skill drivingnya.... beeeeuuh....
om chz tarik handbrake dan banting stir masih pake kendaraan dengan 2 sumbu roda kan? Ki Lurah dah pake kendaraan 3 sumbu roda om...
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maskopat wrote:
ChZ wrote:
maskopat wrote: ente masih pake SIM A om? Ki Lurah dah pake SIM B2... :big_grin:
tuh kan serem :ngacir: :ngacir: ane mah ngga ada apa apanya :big_childish:
bener om.. serem emang Ki Lurah. dibalik penampilannya yang low profile, skill drivingnya.... beeeeuuh....
om chz tarik handbrake dan banting stir masih pake kendaraan dengan 2 sumbu roda kan? Ki Lurah dah pake kendaraan 3 sumbu roda om...
Lebih jago lagi kalo berani ngepot pake kendaraan roda 3 :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
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melipir dolo.... sungkem sama om Van... diem-diem mematikan :frm_salut: :frm_salut:
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ChZ wrote: e.g : VW Golf TSI MK6, VW Tiguan 1.4 TSI. kedua mobil ini terasa banget jerkinessnya waktu dibawa pelan di macet-macet. Mobil bawaannya mau nonjok melulu. Nyentak di Subaru WRX STi A-Line juga sangat nggak nyaman kalo dibawa macet. Subaru Forester turbo lagnya juga sangat mengganggu.

tapi begitu ditarik dan dibawa ngebut sih berasa sangat menyenangkan :big_smoking:

Untungnya di Golf TSI MK7 udah less-jerky dan lebih smooth DSGnya.
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Matur Nuwun om semua..

mau tanya kalau hard cornering itu speed around brp yg dijamin mobilnya ga kebalik ? mobil nya hatchback compact...

kalau coba belok2 di cone begitu, tanpa cone nya susah jg ya perkirain kapan counter turn nya lagi..

lagi cari di jkt kira2 dimana tempat yg kosong dan aman utk TD..
utk test limbung tempat yg cocok di tol dpan citraland arah ke taman anggrek.

@bro Chz, jerky itu rasanya sperti apa y ?
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wah om keretalaut. susah, ga ada fix nya itu mah..tergantung handling drivernya
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Tergantung skill dan nyali driver serta kemampuan mobilnya. Kalo compact hb mungkin cobain di 80 km/h, soalnya ane pake patokan APV cornering di 60 km/h mobil uda serasa siap terguling.
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tergantung corneringnya bener2 90derajat apa ga
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maskopat wrote:
ChZ wrote:
maskopat wrote: ente masih pake SIM A om? Ki Lurah dah pake SIM B2... :big_grin:
tuh kan serem :ngacir: :ngacir: ane mah ngga ada apa apanya :big_childish:
bener om.. serem emang Ki Lurah. dibalik penampilannya yang low profile, skill drivingnya.... beeeeuuh....
om chz tarik handbrake dan banting stir masih pake kendaraan dengan 2 sumbu roda kan? Ki Lurah dah pake kendaraan 3 sumbu roda om...
Sim B2? Itu si ngepot pake truk kontainer 40 feet dan truk gandeng.
Kalo cuma ngepot pake tronton si cukup sim B1.
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keretalaut wrote:Matur Nuwun om semua..

mau tanya kalau hard cornering itu speed around brp yg dijamin mobilnya ga kebalik ? mobil nya hatchback compact...

kalau coba belok2 di cone begitu, tanpa cone nya susah jg ya perkirain kapan counter turn nya lagi..

lagi cari di jkt kira2 dimana tempat yg kosong dan aman utk TD..
utk test limbung tempat yg cocok di tol dpan citraland arah ke taman anggrek.

@bro Chz, jerky itu rasanya sperti apa y ?
kalo cornering satu tikungan, mobil hb sekarang rasanya sudah gak gampang terbalik selama jalannya mulus dan bukan tikungan negatif (sudut kemiringan jalan benar).

seberapa cepatnya, bergantung jari2 tikungan (orang suka salah kaprah dengan menyebut sudut), hal ini ditentukan dengan namanya lateral acceleration. sebagai gambaran, mobil hb kecil dengan ban standar, biasanya di kisaran 0.8-1.0G

untuk tahu limbung atau tidak dan mengetest kemampuan respons suspensi terhadap tikungan, bisa dengan cone test. seberapa cepat kendaraan meliuk2 di antara cone2 tersebut. ane gak tahu apakah ada standar jarak antar cone dan berapa banyak cone.
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Ngomong1 G itu. Gimana caranya kita tau seberapa G itu ya..seberapa kuat trus gimana kita perkiraiinnya ya om?