Troubleshooting Mazda 323 Trendynamic(need help)

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Re: [ASK] cari kabel plus starter

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sepertinya om purpone seneng dng utak atik DIY, menantang dan merepotkan tapi hasilnya memuaskan... :D
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wuah bang jalu mmg mantap ilmunya :D
Harus banyak belajar dr bang jalu ini, soalnya gak ngerti mobil bensin :frm_salut:
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Re: [ASK] cari kabel plus starter

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coba aja dicheck continuity kabelnya pake alat ukur
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biasanya letak dinamo starter deket mesin di bagian samping mesin...... coba liat ada satu kabel tunggal, nah klo kabel itu dilepas soketnya, mk mbl ga bisa distarter......nah, itu adalah kabel yg dimaksud......
btw emangnya kenapa lagi mbl nt........ :e-think: ....

sebelonnya n sesudahnya ane mengucapkan banyak terima kasih atas penjelasannya................. :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: .........
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Re: [ASK] cari kabel plus starter

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doq wrote:bukan nya waktu itu oom purpone udah bikin tret mengenai ini yah?? http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... =5&t=14721
dan klo ga salah mesin nya uda berhasil nyala khan oom? mank knapa lagi oom? :e-think:
yuuup...bener banget,cuma waktu itu nanya cara pasang koil botol,kalo mesin nyala sih nyala cuma penasaran tuh cara pasangnya kabel2 ke resistornya,biar gak nganggur tuh resistor
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jalu wrote:sepertinya om purpone seneng dng utak atik DIY, menantang dan merepotkan tapi hasilnya memuaskan... :D
hehehehe......ketemu lagi ma om jalu yg baik hati,udah balasin problem ane udah gitu di kasih gambar2 skemanya,iya om ane cuma penasaran aja tuh ama koil,biar gak nganggur
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sjamsul wrote:biasanya letak dinamo starter deket mesin di bagian samping mesin...... coba liat ada satu kabel tunggal, nah klo kabel itu dilepas soketnya, mk mbl ga bisa distarter......nah, itu adalah kabel yg dimaksud......
btw emangnya kenapa lagi mbl nt........ :e-think: ....

sebelonnya n sesudahnya ane mengucapkan banyak terima kasih atas penjelasannya................. :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: .........
oh gitu toh...oke deh biar ane coba lagi,ntar kalo udah bisa ane pasti wajib lapor deh(kayak tersangka aja pake wajib lapor)
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[ASK] RPM NGADAT

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RPM digital ane ngadat om,meski hawa di dlm kabin panas RPMnya gak bergeming tetep di bar paling bawah,cuma pas pertama kali kontak posisi on rpm nya naik mentok keatas trus turun lagi keposisi bar 1(asumsi ane brarti sistem elektrik di speedo gak bermasalah,tp itu asumsi newbie loh)apa aja yg harus dicek yg berhubungan dgn RPM,buat om2 jgn bosen yah ama pertanyaan ane newbie ini,itung2 nambah pahala ngebantuin orang,maklum mobil jadul tp penuh perjuangan ngedapetinnya(ekonomi pas2an)
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Mbl nya apa mas?:)
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ZombiEE wrote:Mbl nya apa mas?:)
mazda 323 trendynamic oom
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btw oom erpurpone, berhubung ini seputar permasalahan di mobil yg sama, gmana klo topik2 yg oom buat di gabung aja? trus nanti judul nya bsa di ubah menjadi "Troubleshooting Mazda 323 Trendynamic" atau yg lain gtu?
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doq wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Mbl nya apa mas?:)
mazda 323 trendynamic oom
wah...moderatornya hapal nih....
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doq wrote:btw oom erpurpone, berhubung ini seputar permasalahan di mobil yg sama, gmana klo topik2 yg oom buat di gabung aja? trus nanti judul nya bsa di ubah menjadi "Troubleshooting Mazda 323 Trendynamic" atau yg lain gtu?
Dimaksudkan biar lbh rapih aja nih :mrgreen: :big_peace:
okelah kalo begitu om...trus kalo udah terlanjur begini gimana dong ?!?!?!?
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no problemo oom, nanti sy beresin :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Sorry bang...kaga bisa nge bantu lagi....tp kalo logika nya gini, modul spido idup, mgkn sensor rpm mesin ko'it:)
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erpurpone wrote:
doq wrote:btw oom erpurpone, berhubung ini seputar permasalahan di mobil yg sama, gmana klo topik2 yg oom buat di gabung aja? trus nanti judul nya bsa di ubah menjadi "Troubleshooting Mazda 323 Trendynamic" atau yg lain gtu?
Dimaksudkan biar lbh rapih aja nih :mrgreen: :big_peace:
okelah kalo begitu om...trus kalo udah terlanjur begini gimana dong ?!?!?!?

Sudah beres oom :big_smoking:
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ZombiEE wrote:Sorry bang...kaga bisa nge bantu lagi....tp kalo logika nya gini, modul spido idup, mgkn sensor rpm mesin ko'it:)
dulu saya pernah miara mbl yg serupa dng milik TS, meski displaynya digital tapi sensor rpmnya masih sederhana yaitu dari kutub (-) coil. Terus terang saya pernah mengalami problem yg persis dng TS yaitu pembacaan tachometer/rpm ngaco. Waktu itu solusinya dng merapikan wiring diseputar koil dan mengganti kabel busi & kabel koil 1 set.

btw, beda tipe koil yg digunakan jg bs menyebabkan pembacaan displaynya jd ngaco, entah kenapa sebabnya, yg jelas coil yg cocok di mbl 323 saya dulu itu Denso GT Coil (Internal resistor)
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doq wrote:
erpurpone wrote:
doq wrote:btw oom erpurpone, berhubung ini seputar permasalahan di mobil yg sama, gmana klo topik2 yg oom buat di gabung aja? trus nanti judul nya bsa di ubah menjadi "Troubleshooting Mazda 323 Trendynamic" atau yg lain gtu?
Dimaksudkan biar lbh rapih aja nih :mrgreen: :big_peace:
okelah kalo begitu om...trus kalo udah terlanjur begini gimana dong ?!?!?!?

Sudah beres oom :big_smoking:
thank you so much..... :big_peace:
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jalu wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Sorry bang...kaga bisa nge bantu lagi....tp kalo logika nya gini, modul spido idup, mgkn sensor rpm mesin ko'it:)
dulu saya pernah miara mbl yg serupa dng milik TS, meski displaynya digital tapi sensor rpmnya masih sederhana yaitu dari kutub (-) coil. Terus terang saya pernah mengalami problem yg persis dng TS yaitu pembacaan tachometer/rpm ngaco. Waktu itu solusinya dng merapikan wiring diseputar koil dan mengganti kabel busi & kabel koil 1 set.

btw, beda tipe koil yg digunakan jg bs menyebabkan pembacaan displaynya jd ngaco, entah kenapa sebabnya, yg jelas coil yg cocok di mbl 323 saya dulu itu Denso GT Coil (Internal resistor)
ok om,thanks pencerahannya,koil yg baru ane beli merknya HITACHI,coba ane pelajari pelan2 tentang perKOILan n wiring mobil deh :thanks: oh ya om mumpung ketemu ma om jalu,waktu ane bongkar rumah thermostatnya ternyata tuh thermostat kagak ada,apa mungkin ini yg membuat display temperatur di speedo kagak bergerak,emang ada hubungannya gak sih om
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ZombiEE wrote:Sorry bang...kaga bisa nge bantu lagi....tp kalo logika nya gini, modul spido idup, mgkn sensor rpm mesin ko'it:)
iya kali ya,mungkin sensor yg modar,harus bongkar speedo dulu deh huuuhhhh capek.......dibantu sama do'a aja bang hehehe
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erpurpone wrote:
jalu wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Sorry bang...kaga bisa nge bantu lagi....tp kalo logika nya gini, modul spido idup, mgkn sensor rpm mesin ko'it:)
dulu saya pernah miara mbl yg serupa dng milik TS, meski displaynya digital tapi sensor rpmnya masih sederhana yaitu dari kutub (-) coil. Terus terang saya pernah mengalami problem yg persis dng TS yaitu pembacaan tachometer/rpm ngaco. Waktu itu solusinya dng merapikan wiring diseputar koil dan mengganti kabel busi & kabel koil 1 set.

btw, beda tipe koil yg digunakan jg bs menyebabkan pembacaan displaynya jd ngaco, entah kenapa sebabnya, yg jelas coil yg cocok di mbl 323 saya dulu itu Denso GT Coil (Internal resistor)
ok om,thanks pencerahannya,koil yg baru ane beli merknya HITACHI,coba ane pelajari pelan2 tentang perKOILan n wiring mobil deh :thanks: oh ya om mumpung ketemu ma om jalu,waktu ane bongkar rumah thermostatnya ternyata tuh thermostat kagak ada,apa mungkin ini yg membuat display temperatur di speedo kagak bergerak,emang ada hubungannya gak sih om
setau saya, klo tanpa thermostat problem yg timbul di tiap mobil berbeda oom. Ada yg jarum temp. susah naik/mencapai suh ideal, ada jg yg jarum temp. nya tetap normal berada di suhu ideal. Nah di mazda nya oom erpurpone ini yg gimana? apa jarum temp. bener2 ga gerak sama sekali?? ato sebener nya tetap bergerak, tapi lambaaat bgt? ini kejadian nya saat mobil di nyalain/ dipake berapa lama oom?
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Re: Troubleshooting Mazda 323 Trendynamic(need help)

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mobi ini ane beli bulan oktober 2010,temperaturnya gak bergerak meski dipake dari pagi sampe siang panas terikpun temperatur gak bergeming,cuma pertama kali mesin hidup posisi kontak ON temperratur naik ampe atas trus turun lagi kebawah selama2nya,emang ada hubnya gak sih antara temperatur dng thermostat,kalo ada ane mau pasang deh thermonya
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ooo gtu, klo gtu ini masalah nya bukan di thermostat yg di lepas sy rasa, ada kemungkinan ini berhubungan dg sensor2 yg kotor/rusak cmiiw. Soal nya rpm jg sama begini jg khan??
analisa saya, saat kontak, modul2 di speedo mendapat aliran listrik=normal (bar digital bergerak) tp saat mesin nyala justru ga bergerak. Makanya menurut saya, kemungkinan di sensor2 atawa malah seperti yg oom jalu bilang, ketidak cocokan sama koil.

klo speedometer nya sendiri di mazda ini digital jg om? dan berfungsi normalkah?
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erpurpone wrote:mobi ini ane beli bulan oktober 2010,temperaturnya gak bergerak meski dipake dari pagi sampe siang panas terikpun temperatur gak bergeming,cuma pertama kali mesin hidup posisi kontak ON temperratur naik ampe atas trus turun lagi kebawah selama2nya,emang ada hubnya gak sih antara temperatur dng thermostat,kalo ada ane mau pasang deh thermonya
kemungkinan pemilik sebelumnya sudah membuat rombakan namun bs saja salah kaprah.

radiator orsinil bawaan mazda 323/laser lawas itu bagian tutup atas dan bawahnya dr plastik, seiring dng waktu tentu bagian tsb mulai rapuh dan bocor mengakibatkan overheat. Dr sini byk user yg salah kaprah dengan mencabut thermostat supaya gak overheat lagi, padahal yg rusak itu radiatornya

rata2 mazda 323/laser lawas yg saya temui sudah jarang sekali yg radiatornya msh orsinil, kebanyakan sudah dirombak pake bahan logam, bahkan ada yg ganti radiatornya pake mbl lain yg 2 ply.

Saran saya, sebaiknya thermostat dipasang, tidak usah kuatir kalo setelah pasah thermostat lalu indikator temp bermain di range tengah2 krn memang begitu karakternya.
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doq wrote:ooo gtu, klo gtu ini masalah nya bukan di thermostat yg di lepas sy rasa, ada kemungkinan ini berhubungan dg sensor2 yg kotor/rusak cmiiw. Soal nya rpm jg sama begini jg khan??
analisa saya, saat kontak, modul2 di speedo mendapat aliran listrik=normal (bar digital bergerak) tp saat mesin nyala justru ga bergerak. Makanya menurut saya, kemungkinan di sensor2 atawa malah seperti yg oom jalu bilang, ketidak cocokan sama koil.

klo speedometer nya sendiri di mazda ini digital jg om? dan berfungsi normalkah?
speedo digitalnya semua normal,kecuali yg satu ntu om,mungkin jg sensornya ya sperti kata om zombee bilang
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