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doq wrote:yaaa klo itu sih cuma masalah daya serap aja meneer Image
Bukannya masalah jalur lambat, jalur cepat atau jalur toll, gan.....?


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rasanya ya.
innova yang euro 2 itu tahun 2007 dengan closed loop dan CC untuk memenuhi euro 2.
entah ya kalo apanja.. :ungg:
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Habanja pi-pi-ti-ai udh closed loop en ber cc. Longok aja cc nya jelas keliatan di bawah gitu..
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Sundul ah sunduuulll......

Berikut hasil tes emisi AvG AT kuw...

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CO : 0.00%
CO2 : 12.7%
HC : 0043 ppm
O2 : 3.21%
Lambda : 1,174

Bagaimana tuh, agan2...?
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VanzMatic wrote:Sundul ah sunduuulll......

Berikut hasil tes emisi AvG AT kuw...

(berhubung nge-add attachment nya ngga bisa pas 800x600 pixels, ya udah aku salin aja)

CO : 0.00%
CO2 : 12.7%
HC : 0043 ppm
O2 : 3.21%
Lambda : 1,174

Bagaimana tuh, agan2...?
:big_peace:
rasanya AFR kok agak/terlalu lean ya...? :e-think:
apalagi emisi O2-nya diatas 3%
coba cek exhaust-nya juga :e-think:

kalo keterusan lean, takutnya mesin kepanasan... kalo pas ganti/cek busi, sekalian liatin pemantiknya, kalo warnanya putih/berkerak putih, berarti memang terlalu lean/kepanasan, atau businya memang ga cocok

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imsus2c wrote:
VanzMatic wrote:Sundul ah sunduuulll......

Berikut hasil tes emisi AvG AT kuw...

(berhubung nge-add attachment nya ngga bisa pas 800x600 pixels, ya udah aku salin aja)

CO : 0.00%
CO2 : 12.7%
HC : 0043 ppm
O2 : 3.21%
Lambda : 1,174

Bagaimana tuh, agan2...?
:big_peace:
rasanya AFR kok agak/terlalu lean ya...? :e-think:
apalagi emisi O2-nya diatas 3%
coba cek exhaust-nya juga :e-think:

kalo keterusan lean, takutnya mesin kepanasan... kalo pas ganti/cek busi, sekalian liatin pemantiknya, kalo warnanya putih/berkerak putih, berarti memang terlalu lean/kepanasan, atau businya memang ga cocok

btw, odo sudah jalan berapa?
Odo baru 4.806 selama 7 bulan ini oom... :oops: untuk busi, ane juga liatin, sebelum dibersihin ama mekanik, ke 4 nya berwarna merah bata oom...

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^^^
wah....masih seger dan jarang jalan ya? :mrgreen:

btw, tar kalo tune up, tanyain aja kenapa AFR-nya terlalu lean dan emisi O2nya realatif tinggi...

atau coba bandingkan dengan hasil test emisi dari kendaraan sejenis :D
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imsus2c wrote:^^^
wah....masih seger dan jarang jalan ya? :mrgreen:

btw, tar kalo tune up, tanyain aja kenapa AFR-nya terlalu lean dan emisi O2nya realatif tinggi...

atau coba bandingkan dengan hasil test emisi dari kendaraan sejenis :D
Hanya mobil weekend aja kog oom..... :oops: :oops:

Itu udh tune up oom.. Ganti oli, tune up, uji emisi, cukup Rp 130.000 (excl engine oil).

Tapi, untuk emisi gas buang beracunnya, dibanding standar Euro2, apakah lebih baik nih oom? Kalo iya, berapa % lebih baiknya? Kalo emisi Euro3, parameternya gimana? Sebab di link yang ada di om Wiki itu, bingung saya nyamain parameternya, kok beda dan ngga nyambung..... :shrug: :shrug: http://www.ndesogaknyambung.co.id
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baleno g16b '97

co 1,03 [%vol]
co2 12,3 [%vol]
hc 0339[ppm vol]
o2 04,0 [%vol]

co correction 1,15 [%vol]
lambda 1,155
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nampaknya, kadar HC tinggi banget ya oom doq? Kayaknya untuk mobil karbu, batasnya maksimal 300ppm deh oom.. trus itu O2 nya lebih tinggi dari mobil saya? Agak bingung deh.... kayaknya dicekik, tapi kok HC nya tinggi banget?? :shrug: :shrug:
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baleno udh injeksi oom...........
iya nih bingung jg sy, co sama hc nya kok tinggi gtu yah :e-think: :e-think:
ga ngerti ane, justru konsumsi bbm kmaren2 malah boros loh :e-wall:
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btw................
klo ga salah dulu pernah ada yg posting mengenai batasan2 parameter emisi antara euro1-2-3 dst, tp di mana yah?? ane cari ga ketemu2 :ungg: :ungg:
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doq wrote:baleno udh injeksi oom...........
iya nih bingung jg sy, co sama hc nya kok tinggi gtu yah :e-think: :e-think:
ga ngerti ane, justru konsumsi bbm kmaren2 malah boros loh :e-wall:
Wah maap om doq... :big_peace: kalo gitu.... wah tinggi banget tuh polusinya oom... no offense ya...
Aku agak lupa, kalo untuk injeksi, maksimalnya HC 150ppm apa berapa yaa?CMIIW..

Kayaknya kudu bebersih kerak karbon sama stel ulang injeksinya oom (masih open loop kan?)
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doq wrote:btw................
klo ga salah dulu pernah ada yg posting mengenai batasan2 parameter emisi antara euro1-2-3 dst, tp di mana yah?? ane cari ga ketemu2 :ungg: :ungg:
kayakna ada di pejwan, om.. :big_peace:
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VanzMatic wrote:
doq wrote:baleno udh injeksi oom...........
iya nih bingung jg sy, co sama hc nya kok tinggi gtu yah :e-think: :e-think:
ga ngerti ane, justru konsumsi bbm kmaren2 malah boros loh :e-wall:
Wah maap om doq... :big_peace: kalo gitu.... wah tinggi banget tuh polusinya oom... no offense ya...
Aku agak lupa, kalo untuk injeksi, maksimalnya HC 150ppm apa berapa yaa?CMIIW..

Kayaknya kudu bebersih kerak karbon sama stel ulang injeksinya oom (masih open loop kan?)
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no offense2 an oom lahhhh mank nya bola?? :upss: :upss: :big_weee:
emank klo sy cium di ujung knalpot, sangat menusuk idung dan bikin perih sih..........
padahal penyetelan co ini sy kerjain waktu abis ganti oli sama stel klep segala lho... :e-think: :e-think:
apa jangan2 karena AF nya kotor yah??
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VanzMatic wrote:
doq wrote:btw................
klo ga salah dulu pernah ada yg posting mengenai batasan2 parameter emisi antara euro1-2-3 dst, tp di mana yah?? ane cari ga ketemu2 :ungg: :ungg:
kayakna ada di pejwan, om.. :big_peace:
bukan yg itu oom, dulu ada yg posting kok soal besaran emisi antara euro1-2-3 dst tp entah dmana :ungg: :ungg:
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doq wrote: no offense2 an oom lahhhh mank nya bola?? :upss: :upss: :big_weee:
emank klo sy cium di ujung knalpot, sangat menusuk idung dan bikin perih sih..........
padahal penyetelan co ini sy kerjain waktu abis ganti oli sama stel klep segala lho... :e-think: :e-think:
apa jangan2 karena AF nya kotor yah??
Yang ane bold om, bukti kuat kalo HC nya ketinggian om, apalagi untuk ukuran mobil injeksi open loop... Bensin mentah nya kebanyakan tuh om, CMIIW lo ya... Mana nih meneer imsus pakar kita?? :e-think:
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yup........dr situ sebener nya udah ketahuan klo pasokan bbm banyak, tapi kok lambda nya malah lean yah? :ungg: :ungg:
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hmmm.............soal nya beberapa waktu yg lalu, pernah setel CO jg dan keluaran emisi nya ga seperti sekarang ini meneer :e-think: :e-think:
justru waktu itu hasil pembacaan nya terbilang sangat bagus utk ukuran mobil tahun lama :e-snooty: :shrug: :e-think: :shrug: :e-snooty: :ungg: klo ga salah sy pernah posting di SM..........
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VanzMatic wrote:
doq wrote: no offense2 an oom lahhhh mank nya bola?? :upss: :upss: :big_weee:
emank klo sy cium di ujung knalpot, sangat menusuk idung dan bikin perih sih..........
padahal penyetelan co ini sy kerjain waktu abis ganti oli sama stel klep segala lho... :e-think: :e-think:
apa jangan2 karena AF nya kotor yah??
Yang ane bold om, bukti kuat kalo HC nya ketinggian om, apalagi untuk ukuran mobil injeksi open loop... Bensin mentah nya kebanyakan tuh om, CMIIW lo ya... Mana nih meneer imsus pakar kita?? :e-think:
hwaduh..., kemaren sudah saya reply semua, tapi hari ini log in, jadi ilang semua :e-wall:
mungkin gara-gara migrasi server :e-think:

tar deh, diingat-ingat lagi dan ditulis ulang.... :upss:
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imsus2c wrote:
VanzMatic wrote:
doq wrote: no offense2 an oom lahhhh mank nya bola?? :upss: :upss: :big_weee:
emank klo sy cium di ujung knalpot, sangat menusuk idung dan bikin perih sih..........
padahal penyetelan co ini sy kerjain waktu abis ganti oli sama stel klep segala lho... :e-think: :e-think:
apa jangan2 karena AF nya kotor yah??
Yang ane bold om, bukti kuat kalo HC nya ketinggian om, apalagi untuk ukuran mobil injeksi open loop... Bensin mentah nya kebanyakan tuh om, CMIIW lo ya... Mana nih meneer imsus pakar kita?? :e-think:
hwaduh..., kemaren sudah saya reply semua, tapi hari ini log in, jadi ilang semua :e-wall:
mungkin gara-gara migrasi server :e-think:

tar deh, diingat-ingat lagi dan ditulis ulang.... :upss:
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yg ane tulis diatas terakhir itu lg bales postingan meneer imsus soal "beberapa mobil lama yg memang setelan optimal nya pada kisaran emisi segitu" :ungg: :ungg:
jadi keliatan nya ky lg ngobrol sendiri :big_slap: :big_slap:
mungkin ini yg disebut2 sebagai "time paradox" ya?? hehehehehe :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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VanzMatic wrote:
imsus2c wrote:
VanzMatic wrote:Sundul ah sunduuulll......

Berikut hasil tes emisi AvG AT kuw...

(berhubung nge-add attachment nya ngga bisa pas 800x600 pixels, ya udah aku salin aja)

CO : 0.00%
CO2 : 12.7%
HC : 0043 ppm
O2 : 3.21%
Lambda : 1,174

Bagaimana tuh, agan2...?
:big_peace:
rasanya AFR kok agak/terlalu lean ya...? :e-think:
apalagi emisi O2-nya diatas 3%
coba cek exhaust-nya juga :e-think:

kalo keterusan lean, takutnya mesin kepanasan... kalo pas ganti/cek busi, sekalian liatin pemantiknya, kalo warnanya putih/berkerak putih, berarti memang terlalu lean/kepanasan, atau businya memang ga cocok

btw, odo sudah jalan berapa?
Odo baru 4.806 selama 7 bulan ini oom... :oops: untuk busi, ane juga liatin, sebelum dibersihin ama mekanik, ke 4 nya berwarna merah bata oom...

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Kira2 sabtu pekan lalu tgl 6, ane pakai Avg nya agak lamaan di siang hari. Ane isi BioPerta full, setelah sblmnya campuran, Biopremium 50rb, BioPerta 50rb. Kok pas sabtu kemaren nglitiknya parah ya..? Apa karena analisis lean by om imsus memang benar adanya..? ane udah buat janji buat servis berkala km10rb ke Toyota Astrido Pd Gede. Kira2 saya kudu bilang apa yaa yang jitu, agar masalah ini solved..? Duh, mana mau buat jemput en anter bokap, trus mau buat ke Tangerang, dan rencana mau dipakai mudik pula...

Tolong om2 dan teman2 SM.. Kalau memang Lean, bukankah ECU VVT-i ini 'katanya' ngga bisa diutak atik lagi setelannya? Apa bener...? Lantas kira2 yang harus saya noticed di beRes besok sabtu tgl 13, apa aja yaa..? ngomong ama Pak Fauzi sbg SA nya, apa ya?

Oiya, odometer juga menunjukkan km6909. Senin sampe jumat hanya manasin 10 menitan.

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keliatan nya ngelitik kaarena banyak deposit karbon oom, mobil lg jarang di pake khan? udah gitu pake (campuran) premium pula :e-think:
saran ane sih coba italian tune up aja dulu buat bersihin karbon nya
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Avanza 1.3 a/t penyakit nglitiknya ada di busi om. Cek ke bengkel utk bersihin businya deh dijamin maknyus lagi abis itu
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