New 2009 Mercedes E Class (W212)

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bukannya merc hobby di supercharger(kompressor)...
btw, di indo kalo pake kompressor or turbo gitu, pajak nya tetep hitung kapasitas isi silinder nya aja yah?
atpm better ambil celah begini ya, misal 1.4tfsi gitu, kalo bisa dapet pajak <1500cc..?
juga yg kemarin rotary itu, apa dihitung isi silindernya <1500cc?
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um,....
bagus...
bole tau,dr mana cari gambar itu???
gambar yang di depan kurang jelas..
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soal mesin dengan teknologi2 baru seperti di audi atau bmw emang bagus2, tapi merc kan selalu lebih konservatif. forced induction dimana2 menambah beban tinggi ke mesin, ujung2nya reliability turun, padahal mereka kan lagi mau perbaiki image.
audi dan vw PD pumpe duse atau TFSI rasanya lebih logis dibanding twin turbo bmw walau reliability belum teruji.

untuk turbo dan disel merc punya pengalaman panjang dan kuat di commercial dan passenger car, jadi mereka tau persis soal reliability. bmw kan baru2 aja bikin turbo kecuali di 2002Ti.
kompressor /supercharger memang cukup bagus, pakenya eaton, tapi boros2 jg kalo digeber. soal power ya no substitute for cubic inches lah.
lagi2 kemaren2 merc terbawa horsepower race vs bmw, jadi berlebihan, dan lagi amg udah inhouse jadi gampang bikin seri amg buat tiap2 lineup (C55, S65 dsb). ujung2nya w221 line up standarnya S300, balik lagi ke W126 300SE :D :D hehe
saya rasa sih mereka belajar dari pengalaman 98-05 dan kembali ke pakem lama lagi.
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boilers wrote:Yang saya sayangkan dari MB sih kenapa sampai sekarang belum ikut mengaplikasikan Direct Injection pada mesin V6 (M272) & V8 (M273)-nya yah ?meski sudah DOHC & variable valve timing, tapi mesin-mesin ini sepertinya sudah mulai ketinggalan dibanding mesin turbo baru (3.0 & 4.4) dari BMW. Mesin 4 cylinder (M271) juga menurut saya kurang ok yah, meski memang cukup halus, tapi sepertinya belum sebaik Audi 2.0L TFSI. Dengar2 sih ke depannya bakal diganti dengan Turbo juga, tapi entah ya, ada yang bisa konfirm ?
MB sekarang udah keluarin gasoline direct injection di mesin V6 3.5 l nya
Yg pake pertama C class di C350 CGI :mrgreen:
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^^ Oh iya, lupa, ada CGI yah. Tapi yg pertama sepertinya di CLS350 CGI ya :D

Tapi kalo gitu kenapa SLK facelift & SL Facelift bukan pakai 350 CGI, tapi pakai versi 350 yang lain (>300 ps), hehe, bingung kadang2 sama MB, banyak bgt versi mesinnya... Entah nih nanti new E pakai 350 CGI atau versi 350 yang ada di SLK/SL facelift.
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boilers wrote:^^ Oh iya, lupa, ada CGI yah. Tapi yg pertama sepertinya di CLS350 CGI ya :D

Tapi kalo gitu kenapa SLK facelift & SL Facelift bukan pakai 350 CGI, tapi pakai versi 350 yang lain (>300 ps), hehe, bingung kadang2 sama MB, banyak bgt versi mesinnya... Entah nih nanti new E pakai 350 CGI atau versi 350 yang ada di SLK/SL facelift.
Oh CLS ya, hehehe...kirain new C class :thanks:
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Jadi mendingan S atau ambil E?


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C class aja, ga mampu klo sampe E ato S.. :big_peace:
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Re: New 2009 Mercedes E Class (W212)

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udah nyoba yang C pak...

impresinya..

mendingan pilih camry 3.5Q entah kenapa.......

(mungkin karena dapet kenyamanan yang saya bilang sangat setara, camry lebih low profile dan lebih 'mudah' segala hal...) - meskipun ternyata MB C lebih irit.

...........dan gosipnya akan segera menjadi taksi.......................
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AD74YA wrote:...........dan gosipnya akan segera menjadi taksi.......................
srius neh???!!! :off_no:
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Masa iya? Berani banget kalau sampai armada taksi beli E-class. Lagian...Kapan break evennya tuh kalau E-class jadi taksi?
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Mungkin maksudnya bro AD74YA itu C class, bukan E Class :mrgreen:
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Berani lah, kan perusahaan taxi nggak bayar bea masuk, plus tarifnya pasti dibedain. :mrgreen:
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mobil gua E-class w124 dah jadi taksi tuh..cibubur-slipi-sunter-pondok klapa-cibubur :D :D
w211 dah lama jadi taksi kok di eropa, gua ke aberdeen taon lalu banyak bgt di bandara.
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Kalau di eropa sih ngga aneh kalau Mercedes jadi taksi, karena memang ini mobil salah satu kebanggan orang eropa. Cuma itu tuh, kalau di Indo kan mahal banget dan man...walaupun armada taksi beli Mercedes E-class tidak kena bea masuk, tetap aja gw masih berpikir kapan bisa break evennya yah? Mungkin tarifnya bisa 2 kali lipat dari taksi umumnya dan kayanya blue bird group taksi yang beli yah?
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Keren banget nih E-class W212... Menurut gw sih tampilan exteriornya baik depan dan belakang almost perfect. Berapaan yah kira kira harganya di Indo, apalagi exchange rate kita lemah banget akhir akhir ini.
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Thio wrote:Keren banget nih E-class W212... Menurut gw sih tampilan exteriornya baik depan dan belakang almost perfect. Berapaan yah kira kira harganya di Indo, apalagi exchange rate kita lemah banget akhir akhir ini.
gw rasa di sini paling murah pun 800 juta... :frm_bang_head:
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Kalo ma jadi taksi mungkin juga E Class W211, sekalian habisin stock, seperti jaman C Class W203 lalu. Sebelum keluar model baru, model lamanya jadi taksi semua.
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ga tau napa gw skr jadi lebi suka mercy daripada BMW
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satyr wrote:ga tau napa gw skr jadi lebi suka mercy daripada BMW
apa karena belakangnya mirip corolla yah, tyr? :mrgreen:
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satyr wrote:ga tau napa gw skr jadi lebi suka mercy daripada BMW
Mungkin karena electrical mercy lebih nggak rewel ya om satyr? :mrgreen:
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apa karena C-Class putih itu yak? :mrgreen:
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bmw e46 FL sih gua suka, manis + ganteng..lampu sennya senyum. ntar dah kalo dah murah..hehe
W204 putih? kemaren sempet sebelahan sih bermacet ria di tol :D :D cakep sayang bintangnya ala 560SL di grill.
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iwang wrote:bmw e46 FL sih gua suka, manis + ganteng..lampu sennya senyum. ntar dah kalo dah murah..hehe
W204 putih? kemaren sempet sebelahan sih bermacet ria di tol :D :D cakep sayang bintangnya ala 560SL di grill.
hehehe....makanya beli yg tipe elegance aja bro, masih nonjol tuh bintangnya. Kalo Avantgarde emang udah tiduran :mrgreen:
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iye om ntar kalo pohon duitnya dah berbuah..:D :D gua beli dah